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VTEC16
02-04-2004, 06:00 PM
Well this should be an interesting one! This is the first formula one race at the brand spanking new Bahrain racing complex!

Being in the middle of the desert, the main issues are the heat (which at the moment isnt soo bad) and the sand.

The sand could have huge effects, as it could drastically reduce the grip while increasing the wear on the tyres! It may also play havock if injested into engines or bearings etc etc.

The teams are also yet to test here, so, unlike the other tracks, the teams will be starting from scratch (ok - truth is they can pretty much replicate the track without setting foot at the circuit....but not exactly...so it should still be very interesting).

Sessions

Friday 02 Apr 2004

11:00 - 12:00 Practice 1 (starts 6pm aust time)

14:00 - 15:00 Practice 2 (starts 9pm aust time)

Saturday 03 Apr 2004

09:00 - 09:45 Practice 1 (starts 4pm aust time)

10:15 - 11:00 Practice 2 (starts 5.15pm aust time)

13:00 Pre-Qual (starts 8pm aust time)

14:00 Qualifying (starts 9pm aust time)

Sunday 04 Apr 2004

14:30 Race (starts 9.30pm aust time)


All sessions can be viewed live at www.f1.com

Enjoy guys....hope BAR can get both cars to finish in the points....hopefully another podium! We should have a huge advantage having Anthony Davidson in the third car in practice (being the top team allowed this privelege).

VTEC16
02-04-2004, 06:00 PM
Friday Practice 1


Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:32.158

2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:32.651

3 35 Anthony Davidson BAR-Honda 1:32.958

4 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:33.027

5 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:33.898

6 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.023

7 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:34.289

8 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:34.488

9 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.603

10 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:34.610

11 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:34.619

12 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:34.796

13 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:34.810

14 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:34.872

15 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:34.967

16 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:35.388

17 39 Timo Glock Jordan-Ford 1:35.760

18 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:35.905

19 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:35.981

20 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:36.359

21 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:36.645

22 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:37.049

23 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:37.347

24 37 Bjorn Wirdheim Jaguar-Cosworth 1:37.443

25 40 Bas Leinders Minardi-Cosworth 1:37.792


....again sato is slow :thumbsdown:

....davidson was on top (or near it) the whole way!.....got a few laps in there too :thumbsup:

...button wasnt too far behind :thumbsup:

VTEC16
03-04-2004, 12:14 PM
Friday Practice 2

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:31.450

2 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:31.451

3 35 Anthony Davidson BAR-Honda 1:31.488

4 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:31.732

5 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:31.789

6 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:31.842

7 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:31.879

8 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:32.041

9 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:32.234

10 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:32.335

11 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.495

12 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:32.680

13 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:32.708

14 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:32.761

15 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:33.031

16 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:33.049

17 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:33.061

18 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:33.437

19 39 Timo Glock Jordan-Ford 1:33.695

20 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.054

21 37 Bjorn Wirdheim Jaguar-Cosworth 1:34.317

22 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.791

23 40 Bas Leinders Minardi-Cosworth 1:36.248

24 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:40.573

25 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes



In a press conference:

Question: (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Juan Pablo, from what we have seen do you think it can be a race between Ferrari and Williams this weekend?
Juan Pablo Montoya: Well, you have got to say that a lot of Michelin teams have been quite strong here - BAR have been quite strong, McLaren have been strong too - so we will see....

BAR is being recognised :thumbsup: ...hope we can get another podium this w/e!

VTEC16
03-04-2004, 05:04 PM
Saturday Practive 2

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:30.062

2 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:30.121

3 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:30.545

4 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:30.616

5 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:30.651

6 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.003

7 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:31.090

8 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.341

9 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:31.485

10 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:31.644

11 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:31.692

12 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:31.962

13 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:32.183

14 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:32.210

15 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:32.276

16 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:33.404

17 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:33.474

18 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:33.863

19 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:35.696

20 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas


Button on top!!! This is gonna be an exciting race! guys? :roll: anyone?

Calls up mom and talks about F1

[self esteem]Rises[/self esteem]

LUD02C
03-04-2004, 06:20 PM
I think you will find that the times will drop alot during the race!
Remember the 1 engine rule...
Being at a track that they have never been to before, they would be taking it easy!

I think Ferrari pushed hard on Friday and backed off on saturday!
And i think alot of teams either went hard on friday and soft saturday or vise versa!

Anthony Davidson is a good driver, i hope Sato gets booted and he takes the drive for the rest of the year!

