Negative Camber when Lowering

[kerim]

ey guys, i have a 99 civic sedan.

i had the stock springs compressed about 2" at front and about 2.5" at back (cant quite remember the exact inches but roughly that much).

i got 17s (profile 205/40/17) on and i went through nearly 2 sets of front tyres in a matter of 6 months, which cost me alot of $$$.

i got defected for the car being low so i put the car back to stock height with stock springs.

i wanna dump it again but wanna get front camber kits before i dump it.

Do you guys know which camber kit will be the best, how much it will cost and where i can get it from.

thanks :) :thumbsup:

[SiReal]

whiteline make and sell camber kits. i've seen prices typically around $180ish + - $50 for a single pair (either front or rear). You must've been doing alot of driving!

[kerim]

so for about $200 or like just under i can get front cambers. where can i get them from?

[mrwillz]

will i get negative camber wen i lower wif aftermarket springs wif stock shocks? jus a q, coz kerim used compressed stock springs?

i sure dont want quick tyre wear.

[kerim]

mate through the experiences that i had with tyre wear i am very sure you wouldnt wanna go thru wat i went thru

[mrwillz]

seen ur car for sale for a while on carsales..
im gona haf a hard think about getn camber kit

[kerim]

yeah its been on a for a while. lot of tyre kikers out there.
its getting a new sprayjob in differnt colour and gonna ad a font lip coz sum1 keyed the f#%k out of it

[barefootbonzai]

2 sets in 6 months is extreme. I don't think camber alone could cause that sort of wear.

[SiReal]

any lowering of any sort (usually extreme lowering) will give camber wear. Regardless of shocks, springs whatever. Unless you get coilovers with pillowball mounts which have camber adhjustment settings. (usually only works for non-hondas. bummer!)

So camber kits are good for preserving tyre wear. Ebay sell them ...usually ur typical suspension shop as well. Go to the whiteline website and check out their distributors. Maybe post a WTB and see if any traders hook you up. hope that helps :)

[bennjamin]

negative camber and too much +/- TOE will eat thru tyres like that.

its important to get a full wheel alignment after any suspension modification to make every adjusted relative to the new settings.

check out www.whiteline.com.au for front and rear camber kits -

front = $250ish
rear = $40 ish

*moved to sussy forum*

[kerim]

do u guys know any one that sell them for second hand

[BlitZ]

Make sure you get eveything correct and spot on..
Alot of honda 17" x 7 wheels have trouble runnnig less camber as they will stick out too much and rub the guard.
If you have a good offset wheel.. it shoudl proabably rub the inside of your current guard.. and then the reduction of camber would stop your wear and give you clearence..


If you current wheel rubs the outside and you get a camer kit it would rub more...


And as ben said... make sure u always get wheel alignment.. which causes a majority of camber wear

[kerim]

i dont have any problem with the tyres rubbing on the guards as the tires are low pro(205/40). I had 45s on them previously and at every little bump they would hit the guards. got no problems with the 40s though.
my main concern is just not to waste as much rubber in a short period of time.

[SiReal]

If you current wheel rubs the outside and you get a camer kit it would rub more...


yes, but using a camber kit cannot only reduce but salso increase camber, hence no rubbing. However the opportuinity cost of that is further increased tyre wear. As blitz stated, choosing the right offset is intergral to having a good setup.

[|N|]

i dont have any problem with the tyres rubbing on the guards as the tires are low pro(205/40). I had 45s on them previously and at every little bump they would hit the guards. got no problems with the 40s though.
my main concern is just not to waste as much rubber in a short period of time.

just go and get a full wheel alignment done

[kerim]

i did didnt help much

[iamhappy46]

I used the camber adjustable front upper arms available from www.noltec.com.au

You can constantly adjust camber to suit different ride heights, driving styles and tyre compunds.

[kerim]

how much would it cost for my car, 99 civic, and would it like make the wheels straighter

[kerim]

http://www.noltecsuspension.com/popdetail.php?id=N52221&vhcid=269&brand=Honda&series=CIVIC+%

would this work

[iamhappy46]

Yes, they will work but I bought the complete upper wishbone arm that has an adjustable upper ball joint position. If you want the cheap option, the bush you linked to is the way to go.


Also check out Whiteline part number: KCA378 or KCA371 for upper adjustable arms as well

[kerim]

I bought the complete upper wishbone arm that has an adjustable upper ball joint position.
how much u pay for that.

[kerim]

do you guys know how much the bushes will cost roughly

[iamhappy46]

I bought the upper c/arm at trade price, not sure what they are worth retail(around $240 for a pair I expect)

I know the adj bush kit retails for around $120 from Repco

[kerim]

so the adj bush kit will definately fix the front camber

[kerim]

im confused at what to get, my budget is abot 150-200

[iamhappy46]

Adjustable bush will fix your camber issues, it just makes it a little harder to adjust than fitting the adj. upper c/arm.

$200 should allow for parts + labour to professionally fit them