Accord Euro 06 Sat Nav question [Archive]

raaj

15-01-2006, 11:44 AM

Hi,

I just got the Accord Euro 06 with Sat Nav yesterday and have a question on the Sat Nav.

My street is not listed on the DVD. Sad as it seems that the street directory is quite old. I like to add my current home location to the list MY HOME. It shows the current location but doesnt allow me to add this as a point to my home.

Any ideas how I can add this as a point of location to HOME?

Thanks

Xplodin

15-01-2006, 12:14 PM

Raaj,

I'm not Euro Satnav guru, But i've had my fair share of sat nav either in PDA form, BMW's, Merc's, Toyota's, Volvo's and Rovers (essentialy a BMW system.) Obviously the Street map is stored on the DVD or CD. The GPS unit uses that info. and pin points you on the map. If your near a street then the unit will re position itself to the street. If your not near a street and in the middle of no where, then obviously your unable to make a POI (Point of Intrest) or in your case your house. Not Much that you can do about this but, to wait untill the next map update, and Maps can cost up to $400. (maps usualy done by Whereis (essentialy Sensis)) Hope i helped.

raaj

15-01-2006, 01:00 PM

Its sad that they provide a few years ago maps when someone has purchased a 2006 car and then expect us to pay $400 more to buy a new map.

Too bad now I cant point to my home other than a close by street :(

Telstra should be shot for this for providing outdated maps.

Xplodin

15-01-2006, 01:41 PM

Yeah i'm not 100% sure if your map uses the one from where is but majority of maufactures use Where is.

Check Whereis (http://www.whereis.com/whereis/products/prod_invehicle.jsp) For the most up todate map.

aaronng

15-01-2006, 01:59 PM

I'm not familiar with the satnav on the 06' Euro. Can you add the point as a POI/Favourite instead? If it fails, just add the corner address of the street just before your turning, so you will at least get to that familiar point before the satnav gives up.

jamchen

15-01-2006, 09:34 PM

well... as the case for the euro sat nav... u can preset ur home location and there's a quick slector from the main menu to " go home"

but damn raaj, u must be live in the surburb thats just developed Very, and i meant VERY recently... and yeah the only solution is u set a street nearby to be ur home.. or even wait for the update to come out (but i've heard they are fairly costy)
i am not sure whether all the MAP DVD in all euros are all the same...
if u wish u can PM me ur address and maybe i can try to find ur home from our euro sat nav...:D

raaj

15-01-2006, 10:55 PM

How is 2001 for a start. Thats when we moved into the area. I had the same problem with my Camry Azura 2003 model which didnt have it either. I finally bookmarked it using the Latitude/Longitude. So its set now. Only that it reads the old street name. Also the software version on the DVD says 2003.

UNLS1

16-01-2006, 11:26 AM

u have to ring up the map people, the contact details will prob be in the DVD case.
Then when the next map comes out it will be updated, this also happens with rrd changes and things like that...they send a person out to check it out...they also told us some times it could be a year and a bit more b4 they update it also....

so its kinda tough luck for now

raaj

16-01-2006, 11:35 AM

Yeah I understand all that but 3 or more years out??? Now thats a bit much after someone has paid almost $3K for a GPS unit. I expect it to be at least 1 year old which is fair enough but not to list a street which was in existance since 2001 is too much.

BiLL|z0r

16-01-2006, 12:21 PM

I agree raaj, it's simply not good enough. I'd "voice your unhappiness" with Honda and maybe they can go into bat for you with the map people. You fighting the map people isn't gonna do much, but Honda vs the them might???? Just a thought.

UNLS1

16-01-2006, 06:12 PM

doing that with honda will do nothing as honda is supplying the nav system but not the data for it.......

Its the same with everyone else!

PNR888

16-01-2006, 10:44 PM

raaj

16-01-2006, 10:48 PM

PNR888,

Toyota is no different. The maps on those GPS's were about 3 years out too. One of the sales reps at Toyota told me that the map people usually release first to print publications and only after that they give it out to Sat Nav etc at a much later date. I tried calling Toyota about it and their response was sorry cant do anything about it and to contact the map people. I also called the map people and they didnt have any answers only to give me the run around and for me to take it up with Toyota. So overall I got fed up after the run around.

I am sure its the same thing here too.

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 11:14 AM

Keep nagging Honda Australia and Map people, you have to let them know you are NOT HAPPY..... Maybe they can give you an updated copy in the future for compensation..

