B16a Swap with Stock Brakes?

[ZeForce]

Hey ppl... I have a EH Civic Si Sedan with a B16a engine swap and I was just wondering if the stock brakes will provide enough stopping power for occasional spirited driving :confused: If not what brake upgrades would be recommended and rough price estimates would be greatly appreciated....

Thx in Advance

[[[d a n n y]]]

well the Si brakes are smaller than the VTIR/SIR brakes.
they will provide you neuff stopping power in the street but dont count on em
if your going to pang around abit.
they will stop in the mean time
but will wear out very quicly and possible damage some bits.

[iamhappy46]

Swap in the Civic VTiR or Integra LS, GSi or VTiR front brakes, you will need the whole hub assembly from ball-joint to ball-joint. If they still not satisfy you, fit slotted rotors and some really good brake pads.

[ZeForce]

Hmm Im not sure if the brakes were swapped along with the engine.... is there anyway to find this out?

[sivic]

measure the disc diameter.
if they were upgraded to VtiR etc. brakes they will be 262mm in diameter.
the stock Si ones are 242mm from memory

[ZeForce]

Swap in the Civic VTiR or Integra LS, GSi or VTiR front brakes, you will need the whole hub assembly from ball-joint to ball-joint. If they still not satisfy you, fit slotted rotors and some really good brake pads.

So I need to get the entire hub assembly? Cant I just swap the calipers and just buy some larger aftermarket rotors and pads to suit?

[VTi_b0i]

are hte Si brakes the same as VTi? cause i was just going to leave the stock brakes n get hi-per. brake pads and drilled and slotted rotors...

[barefootbonzai]

just look at your brake calipers, if there's a triangle sort of shape on the ends nothing has been changed. But if there isn't there they probably did the brakes as well.

[iamhappy46]

You need the entire hub assembly because the caliper mounting points are different. I tried this on my VTEC conversion but you def need the right hubs to suit the caliper bolt pattern and to space the caliper out to clear the 20mm rotor diameter increase.

Si and VTi are the same brake rotor/caliper design but the larger brakes are awesome! Slotted rotors and good quality pads will improve braking performance a LOT!

[2MPRSS]

you need to upgrade front brakes to pass engineers

[ZeForce]

just look at your brake calipers, if there's a triangle sort of shape on the ends nothing has been changed. But if there isn't there they probably did the brakes as well.


Hmm... triangle shape :confused: I dont understand what u mean... u wouldnt happen to have any pics of the different calipers? If anyone can post a pic of their stock Si or VTiR caliper that way I can indentify the caliper I have... Thx

[phantom_civic]

i still use stock Si brakes on my CRX after the b16 went in and doesnt brake good at all escpecially when braking at a high speed
will definitly change mine soon if i can be bothered.

[ZeForce]

Yeh I want to know that Im going to be able to stop.....

[iamhappy46]

Measure the disc rotor diameter as that is the only true way of knowing.

Pretty sure 242mm is Si/VTi and 262mm is VTiR spec.

[joneblaze]

Definitely look into upgrading your brakes.

You don't wanna do what Danny did with his first EG Breeze B16A hybrid - run around with stock Breeze front discs and rear drums, lol.

It's always good to keep an even balance across the board, and this is no different.

No use going fast if you can't stop! Or turn for that matter, so look into your suspension too! :)

[VTi_b0i]

yess brakes and susi are THE most important thing,
In a breeze for example u would be stupid not to upgrade the brakes, but for VTi egs and stuff i dont see the real need... my brakes are really good... wouldnt upgrading to hi performance pads and drilled and slotted rotors be sufficiant?