Qualifying will be interesting to see, i wish Australia showed it, but TEN being cockheads they won't :x

I honestly think that it might be a Ferrari 1-2 because of the reliability factor!
Kimi will be 3rd where as Juan and Alonso will have blown engines!

But it is F1 and anything can happen!
Should be a good, interesting race!

joneblaze
03-04-2004, 06:43 PM
My mate got flown there by Rove Live..... bastard... he's on his way there now..... lol

LUD02C
03-04-2004, 06:51 PM
My mate got flown there by Rove Live..... bastard... he's on his way there now..... lol

Please do not mention ROVE in motorsport...
Rove isn't funny! Just annoying!

joneblaze
03-04-2004, 06:53 PM
Rove IS funny. Ray Romano is annoying. :)

LUD02C
03-04-2004, 06:54 PM
Rove IS funny. Ray Romano is annoying. :)

Jon, Let's debate about this in "The Lounge" lol
Make a thread buddy! :)

LUD02C
04-04-2004, 11:07 AM
Qualifying Results!


1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:30.139

2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:30.530

3 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:30.581

4 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:30.633

5 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:30.827

6 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:30.856

7 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:30.971

8 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:31.686

9 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:31.717

10 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.719

11 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:31.731

12 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:32.332

13 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:32.536

14 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:32.625

15 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:33.506

16 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:34.105

17 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:34.130

18 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.584

19 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:35.787

20 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes

LUD02C
04-04-2004, 11:10 AM
Go Michael...
Ferrari, BMW and BAR both did really well...

Poor Kimi starting from back row :( Guy can't get a break...
He should go to another team!

Also, Alonso is way back to!
But he usually goes hard at the start and recovers about 12 positions!

VTEC16
04-04-2004, 12:45 PM
Anthony Davidson is a good driver, i hope Sato gets booted and he takes the drive for the rest of the year!
:thumbsup:


Rove IS funny. Ray Romano is annoying. :)
:thumbsup:


Go Michael...
Ferrari, BMW and BAR both did really well...

Poor Kimi starting from back row :( Guy can't get a break...
He should go to another team!

Also, Alonso is way back to!
But he usually goes hard at the start and recovers about 12 positions!

Yeh its quite funny seeing the grid:
Ferraris fill the front row, Williams both in the second row and BAR holds out the third row!

I too feel bad for the iceman…..last year I would have said he is still a chance for this race….but in the current uncompetitive car, id say he will struggle to get any meaningful points without serious attrition.

From www.f1live.com: Fernando Alonso missed the apex of the first corner of his qualifying lap, owing to a currently-unidentified brake problem. In spite of a relatively competitive second sector, he had already lost almost a second, and the lap was definitively spoiled when he ran wide in turn 14. He will start from seventeenth position.

….we’ll see wot alonso can do…

I cant decide whether to watch the live timing….and then watch the delayed race….or just watch the delayed race without spoiling it by watching the timing…..dilemmas dilemmas….

LUD02C
04-04-2004, 12:49 PM
I was thinking about watching the timing!
But i got 2mora off work, and i thought new track and i would rather watch it more exciting!

VTEC16
04-04-2004, 01:13 PM
yeh true....but then it would suck if JB and TS crashed into eachother in the first corner.....at least the live timing kinda gives you warning.....otherwise i get angry :evil:

...but your probably right.....got work to do for uni anyway...

LUD02C
04-04-2004, 01:27 PM
yeh true....but then it would suck if JB and TS crashed into eachother in the first corner.....at least the live timing kinda gives you warning.....otherwise i get angry :evil:

...but your probably right.....got work to do for uni anyway...

WORD!
Can't wait to watch it...

Toby
05-04-2004, 01:23 AM
1st Schumacher

2nd Barrichello

3rd Button

EuroAccord13
05-04-2004, 01:50 AM
Final Standings After Race

1. Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari 1hr 28min 34.875sec
2. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari at 1.367sec
3. Jenson Button (GBR) BAR-Honda 26.687
4. Jarno Trulli (ITA) Renault 32.214
5. Takuma Sato (JPN) BAR-Honda 52.460
6. Fernando Alonso (SPA) Renault 53.156
7. Ralf Schumacher (GER) Williams-BMW 58.155
8. Mark Webber (AUS) Jaguar-Cosworth one lap
9. Olivier Panis (FRA) Toyota one lap
10. Cristiano Da Matta (BRA) Toyota one lap
11. Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA) Sauber-Petronas one lap
12. Felipe Massa (BRA) Sauber-Petronas one lap
13. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) Williams-BMW one lap
14. Christian Klien (AUT) Jaguar-Cosworth one lap
15. Nick Heidfeld (GER) Jordan one lap
16. Giorgio Pantano (ITA) Jordan two laps
17. Gianmaria Bruni (ITA) Minardi five laps




