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philmak
06-02-2006, 06:09 PM
I've been looking at purchaing a new set of headlight globes for a while.

I can't decide between Philips crystal visions and Philips daimond visions . At the moment im leaning towards the latter because the diamonds produce a nice colour, although the crystals emit a whiter light which is probably better in terms of visibilty but the diamond visions did look pretty nice when i tried them on my car.

Has anyone used these before? What do you think about them?

What parkers did you guys use with the diamond visions?

Pictures would be great too :P

pocketrocket
06-02-2006, 06:23 PM
I've used the Crystal visions in my car before. Looking back they werent that great for visibility, they were more distracting and dazzling then practical. I prefer my OEM Bulbs as I can see more of the road. But if i were to get new bulbs i'd get the Vision Plus by Philips.

And when I bought my bulbs I got them with parkers to match the headlights, so they were white too, although you can buy them seperately for around $20 for a set of parkers by Philips.

Steer^Gimic
06-02-2006, 06:31 PM
to be honest, crystal vision and diamond vision are shithouse in terms of visiability. sure they look pretty, but at times like dusk, and rain, you cant even tell they are on!
if you wanted a happy medium between looks and function, i would pick the blue visions. 75% of our sales at work are the blue visions. i think its about a 33% improved brightness over standard. the coating on the globe isnt as thick as the CV and DV, so visibiltiy isnt sacfrificed for looks.

aaronng
06-02-2006, 08:31 PM
Diamond vision is not ADR approved too. :p

MR_PEA
06-02-2006, 10:11 PM
actually the reson they arnt adr approved is because they dont last as long as a regular globe..
personaly ide get diamond vision, it gives decent looks and performs well against the other compeditors,, but the downside is that they are 100 dollars, but u do get parkers with them though.....

xcwizit
07-02-2006, 12:00 AM
I bought my crystal for $90, the diamond vision is $150. Sure the diamond vision looks alot more sexier, but my crystal visions work just as good, and look just as blue. Just dont take off that metal reflector that covers the globe.

I used to have a GT4 celica wich used H4 globes, i had my crystals in there, & took the reflector coz i thought it mite make it more blue, but it doesnt.. wen i bought my civic, i left the reflectors in there & now it looks more blue because it reflects more off the metal.

Regarding the free parkers.. give`em away.. it aint blu parkers. Its more wite n abit yellowish (ugly yellow stock color).

Buy sum monza 3-LED parkers they are a nice wite. and look abit blue!! $10 from autobarn, autopro or repco. OR JUST STEAL `EM!!! hehe

GOOD LUCK

Bluish
07-02-2006, 07:11 AM
Get some BJUnion 6200K Halogen, it comes with free parker and only cost $55-$60, and the bulb is twice the size of diamond vision.

HondaCivic
07-02-2006, 07:24 AM
Ive had them all! I hade blue visions and the put crystals in, then diamonds. Diamonds are the same intensity as crystals so get diamonds!

You put a crystal in one headlight and a diamond in the other, the crystals look stock yellow! deff a noticable diff.

I get them trade price (dad auto elec) H4's diamonds are bout $80/90 TRADE

Both Crystal and Diamonds are not ADR approved. But cops dont care!

Edit: I use to keep blowing crystal globes all the time, diamons seem to last alot longer! havent blown one yet! now saying that ill blow one tonight :o

simbadda54
07-02-2006, 09:12 AM
Both crystal and diamond vision arent ADR approved (4300 & 4600K) but its highly unlikely u will get pulled over for having them. I bought some crystal visions about 2 weeks ago and i IMO it looks noticeably blue enough and the visibility isnt that bad either. I think the diamond visions decrease visibilty slightly

HondaCivic
07-02-2006, 09:32 AM
I dint notice any increase in intensity from crystal to diamonds but most importantly i dint notice any decrease. Diamonds look better and last longer. Trade price there not much more.

simbadda54
07-02-2006, 09:47 AM
The more intense blue colour of the diamonds really strain ur eyes after a longer drive tho so i still say crystals are better.

philmak
12-02-2006, 04:33 PM
I think the crystals are closer to an HID colour so they are a bit more whiter

SiR
12-02-2006, 07:27 PM
I've been through 2 sets of Diamond vision and neither of them have lasted longer than 6 months. If longevity is an issue for you, then my advice is to stay away.

