hid in euro

[tiger266]

Hi guys,

I have an 06 lux. Any ideas on where to get replacement for HID bulbs? I think its 4300k now, i prob want to get 6k? anyideas where to get it?

Im kinda new to this light thing, just wandering abt the parking lights. I want it whiter. what bulb should i get and where other than ebay.

[D168]

You can try www.ebay.com

Cheers,
Adrian

[EURO R CL9]

I bought mine from oversea. They are 7000k. To install you HID bulb, you have to remove the front bumper bar, and you need a special tool to remove the screws behind the head lights.

[Banana]

u mean the allen key?

[Ronin 09]

are you sure you want to go up on the kelvins? The 4300K rating is the same brightness as a sunny summer day.
if you go higher, sure it looks cool and blue, but it will strain your eyes as the output is too bright... I had 8500K and after a half hour drive in the country my eyes actually hurt, and they became tired. I didn't know this was related to the HID output until I found out later about the K ratings.
that's why OEM specify 4300 - 4600K as the factory output.
Cheers

[BiLL|z0r]

+ a higher rating doesn't mean better light. There is such a thing as too white. It might look better with 7000k but you have headlights so you can see in the dark, not to blind other drivers and make a fashion statement. Food for thought.

[Xplodin]

hey,

I have HID's (6500K) in my car now and it looks awsum! And on the added side of things it gives me a better seeing distance than i had before. The stupid Yellow Halogens i had (Phillips Diamond Vision). Also to add to that i got flashed once and that was just hitting a Hill and the lights went straight into the other car's eyes. So i cant blame them there. But other than that, have caused no drama's watso ever.

[jamchen]

the lux's 4300k has a really good output.... but sure it doesn't look as cool as the higher k HIDs..
anyway, FYI, u ccan find replacement bulbs for higher k ratings from ebay...and make sure u get D2S ine coz they are designed specifically for projectors... ( correct me if i am wrong)
and wow i didn;t know that change HID bulbs out of the euro luc is that much hassle...

oh also i think u also need a pair of HID harness to enable u to connect aftermarket HID bulbs.. or maybe not :o

[genk-jomblo]

my 2 cents:
ONLY buy HID kit if they offer warranty, I bought 1 set 8000K from ebay and after 4 months one of the bulb was 'game over' and I couldn't get replacement from the seller. then I bought another set for $450 include same 8000k with 1 year warranty (include the labour things as well).

Cheers

[accordoholic]

the higher Ks may look better but when in total darkness, the light leans towards the blue colour and actually makes it not so clear.

Bcoz the human eye is sensitive to white and not so much for the blue or other colours, it's best to keep to what's recommended.

[Xplodin]

I'll have to say, i would never go above 6500K any more than that gets too blue, even 6500K is blue enough. But yeah stick to OEM 4300K or just one step up 5000K

[raz05]

I have 8500k at the moment and u can't see anything when is raining
so i reckon 6000k would be a better option

[Atjo]

I bought 8000K replacement bulb as well for my euro lux. Its D2S replacement bulbs and it cost me A$220 (US$159 + US$18.5 shipping fee) including shipping from http://www.plasmagarage.com (http://www.plasmagarage.com/). You don't need to remove your front bumper, you just need to remove the housing of the lamp and be careful DON'T touch the glass part of the bulb.

Here's the picture of the replacement bulb:
http://www.plasmagarage.com/images/D2S8000K.jpg

Here is the picture before and after using the replacement bulb:
http://plasmagarage.com/images/EuroAccord2004TL8000KD2S.jpg

[Ronin 09]

Some more reading for people who maintain they want to use 80000000000K globes
http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html

[Chris73]

I can't see why you would want to reduce the performance of your headlights and cause more problems for oncoming traffic. Headlights are in the car so that you can see where you are going (increasing to 8000K decreases visibiliy and Raz05 can't see when it is raining)????????

[accordoholic]

I can't see why you would want to reduce the performance of your headlights and cause more problems for oncoming traffic. Headlights are in the car so that you can see where you are going (increasing to 8000K decreases visibiliy and Raz05 can't see when it is raining)????????


