Cold Air Intake

[Mitch M]

I want to get a POD, however, if i just stick it in its going to be sucking hot air and i will lose power [not that it gives you large gains but i would rather a small gain or cut even than lose].

SO, now to my question, how can i get my POD sucking cool air without risking water lock when i drive it in the rain. Is there somewhere i can route it without water attacking it? Would a heat shield do?

Thanks in advance.

[btw i have an EG Civic Si sedan]

[SPEEDCORE]

How about mounting a pod inside your current airbox ala old EK Mugen airbox?.... pipe some cool air to the airbox and your done.

I'll leave out the replacemnet panel filter argument because you stated you wanted a POD

[Mitch M]

How about mounting a pod inside your current airbox ala old EK Mugen airbox?.... pipe some cool air to the airbox and your done.

I'll leave out the replacemnet panel filter argument because you stated you wanted a POD

have a panel at the moment ... bought it due to the inablility to route cold air for the POD

i don't think it will suck enough being stuffed into the current air box ...

[fusion_VTi]

you could mount ur pod behind your front bar if you wanted to be a bit tricky, but the most common way is to just mount your pod and put a custom heat sheild around it then run some cold air pip from under ur front bar up into it..

[SIKCVC]

you could mount ur pod behind your front bar if you wanted to be a bit tricky, but the most common way is to just mount your pod and put a custom heat sheild around it then run some cold air pip from under ur front bar up into it..

He did state he wanted to avoid hydro lock... and belive me it ****s your engine right up.
Its a REALLY good idea to NOT mount the pod behind the bar... just suck air from there.

Also a tip i was given (And this is how i made my "heat sheild"/pod enclosure without realising) CAI's on NA cars should have a larger section of pipe because NA cars suck air in pulses so it needs a section where the air can pool so its not drawing all the way from say behind your front bar.

I acidently did this and now I have the power gains of the pod plus the advantage of CAI without the lag a normal CAI, that draws from behind the bar would encounter.

Without the faggots claiming they dont do shit, I went from my CAI pipe but just with a breather hose from behind the bar, to stock and noticed the difference. only just but it was there. Then when i eclosed my pod correctly using that larger section to alow pooling of air, I notice a decent increase throughout the revs instead of just up high.

And Pods are better than panels the proof speaks for itself... I saw a dyno test recently (on tv of cource) which tested cheap panels... expencive panels and cheap pods too expencive pods... the panel put out(the top line K&N i think) put out like 4hp less at the wheels than no filter and for some unknown reason the Blitzz pod put out 2 more than no filter... i have no idea how though :p

[sr3]

any1 know where can i get cai like aem or injen?
thanks..

[LatinoHatchCrap]

dunt bother this talk about a sri loosing power is giving me s__ts!!

It should be common knowledge by now that a short ram reacts better on an engine which is highly modified. even on an engine which is basically stock a short ram will usually result in better low end and mid range.

I've mentioned before as well that I went from a stock airbox to an apexi intake kit (which is a SRI) and the difference was like night and day. Throttle response has improved and the motor feels more *peaky*. Im talking from my own experience with this kit however.

Personally the best you can do is either get a short ram kit and build a shield. Or buy a mugen copy airbox :thumbsup:

[SPEEDCORE]

dunt bother this talk about a sri loosing power is giving me s__ts!!


Ok this is just my point of view... might be theoretically right or wrong but just my 2 cents......

Ok.... if we are talking dyno runs and comparing power figures on the dyno....... if this was the type of competing that I did I would most def go with a pod/sri. Engine bay temps with an open bonnet and not very long constant high rpm operation would make the SRI work best, you can work out why.......

Now if you are into circuit racing...., contant high RPM operation, high under bonnet temps etc etc. I PERSONALLY would shy away from a SRI and stick with a nice CAI with replacement panel filter or even a pod in a box with cold air piping.

Opinions?

[Setanta]

Common knowledge my arse - have a look at all the current competitive race cars and try and spot a SRI.

SRI = heat into engine = loss of density = loss in power.

You can't argue with physics.

CAI = better and most good CAIs come with a bypass valve

Best option = sealed box with SRI inside.

