civic13
01-01-2006, 07:11 PM
I constantly hear other brand drivers bagging out hondas, especially nissan drivers and the v8 drivers, calling them econobox grocery getters :thumbdwn: BUT, if you think about it if a car has twice the torque BUT also twice the weight in comparision to our "grocery getters" they would be equal in power. well according to physics lol :D
My point being that if we decrease our weight we should increase power duh :rolleyes:, so much so that if we half our weight we would double our power output, cut a qurater of our weight increase power by 50% etc. Well after surfing the net i came across some surprising info, but i wasn't so sure if it was in fact true or even practical so i came on here to ask it to you guys
well according to some website, this is what worries me about its reliablity, that 1 pound of aluminium used in cars weighs 2 pounds of steel used in cars. So far it doesnt sound too farfetched but then it also said that:
28% of the vehicle's mass is from the chassis
28% of the vehicle's mass is from the powertrain
27% of the vehicle's mass is from the body-in-white
thats 83% of the vehicles mass made from steel
I was wondering if it was practical to convert some of those parts from steel to aluminium, obviously the chassis would be out of the question unless your gonna rip apart the car and create 1 all over again but how about the body-in-white and powertrain?
now the price question comes, I know with enough money anything can be done but compare this to a custom turbo plus custom internals etc which would set you back round 10k+ for a outcome of about a little below double your initial power output. But with that 10K could you replace the powertrain and/or body-in-white with aluminium. If both can be done that would decrease you vehicle's weight by 28%, which in the end increase your power by approx 50%, sure its not as much as that custom turbo would give you but save up later and then add the custom turbo and you got urself one fast "grocery getter" :eek:. Imagine the possibility, a 650kg crx with 450HP :thumbsup: but time for your input if its possible
My point being that if we decrease our weight we should increase power duh :rolleyes:, so much so that if we half our weight we would double our power output, cut a qurater of our weight increase power by 50% etc. Well after surfing the net i came across some surprising info, but i wasn't so sure if it was in fact true or even practical so i came on here to ask it to you guys
well according to some website, this is what worries me about its reliablity, that 1 pound of aluminium used in cars weighs 2 pounds of steel used in cars. So far it doesnt sound too farfetched but then it also said that:
28% of the vehicle's mass is from the chassis
28% of the vehicle's mass is from the powertrain
27% of the vehicle's mass is from the body-in-white
thats 83% of the vehicles mass made from steel
I was wondering if it was practical to convert some of those parts from steel to aluminium, obviously the chassis would be out of the question unless your gonna rip apart the car and create 1 all over again but how about the body-in-white and powertrain?
now the price question comes, I know with enough money anything can be done but compare this to a custom turbo plus custom internals etc which would set you back round 10k+ for a outcome of about a little below double your initial power output. But with that 10K could you replace the powertrain and/or body-in-white with aluminium. If both can be done that would decrease you vehicle's weight by 28%, which in the end increase your power by approx 50%, sure its not as much as that custom turbo would give you but save up later and then add the custom turbo and you got urself one fast "grocery getter" :eek:. Imagine the possibility, a 650kg crx with 450HP :thumbsup: but time for your input if its possible