Gee, Can;t believe Honda uses out of date GPS map system, no wonder it is cheaper than other car maker's GPS system...

once again that will achieve nothing...as its not hondas prob...it will be fixed but in due time with the nav company. We were told this at nav training!

Its not easy keeping up to date with every single rd change, or new st in the whole country so u have to rely on customers to inform u on changes!
Can u imagine how many round abouts and steets that get changed everyday also new estates that pop up.......

so u have to expect lots of places to be missing!

-jimmy

yfin

17-01-2006, 11:17 AM

so u have to expect lots of places to be missing!

-jimmy

IMO this isn't good enough. So a $30 street directory issued in 2005 is more up to date than the Euro sat nav? What a joke.

Jimmy - I also disagree with you that it is "not honda's problem". They sell the car - it is their problem.

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 12:38 PM

IMO this isn't good enough. So a $30 street directory issued in 2005 is more up to date than the Euro sat nav? What a joke.

Jimmy - I also disagree with you that it is "not honda's problem". They sell the car - it is their problem.

its not just honda its every manufacturer who is in the same boat....Honda isnt supplying the maps so why is it hondas fault?

If the system has a fault its hondas problem, but if u get a roundabout put into your street that isnt updated on the sat nav DVD how the hell is that hondas fault?

Its rather simple

-jimmy

accordoholic

17-01-2006, 01:00 PM

Its not easy keeping up to date with every single rd change, or new st in the whole country so u have to rely on customers to inform u on changes!
Can u imagine how many round abouts and steets that get changed everyday also new estates that pop up.......

so u have to expect lots of places to be missing!

-jimmy

I'm not a SAT NAV supporter as I know myself not requiring to use such technology myself unless probably in a very remote area like deserts.

BUT, I can't see WHY it's up to customers to inform SAT NAV map suppliers what's new in the area. It should be up to the map suppliers to provide the most up-to-date maps on SAT NAV.

If UBD, SYDWAY, or Gregory's can do it, why can't they. All they have to do is get the latest info from RTA or those street directories suppliers just mentioned above.

UBD and others had always able to illustrate on the maps of future streets and highways so there is no reason why customers/users of SAT NAV need to provide those info.

And NO!!!, users should not expect many places to be missing. Maybe some, and it should only very few, but I totally disagree that the word "many" is used.

accordoholic

17-01-2006, 01:03 PM

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 01:29 PM

If u want an updated map u have to buy one every year not cheap either around $500 i have been told.....its just like a melways ive still got my one from 2000......but it only costs $30 to get one.....and i dont need to get a new one either...

If ur missing the street in the sat nav u can just put ur longitude and lattitude in...

and how can Honda be at fault if u buy the sat nav....and its up to date but next week a new street u want to live in has just been made or a roundabout at the end of ur street has just been put in....is honda and the nav map provider expected to send everyone in the country an updated copy of the maps with the changes????

I dont expect an new edition of melways when streets and road changes are added.

-Jimmy

accordoholic

17-01-2006, 01:47 PM

Jimmy,

don't quote on me, but the maps shouldn't be over a year out-of-date. It was never mentioned that SAT NAV maps be provided everytime one street gets updated. But from a buyer point of view, the maps should be at least near up-to-date when the car is delivered and not with a map that is 3yrs old.

for example, when someone buys a PC and gets anti-virus bundled with it, at least the latest anti-virus database is obtainable for a given period.

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 02:15 PM

i see wat ur saying, but the maps out now are very up to date...

If customers have problems with the maps they can ring sensis and they will amend the prob and will be fixed by the new disk......

but i cant justify $500ish for a new map to get my street updated lol

accordoholic

17-01-2006, 02:45 PM

I agree on not justifying for the cost of new maps, but what's more that I can't justify is the $3000 for the SAT NAV option. If I was to ever get SAT NAV which I highly doubt I will ever use at all, I would get a portable SAT NAV device.

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 03:12 PM

i wouldnt get sat nav i dont need it as i usually know where im driving, but sell lots of sat navs to sales reps and people who are on the road a bit...even husbands come in and get euros with sat navs for the wife coz she had no idea how to read a map!

There is a good market for sat nav thats why they put it in the Lux euro.

yfin

17-01-2006, 06:41 PM

its not just honda its every manufacturer who is in the same boat....Honda isnt supplying the maps so why is it hondas fault?

