how many Kms (timing belt)

[coolson]

Hi all,

I am new to this forum. I just got one question. How kms a 1998 honda civic vti-r should change a timing belt?

Cheers!

[Andrew21]

Meant to be changed every 100,000kms mate... so if ur car is approaching 100+xxx kms or just over that mark..

1. If you dont know if it has been changed or not.. well ur taking a risk.. but sooner or later i'd change it..

[coolson]

Thanks Andrew,

I was going to buy a second hand civic vti-r that has done 115000, they don't have any history that has the timing changed. that's 15000kms overdone! How much of the cost am I looking at on changing it?

Thanks!

[Andrew21]

do a search and you will find infomation on this...

depends where you go.. roughly between $300-400 i'd say...

Like i said , its a risk, there's plently of people who havnt change it 160,000kms +....
but there running a risk .. and one day its gonna go bang !

Just bargain the price down to compesate $$$ changing the belt ;)

[EuroDude]

I didnt change mine until 200,000km and yeah it was a risk especially they way I drove the car lol. Cost me around $350

Make sure you get a Genuine Honda Belt since its a vital part. A friend installed a cheap aftermarket one and it snapped after 15,000km.

[bennjamin]

I didnt change mine until 200,000km and yeah it was a risk especially they way I drove the car lol. Cost me around $350

Make sure you get a Genuine Honda Belt since its a vital part. A friend installed a cheap aftermarket one and it snapped after 15,000km.

you are supposed to change every 100,000kms ~ earlier the better obviously.

Genuine is best ~ i doubt tho your friends cheap one snapped due to just being"cheap" - possibly installed incorrectly (too loose or too tight) or leaky cam seal leaked oil onto it etc)

[EuroDude]

you are supposed to change every 100,000kms ~ earlier the better obviously.

Genuine is best ~ i doubt tho your friends cheap one snapped due to just being"cheap" - possibly installed incorrectly (too loose or too tight) or leaky cam seal leaked oil onto it etc)


Yeah I know I should change it every 100,000 - but I was too lazy :p

My friend (different one) has a Civic reaching 200,000 now, I keep on telling him to change it and not doing so can cause major damage, but meh he doesnt listen... its only a matter of time before the big SNAP.


Some Honda Engines have a safety mechanism incase of a snap, but I doubt the Civic engines have it.

[coolson]

Also wondering, would an old timing belt affect the performance of the car?

[BLKek]

According to the manual it should have been done in 2003 - or 100,000kms which ever comes first...

[lenz]

my local hondacare is $195 so best to goto a known honda mechanic

[coolson]

I just rang up a few different Honda deal in sydney.

Leichhardt
Timing belt (parts and labour) $440
120,000kms Major service $624

Rockdale
Timing belt (parts and labour) $380
120,000kms Major service $650
$45/day replacement car
$1000 all together

Parramatta
Timing belt (parts and labour) $495
120,000kms Major service $705

are the price normal?


One more question.

Actually the car I looked at is the car i want to buy. How can I tell if the VTEC is still working? how many RPM the VTEC will kick in?

Thanks!

[r`Geno]

When you replace the timing belt, ideally you should also replace the water pump at the same time.

$300-400 is what you would expect to pay (parts inclusive).

Regarding VTEC, there are a few conditions that must be met for VTEC.

Namely, the engine must be warm, the oil level should be adequately full, and you need to be in the right gear at the right speed. You'll hear and feel VTEC when it engages, no doubt about it.

[panda[cRx]]

Yeah I know I should change it every 100,000 - but I was too lazy :p

My friend (different one) has a Civic reaching 200,000 now, I keep on telling him to change it and not doing so can cause major damage, but meh he doesnt listen... its only a matter of time before the big SNAP.


Some Honda Engines have a safety mechanism incase of a snap, but I doubt the Civic engines have it.

as previously stated honda recomends every 5 years or 100,000 kms (whichever comes first)

we have had a prelude that came in with snapped belt and caused no damage but in 99% of cases i doubt u'd be that lucky

[jackosimm]

']as previously stated honda recomends every 5 years or 100,000 kms (whichever comes first)

we have had a prelude that came in with snapped belt and caused no damage but in 99% of cases i doubt u'd be that lucky

Should make that 99.99%! Never heard of that in my life, one lucky dude.
As said, if your in doubt get it changed!




Actually the car I looked at is the car i want to buy. How can I tell if the VTEC is still working? how many RPM the VTEC will kick in?


make sure your vtec hose is connected y0! Na lol but seriously, you should be able to identify it on an EK4 :thumbsup:

[mj3610]

what will be the damage if it snaps? mines done 140kms and i dont know if the previous owner changed it or not.

[bennjamin]

if the timing belt snapped on startup it might cause little or no problems - also if the engine is adjust for "clearance" ( that is , the valves do not overlap the piston dome) a timign belt snap would only stall the engine ?

[EuroDude]

The timing belt needs to be replaced or adjusted at regular intervals. If a timing belt breaks, the cam will stop spinning and the piston could hit the open valves.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/camshaft-damage.jpg


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft3.htm

[ingram]

80,000 to 100,000km

[civicCXI]

I did mine at 110k kms. I called lube mobile, but they couldn't open the "bolt" or something so couldn't change the timing belt, so i wen to honda dealer and paid $88 for the belt and around $120 for the labour

[mj3610]

When you replace the timing belt, ideally you should also replace the water pump at the same time.

$300-400 is what you would expect to pay (parts inclusive).

Regarding VTEC, there are a few conditions that must be met for VTEC.

Namely, the engine must be warm, the oil level should be adequately full, and you need to be in the right gear at the right speed. You'll hear and feel VTEC when it engages, no doubt about it.
very correct :) a water pump should always be changed at 100kms also.
p.s sorry for bringing bak old thread :o

[DLO01]

what will be the damage if it snaps? mines done 140kms and i dont know if the previous owner changed it or not.
Lol old thread.

If you timing belt snaps it can cause: damaged Pistons, bent Valves, fracture you valve guides and head damage.

[XQISIT]

On my old 4AGE 16v they timming belt was never changed i bought the car with 115xxks and drove it till 240xxxks without a timming belt change never snapped.

Its all about the seals after a while they start to fail and oil slips through which causes oil leaks :P

[Dylanamus]

VTEC engages at just over 5000rpm in my EF8, so it's probably around the same for your civic. You can definitely hear it, especially in first and second. The sound is more high pitched and raspy than below VTEC sounds...

[panda[cRx]]

I did mine at 110k kms. I called lube mobile, but they couldn't open the "bolt" or something so couldn't change the timing belt, so i wen to honda dealer and paid $88 for the belt and around $120 for the labour

$208 in total for a honda dealer to replace a cam belt?

can u gimme their number coz i wanna know what they are smoking! hahaha usually it'd be another $200 on top of that!

[burma]

like someone has asked earlier, will an unchanged/overdue timing belt be affecting the car's performance, fuel comsumption....etc...

[ECU-MAN]

an old belt, reaching its end of life would be stretched, this will cause slight but unoticable timming difference.

at the end of the day you wont notice anything.