Hope this helps. :)

simbadda54
12-02-2006, 07:31 PM
Have u been touching the bulb? 6 months is pretty short

Omotesando
12-02-2006, 08:03 PM
I think the Philips last a pretty long time in my past experience, never blew them.
But if you touch them at all they will die within a few months! Got to wipe it with a cloth somehow, even if my fingers aren't dirty and oily as some :D

SiR
13-02-2006, 09:18 AM
Have u been touching the bulb? 6 months is pretty short

No mate. I thought that might've been the prob. with my first set, so with my 2nd set, I made it a habit to give the bulbs a clean with denatured alcohol once every 2 months and whenever I handled them, I would always wear a pair of gloves as well.

Yet it still didn't last more than six months. :(

aaronng
13-02-2006, 10:08 AM
You're meant to put it in and leave it in. Don't pull them out every few months. Each time it is put in and removed, the headlamp housing could scratch the bulb.

redliner
13-02-2006, 10:42 AM
when install the diamond vision the light seems to point up more and blind people.. i had to adjust the headlight down. When i put the stock bulb back on i had to move the headlight back up coz the light was pointing at the ground :confused: . This is on the prelude 2000 model.

[stealth]
13-02-2006, 10:59 AM
Crystal Vision > Diamond Vision in terms of visibility (not much more but more)

Diamond > Crystal Vision in terms of kelvin rating (5000>4300k)

So it gives you more of that blue tinge effect... but at the same time.. comprimises your visibility @ night... no point even getting bluevisions.. basically stock really..

underc35a
15-02-2006, 03:00 PM
OEM > everything else
Seriously stay away from all aftermarket lighting, that includes HID kits.

EuroAccord13
15-02-2006, 03:06 PM
OEM > everything else
Seriously stay away from all aftermarket lighting, that includes HID kits.

Most if not all OEM bulbs come from Stanley or Hella...



Another thing that bulbs are constantly blowing can be attributed to grounding of the car......

J-MuN
15-02-2006, 03:13 PM
to be honest, crystal vision and diamond vision are shithouse in terms of visiability. sure they look pretty, but at times like dusk, and rain, you cant even tell they are on!Yeah, i've got them on my car and my bro has the BJ Union globes. They shit all over the Phillips bulbs IMO.

MR_PEA
16-02-2006, 10:52 AM
if you wanted straight brightness get the Vison plus,, most customers want that white look, which is the blue tint on the glass, the stronger the tint the less light output the globe will give. ie blue vision/ crystal vision / diamond vision (white, whiteish blue, blue)

hid kits are great cause they give you that blue look and the light output is about 5-8 times better then normal halogen globes. on the plus side they dont work the alternator as hard either cause they use 35w each over the 55 watts of the standard globes thats a total of 40watts not used...

rambohung
20-04-2007, 11:00 PM
Sorry to bring up an old post. For Halogen H1

wondering which will give better night visibility:
Philips Vision Plus
or
Philips Power2night
or
Narva Plus50?

vtek
20-04-2007, 11:38 PM
from my expereice diamond visions give the best looking light, but poor visabilty and my H4s never seemed to last. Checked the grounding and everything but still blew. Ive got h1s in my fog lights but they are going good.

[ricer]
20-04-2007, 11:45 PM
had h4 crystal visions
lasted 10months

nice light nice globe but life isnt that great for $100 globes

got my yellow oem ones back in... man they go on forever...

hui
21-04-2007, 12:28 AM
although phillips are well known for their bulbs, other brands like bj union or raybrigs are just as good, if not betta. definately cheaper....

EuroAccord13
21-04-2007, 01:11 PM
Philips Vision Plus FTW!

Fr3aKi3
21-04-2007, 02:50 PM
Philips Power2Night FTW!!!

Awesome light output, white with a slight yellow colour. The tip is tinted/coloured blue so it looks good in a reflector housing. Well worth the $57 I payed for them.

The current Autosalon mag as a review of light bulbs, here's a little snippet:

BlueVision ($60) 3500k 9/10 (for brightness)
CrystalVision ($100) 4500k 8/10
DiamondVision ($145) 4800k 6/10
Power2night (or GT150, $57) 3300k 10/10
VisionPlus ($40) 3200k 9/10
Philips Premium ($22) 3200k 9/10
Narva Halogen ($22) 3100k 9/10
Narva Plus50 ($37) 3200k 10/10
Narva Artic Blue ($40) 3600k 9/10

There's quite a few more bulbs in the review Exelite, Bosch, Mtec, Polarg,Bio Light, MiraMax, Calibre, Splitfire, Raybrig and G4. There is also a pic of each bulb when it's in actually use, although the picture is just of how the bulbs looks in the housing and not of the light output on the road.