If the system has a fault its hondas problem, but if u get a roundabout put into your street that isnt updated on the sat nav DVD how the hell is that hondas fault?

Its rather simple

-jimmy

If it was so simple I would agree with you. Honda obviously do not supply or source every part on the Euro. I am sure hundreds if not thousands of parts in the Euro are not made by Honda. Does this mean when there is a problem with such parts Honda says we should all go to X or Y as it is not "their fault".

I agree we can't expect brand new streets to be in a sat nav vehicle. The issue here is raaj says he moved into the area in 2001. Now if you think that is acceptable you must be joking. I would expect more from someone who works at a Honda dealership instead of passing the buck. The age of the maps is not good enough and I think my comments are justified.

chosen_one

17-01-2006, 07:39 PM

even husbands come in and get euros with sat navs for the wife coz she had no idea how to read a map!.
HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO

jamchen

17-01-2006, 08:30 PM

i tried the address that raaj pm'd me and no i couldn't find it on our sat nav...
but but...raaj.. i tried to search ur street by using whereis on-line map and again it couldn't find the street... so i'd say there's a large opportunity that the info about ur street has been missing...
wow wow wow.. this thread is getting a bit aggresive now...
up to date now... i didn't have single complaint about the SAT NAV..
and i do agree that Honda might be liable for hardwares but then again the data in the DVD is abosolutely up to the company who distribute the map DVD..( in this case.. Whereis and sensis?!) i think it then makes a hardtime for their customers ( Honda, and maybe others)

aaronng

17-01-2006, 08:46 PM

I think it is the map provider's fault. I have a hand held GPS unit that has summer 2004 maps in it. That's just 1 year old. But there are roads that have been around for quite a while that are not in the mapping software.

UNLS1

17-01-2006, 08:52 PM

If it was so simple I would agree with you. Honda obviously do not supply or source every part on the Euro. I am sure hundreds if not thousands of parts in the Euro are not made by Honda. Does this mean when there is a problem with such parts Honda says we should all go to X or Y as it is not "their fault".

I agree we can't expect brand new streets to be in a sat nav vehicle. The issue here is raaj says he moved into the area in 2001. Now if you think that is acceptable you must be joking. I would expect more from someone who works at a Honda dealership instead of passing the buck. The age of the maps is not good enough and I think my comments are justified.

i see wat ur saying and i missed the part where he has been there sinse 2001.
The sat nav is a big thing for honda and we havnt had it for an option for ages coz japan didnt think we have the market for it!
But Honda does not make the maps so once again if that street RAAJ is not on the sat nav map its SENSIS's fault not hondas....there is a number he can ring on his dvd cover to find out what they can do to fix it...

and i am far from passing the buck, im going on what i have been told in sat nav training and other sources from honda that is all.

-jimmy

oh and p.s this is far from being a heated convo, its a very good read with some very good points being raised on both sides! :)

CL455

17-01-2006, 09:28 PM

^^ very true.... how much is a fully optioned up lux euro 06' compared to the 05'

cause sat nav can be good.... and convenient but end of the day it's just being lazy from reading a map.... reading a map shouldn't be so hard u look at the map and it tells u where u are ... just some common sense will save money...

UNLS1

18-01-2006, 08:12 AM

true! the RRP for an auto one is around 50k drive away

but everyone knows i do much better than that lol :D

BiLL|z0r

18-01-2006, 08:41 AM

true! the RRP for an auto one is around 50k drive away
but everyone knows i do much better than that lol :D

You're such a salesman.

blw

29-06-2006, 03:56 PM

I just had an interesting conversation with a sales guy at Honda Parramatta. He advised that when you buy the Euro Lux with Sat nav, you get a login user account and password with the car. You remove the disc from the drive in the car and you put it in the burner on your computer. You then log onto a website and download the latest map updates and rewrite them onto the disc.

Is this correct or is he full of ****?

blueeuro

30-06-2006, 03:25 PM

Dray_Templar

30-06-2006, 07:45 PM

unless i'm a total computer noob, this would mean that there data cd/dvd is re-writerable (i doubt it). me also thinks if you can burn it, then you could use any blank dvd/cd.. ( as long as it's the rite format +RW - RW RAW etc)
Also if they have been charging $400-$500 dollars for an update and getting it, i doubt there going to start giving it away.

but hey i been wrong before.