[**Ghost**]

my opinion is that we shoudl stop usuing so many acronymns : P wtf is SRI? Student REprsentative Initiative? :P hahaha sorry i'm kinda new at this

hey can u guys recommend ne good brand kits that are CAI with pod in the airbox? and which is better neway pod or filter? in the box i mean...

[Setanta]

BTW - in real life (not on a dyno) I ran a SRI and lost time on the track with a NA twin-carb motor compared to running a sealed box that was fed with a CAI.

Consistantly lost time until I went back to the original time.

Dynos mean squat - it's controlled circumstances.

[SPEEDCORE]

Dynos mean squat - it's controlled circumstances.

There ya go now your thinking like me!!!! :thumbsup:

Then again.... they are not... because if they where controlled there would not be discreptancies between dynos!

But yer.... refer back to my previous post.... it depends what your intentions are... chasing numbers on the dyno.... or chasing consistancy of power at the track.

[Nuttz]

when i put my pod i did SRI( Short Ram Intake) I lost bottom end but mid and top felt a little bit better. I still gotta make my heat sheild and see if that helps

[**Ghost**]

nah screw the dyno... i want performance outta my driveway : P i dunno... somoene offerred to sell me a ARC airbox, with panel filter i think... its CAI...

kinda wanted to get it...

[SPEEDCORE]

ARC is pretty much a SRI but with a panel filter instead of pod.... still sucks in hot air

[A'PEXi]

lol sikcvc didnt really understand your post
"so it needs a section where the air can pool so its not drawing all the way from say behind your front bar. "

??

[mike_cheung]

sorry guys im a newbie
wats a CAI and SRI???
like wats the diff

[KB]

CAI = Cold Air Induction
SRI = Short Ram Intake

Why do I hear people saying that they gonna shove a pod in thier engine bay and buy a heat shield for it and all will be well. A heat shield is the most pointless piece of crap ever invented. A heat shield does practically nothing. After installing one, is it gonna magically turn the air in the engine bay ice cold?....... ummmmmm no. Having A Pod in ur engine bay, its gonna suck hot air in regardless of what u do.

For Best Results either replace ur stadard panel filter with a high flow one then run some piping to the front of your car. Or rip out ur existing air box and resonator and run some piping from ur stock intake tube down through the resonator hole and locate ur pod down there.

For My car i ran Bunnings :P 65mm PVC pipe from the stock intake pipe down the resonator hole and put the pod down there. I get better midrange now and a better induction noise. And for the grand total of 17$ its still going strong. And no it hasn't melted even after long driving on a hot day.

If ur worried about water getting in ur engine just weigh up the pros and cons. Ur pretty much Ok unless u drive into the ocean and live under the water in harmony with various sea creatures. Then U might fkkk ur car up.

My Thoughts
Kyle

[EuroAccord13]

Bottomline is CAI will yield the best gains and efficiency, but at a slight loss in low end... :)

I refer you to this example of a CAI kit :)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4691


CHEERS
Nick

[CAT_SPEW]

Nice :D
What that set you back, can you give me the site where you bought it?

[ToF]

Is there CAI kits out there that have a feature to prevent water from being sucked in, like EuroAccord13 kit has that bra or whatever?? :S

[KB]

I though that filters had a oil coating on them for that reason... i thought oil on the filter deflects the water... Sorta like waxing a car....

Or I could be entirly wrong...... again.

[bennjamin]

I though that filters had a oil coating on them for that reason... i thought oil on the filter deflects the water... Sorta like waxing a car....

Or I could be entirly wrong...... again.

A light oil layer is upon every foam filter - to "grab" the majority of smaller particles, further filtering the air going in. . . . once you clean a foam element - you should also re-oil it lightly too!

[mike_cheung]

how do you re oil?

[EuroAccord13]

Nice :D
What that set you back, can you give me the site where you bought it?

Hi;

I got Rocket Industries to order in via air freight for me, the kit is AUD$380 including Tax and GST and cost nothing for freight as it will come with other orders they have(Around 6-8 weeks delivery). I asked for air freight which costs AUD$100(less than 2 weeks)...

I've spoken to them and they said they can do something for group buys..

CHEERS
Nick