Latest Points Standings


OVERALL RESULTS
Drivers
1. Michael Schumacher (GER) 30pts
2. Rubens Barrichello (BRA) 21
3. Jenson Button (GBR) 15
4. Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) 12
5. Fernando Alonso (SPA) 11
6. Jarno Trulli (ITA) 11
7. Ralf Schumacher (GER) 7
8. Takuma Sato (JPN) 4
9. David Coulthard (GBR) 4
10. Felipe Massa (BRA) 1
11. Mark Webber (AUS) 1


Constructors standings
1. Ferrari 51pts
2. Renault 22
3. Williams-BMW 19
4. BAR-Honda 19
5. McLaren-Mercedes 4
6. Jaguar-Cosworth 1
7. Sauber-Petronas 1

bizee_1
05-04-2004, 01:54 AM
Fantastic result ! but there is a long way to go.

Might add Sato drove :thumbsup:

VTEC16
05-04-2004, 02:07 AM
That was an awesome race! Despite the red blurrs, the race was very close....heaps of overtaking!!

The way Sato fended off alonso....and just generally the way he drove was awesome! He has proven himself to be very quick and consistent under pressure.....if he hadnt of damaged his front wing he may have had a very close battle with his teamate! He was excellent in both attacking and defensive driving :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Then of course is jenson!...his first two podiums have come at once! He drove an excellent race too.....he was just solid :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

A couple of things i thought id mention-

firstly, our pit stops were slow. It didnt look like we were fueling the whole time....they were slow (by 1-2 seconds). Hopefully the team will work on that a little.

Also, that was the second time the little peice on top of sato's rear wing has come loose! ....wouldnt the team have solved that problem by now??

All in all a great race from BAR team....but the best thing is that there should still be some improvement left....we are (pretty much) on equal terms with renault and williams....obviously ferrari is too far ahead (or was that bridgestone???) ......at this rate we could claim second place outright....this should be a very interesting season yet!!!

cheers,

mike.

EuroAccord13
05-04-2004, 02:29 AM
I reckon BAR Honda has a real chance to claim third place in the Constructors' Points standing...

CHEERS
Nick

vti-2
05-04-2004, 11:05 AM
Go BAR Honda you good thing! :D

LUD02C
05-04-2004, 11:08 AM
Well done to BAR
Fast and reliable!

Christian Klien got my driver of the race!
Took all the chances and was pushing Kimi

Track was great.
Nice and wide, smooth but needs abit more rubber on it...

Well done to michael and rubens!
Ferrari are creating history!

Watching the head guy from michelin scratching his head was GOLD

crx2gen
05-04-2004, 02:23 PM
Well done to BAR, very solid race. And despite the fact I think he's an absolute wanker, Montoya was unlucky that his gearbox started to play up when he was virtually assured of 3rd.

Javed
05-04-2004, 02:55 PM
Hi all. Im not a BAR Honda fan first up, but I aways like to see the underdogs pull up. I am very annoyed at what happened to Montoya, disappointing yet again, the frustration of losing the podium towards the end of the race is a shocker, hopefully Juan will get up there next race. As for Klein, yeah he did keep Kimi occupied but his inexperience really showed in his line, he tried the inside too much hence pushing too deep, also the lack of acceleration of the Jaguar out of the corners in contrast to the mclaren really showed. I was impressed with te track and thought it was well designed. The bloody ferrari onslaught continues yet again hey.... its so early in the season yet the gap is becoming large, im just hoping schumacher's car cathes on fire like it did last season or something. hehehehe :twisted:

pornstar
05-04-2004, 06:41 PM
kinda like sato in malaysia, almost a 5th and then engine cooked :(

go BAR, i think BAR have enough to take 2nd overall constructors

Marz
06-04-2004, 11:28 AM
Honda's made a good start to 2004 F1 season.
Let's not get carried away tho, still a LOONG way to go before we start talkin about constructor's championship points etc..

As for McLaren - big big issues.
I wonder what JPM is thinking!

LUD02C
06-04-2004, 01:33 PM
Juan would be thinking FUK! I hope they fix the stupid car!
But the season is young!

I hope Ralf gets suspended for a while!
He moves in the last 2 GP’s were fuking ridiculous

Marz
08-04-2004, 12:14 PM
Exactly..hence the reason why Honda aren't getting too carried away.
McLaren will be amongst the top 3 again this year.
Champions always shine thru..