[ricer]
22-04-2007, 12:26 PM
The current Autosalon mag as a review of light bulbs, here's a little snippet:

BlueVision ($60) 3500k 9/10 (for brightness)
CrystalVision ($100) 4500k 8/10
DiamondVision ($145) 4800k 6/10
Power2night (or GT150, $57) 3300k 10/10
VisionPlus ($40) 3200k 9/10
Philips Premium ($22) 3200k 9/10
Narva Halogen ($22) 3100k 9/10
Narva Plus50 ($37) 3200k 10/10
Narva Artic Blue ($40) 3600k 9/10

There's quite a few more bulbs in the review Exelite, Bosch, Mtec, Polarg,Bio Light, MiraMax, Calibre, Splitfire, Raybrig and G4. There is also a pic of each bulb when it's in actually use, although the picture is just of how the bulbs looks in the housing and not of the light output on the road.

what do they base the scores on?

Fr3aKi3
22-04-2007, 12:34 PM
;1142361']what do they base the scores on?

For brightness thye used a light metre and setting it to ISO100 with a shutter speed of 1/25th second.

For colour ratings they projected the light onto a white screen and took a photo of it, Adobe Camera Raw was then used to process it to give a kelvin reading.

[ricer]
22-04-2007, 12:37 PM
u cant really test the life expectancy of a globe can you when conducting a test on various globes over a short period of time?

Kiz_EG6
22-04-2007, 12:42 PM
Ok, where to start... Since this post was started, crystal vision have past an ADR approval, but as some other guys were saying, the chances of you getting defected for non ADR approved headlights are so ridiculously slim that it doesn't matter.

Vision plus and Power to night, or GT150's are exactly the same thing, only the Gt150's have the blue tip to make them more attractive in your hadlight when turned off! Also, at the moment, the GT's only come in H4 and H1.
But yes, these will be the brightest by a mile, they just do not give the blue hue that the others do!

If you want my opinion, i would forget about all these bulbs costing up to 120 bucks or so and go a full HID replacement kit, the phillips ones are getting pretty cheap now, meaning that the market is getting competitive, same thing that has happened with the sat navi systems, the cheapest ones now retailing for around the $299 mark!

Just to let you know, phillips have just released another one Called "silver vision" through the headlight range, this is because, honestly, blue is out!

Fr3aKi3
22-04-2007, 01:08 PM
;1142373']u cant really test the life expectancy of a globe can you when conducting a test on various globes over a short period of time?

There was no mention of globe life, the review is simply just about colour and brightness. To do a review of all those bulbs it'd take months if not years for each bulb (under normal conditions) and to have consistency you'd have to test each one under the same conditions (ie same car), i'm pretty sure they have better things to do than to test a light bulbs life expectancy.

[ricer]
22-04-2007, 03:53 PM
yeah i thought so... just wanted to make sure.

dsp26
22-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Actually has anyone considered the Narva ones?? their not HID coloured... but they have the +50% brightness ones now and make a huge difference in visibility compared to oem and hid type globes.

gerard
23-04-2007, 12:43 PM
Philips Power2Night FTW!!!

Awesome light output, white with a slight yellow colour. The tip is tinted/coloured blue so it looks good in a reflector housing. Well worth the $57 I payed for them.

The current Autosalon mag as a review of light bulbs, here's a little snippet:

BlueVision ($60) 3500k 9/10 (for brightness)
CrystalVision ($100) 4500k 8/10
DiamondVision ($145) 4800k 6/10
Power2night (or GT150, $57) 3300k 10/10
VisionPlus ($40) 3200k 9/10
Philips Premium ($22) 3200k 9/10
Narva Halogen ($22) 3100k 9/10
Narva Plus50 ($37) 3200k 10/10
Narva Artic Blue ($40) 3600k 9/10

There's quite a few more bulbs in the review Exelite, Bosch, Mtec, Polarg,Bio Light, MiraMax, Calibre, Splitfire, Raybrig and G4. There is also a pic of each bulb when it's in actually use, although the picture is just of how the bulbs looks in the housing and not of the light output on the road.

Thats a good comparision as most of us will probably use these since they are readily available.
I am using Philips +50 on my low beams and Philis Rally 100 watters for my high. Note that rally bulbs only have a 100 hour life but they are Philips brightest (and are not intended for road use).

Patrick
23-04-2007, 12:49 PM
I have the diamond vision lights and they are awsome. nice colour and i can see everything clearly

LoiBoi
13-05-2007, 12:21 PM
diamond is better looking but a ripoff, they dont last long either. mine blown in under a year. just buy a $200-300 HID kit off ebay.