It's just not raining....it's simply that you can't see in the dark :cool:

[Atjo]

I can't see why you would want to reduce the performance of your headlights and cause more problems for oncoming traffic. Headlights are in the car so that you can see where you are going (increasing to 8000K decreases visibiliy and Raz05 can't see when it is raining)????????

I agree that 8000K+ HID decreases visibility but usually people use 8000K+ HID mainly for the looks.

[accordoholic]

But if it's only for looks then I have to say that's very irresponsible because it can cause accidents by not able to see properly when driving. Hence why RTA can defect those headlights.

[EuroDude]

So the HIB bulbs over 5800K are actually worse.
The Phillips 6000K Ultinon's are considered the best.

The following is probably one of the largest and most deceitful marketing ploys exploited on the internet today. So I will state, for the record: Osram-Sylvania's highest color temperature bulb is 5400K and Philips' highest color temperature bulb is 5800K (marketed at 6000K Ultinon). Nowhere on either of their corporate or consumer websites do they claim, endorse, or offer any HID bulb or kit that produces light over 6000K. I subscribe to both companies' online newsletters so in the nearly impossible event that they do make a 7000K or higher bulb, I will be one of the first ones in public to know about it and this page will be editted on that same day. But here is why Osram and Philips will never sell you a 7000, 8000 or 12000K bulb. Osram and Philips control the entire market on OEM bulbs, and they make enough money off selling OEM 4100K bulbs to ride it out indefinitely. So there is no reason whatsoever for either of them to nurture the trendy idea of high Kelvin blue/purple bulbs at the expense of their professional reputations.

[coladuna]

It's a personal choice, but I can't understand why anyone would spend extra few hundred dollars just to make their light more blue when they already have HID. Fine if you like the looks, but do you really want to spend that money when you can get defected for it?

[Omotesando]

Agree completely.... the EURO's oem HID Colour Temp at around 4300K is the best for visibility already. It is the same in most other HID equipped cars, where the output light is yellowish/white but looks very blue already from far away as light defracts from projector shield's cutoff.


So basically you keep the blue looks as well as best visibility.


THE MOST SARCASTIC THING is that most people who don't have original HID XENON equipment COMPLAIN that their 6000K bulbs don't give enough light on the road, and hence decide to change their projectors to Audi or Honda HID projectors, just to get both the far away blue tinge but having as much white, bright light on the road as possible to keep visibility.



Highest I would go is Philips Ultinon 5800-6000K - I have used these before, they are ok bright, but already 30% down on 4300K bulbs.

[JonW]

My 05lux has HID and have to say theyre sh*t to drive with at night compared to std halogens... am i the only one who hates them or do i need to get them seen to?

When I fisrt switch them on they seem extra bright and then then within a second or two they settle down and provide good distance pickup on things like signs etc but dont offer any confidence for spirited driving at all...

Any help appreciated as right now im tempted to swap to halogens! :-(

[Sulley]

My 05lux has HID and have to say theyre sh*t to drive with at night compared to std halogens... am i the only one who hates them or do i need to get them seen to?

When I fisrt switch them on they seem extra bright and then then within a second or two they settle down and provide good distance pickup on things like signs etc but dont offer any confidence for spirited driving at all...

Any help appreciated as right now im tempted to swap to halogens! :-(

haha 1st time im hearing someone wanting to switch from HIDs to halogen.
You might wanna try philips bulbs? or something brighter?

[JonW]

yeah the thought of 'downgrading' was a bit of a joke but what gives when everyone else raves about these and I just dont see how HID is a leap forward at all... ahh well, i'll just have to drive less at night!

[Xplodin]

Hell Yeah its a leap forward! I'll swap ya, My CD5 with Halogens for your Euro with HID. I LOVE the HIDs. Hence i got the conversion kits. They Light up the road like anything! What were u using on your old car? 150W? Seems like it Running on highbeams all the time. If i use my high beams with my HID's i see very little difference. Halogens are Crap! Unless ur using something exstream.

Anyways my 2 cents worth.

[Atjo]

Highest I would go is Philips Ultinon 5800-6000K - I have used these before, they are ok bright, but already 30% down on 4300K bulbs.

Before i bought the 8000K Eagle Eye HID replacement bulb i called Phillips Australia about the their 6000K HID replacement bulb since OEM HID kit on Euro using Phillips HID kit. Guess what? The price of each bulb is almost $500. I know they have the best bulb for HID but i'm not gonna pay almost $1000 for pair of replacement bulb. It's a rip off...

[JonW]

Hell Yeah its a leap forward! I'll swap ya, My CD5 with Halogens for your Euro with HID. I LOVE the HIDs. Hence i got the conversion kits. They Light up the road like anything! What were u using on your old car? 150W? Seems like it Running on highbeams all the time. If i use my high beams with my HID's i see very little difference. Halogens are Crap! Unless ur using something exstream.

Anyways my 2 cents worth.

Fair enough, but I just dont think the Honda HID units are that great in the Euro, just my 2c. I did have huge PIAAs on a STi in place of my fogs but my last car was an Audi A3 with Halogens, and IMHO they inspired more confidence to drive hard in the dark...

[Sulley]

anyone using taiwanese or china made HID kits?
im wondering whether there is a significant difference in the quality/life of the branded kits compared to the cheaper kits..considering the huge difference in price.

[Omotesando]

Sulley - I used to sell HID kits as a matter of fact, the ones I sold were Made in China but a Taiwanese invested company who had a great backing for the distributors. These were not bad, Í had no problems with them. I ceased to sell them in the end because they're illegal, also I had to go overseas to work.

As far as I'm concern the brand that I was importing (not sold in Australia anymore) was the best one there was, all the other ones on the market are quite crappy. The Colour Temp K quoted versus actually colour temp is completely misleading. For example a 8000K China/Taiwanese/Korean HID bulb is equivalent to around 6000K Phillips oem D2S bulb. The bulbs don't really last that long either, and the biggest problem is that both left and right bulb might look different.


If I was interested in HID Aftermarket Kits with a good Ballast and Igniters, I will look for Hella/Phillips made Ballast and Igniters (might be built into one unit) as well as modified Phillips bulbs. NOTE THAT PHILLIPS DOES NOT MAKE HID AFTERMARKET KITS FOR CARS. All sellers saying their's is a Phillips Kit is false. Phillips makes the components, but all cables, connectors, bulb base are sell made by someone else. You can trust me on this coz I have bought these, sold these, and used them :)

[TwEigh]

ok Now Im suprised that you can actually changed the bulb without changing the ballasts and/or the Igniters on euro.

anyone got 6000K installed on their euro?

Im ordering a 8000K hid for my euro's foglight, will post the pictures when it is installed.

[stephen8512]

ok Now Im suprised that you can actually changed the bulb without changing the ballasts and/or the Igniters on euro.

anyone got 6000K installed on their euro?

Im ordering a 8000K hid for my euro's foglight, will post the pictures when it is installed.

its pretty logical if u think about it though. i mean, HID's would be a VERY EXPENSIVE investment if u had to change the ballasts and all every time a HID bulb blew out.

[Atjo]

ok Now Im suprised that you can actually changed the bulb without changing the ballasts and/or the Igniters on euro.


For oem hid kits like euro luxury you just need to change the bulb with D2S replacement bulb like the one from http://www.plasmagarage.com. You don't have to change the ballast as well.

[Omotesando]

ok Now Im suprised that you can actually changed the bulb without changing the ballasts and/or the Igniters on euro.

anyone got 6000K installed on their euro?

Im ordering a 8000K hid for my euro's foglight, will post the pictures when it is installed.



I can't believe you will install HID foglights!!

Would look awesome... :) :) :)

[stephen8512]

its gonna be for show only i guess
8000K fogs are pretty useless in actual fog
but yeah looks nice

[TwEigh]

its gonna be for show only i guess
8000K fogs are pretty useless in actual fog
but yeah looks nice

wow didnt expect to have lot of replies.
but yeh, you are right Stephen, and in perth fog doesnt really exist. ;)
But i might have problem installing it with DIY

I changed the fog bulb before, and it was really hard to do(maybe i didnt do it properlly, but got the job done anyway). and especially with HID, you have to drill holes in the the car for the ballast. and pull the cable to the bottom of the car where the fog is.

Probably asking a proper installer is a better idea..