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MoDCoN
23-02-2006, 07:02 PM
hey guys just a lil query...
what was the model before the EF? and did it ever have the d16a8 engine in it?
i am asking in relation to this car....
lil car. (http://carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=2894479¤t_rec=2&used_rec=11&total_rec=60&sort_type=&total_rec=60&sort_type=&price_min=2500&price_max=7500&make_id=19&model_id=74&state_id=-1&search_distance=25)
cheers!
heist
23-02-2006, 07:11 PM
yes the JDM si had the ZC (D16a8)
nice little car
MoDCoN
23-02-2006, 07:23 PM
ooh really? is that like the mugen civic in gt4? how does it handle, given its sussy set up? and how hard would it be to perform such a swap????
crx_boy7
23-02-2006, 09:03 PM
if u got an ED (89) or sumthing before that then ill hook u up with all the bits and peices its a jdm crx (ZC) full conversion this can beat a d16y with ease as my old one with some cheap HIE i was playing with my friends eg vti like a cat with a ball of string LOL
yourfather
23-02-2006, 09:10 PM
ED had a D15B4 for AUDM
SlobberGoat
23-02-2006, 11:51 PM
Thats the browntop ZC (D16A3)... 10 or so horsies down on power from the blacktop ZC (D16A8/9)
MoDCoN
24-02-2006, 12:00 AM
okay. so could the d16a8 fit in?
oh, and proecu i've been reading up on that link you posted above to endyn... wow there is some really awesome stuff there. i've always liked the idea of a supercharger, and they are achieving decent efficiency... can that be done here too? who has the know how?
cheers
egads
24-02-2006, 12:07 AM
yeh i also saw that add, good price for a top little car. apparently only the brown top zc from that model civic or from the 87-88 integra (popup lights) bolt in. whereas later model zc's need work, im guessing mounts.
more @ redpepperracing.com
MoDCoN
24-02-2006, 12:18 AM
thx egads! ;)
SINISTR
24-02-2006, 01:02 AM
they are the AF/AS models.
Depending on year of production the AF models usually came with two motors EW2 and EW5. EW2 was carburated SOHC 1.5, EW5 was EFi SOHC 1.5. the AS models which came out in 84 were also fitted with a D16A3 or browntop ZC. In 85/86 came the GL/Si - which was purely a ZC - possibly even a blacktop.
Yes - D16A8 will fit if the car came with a D16A3. If EW motor - you need to play around with engine mounts, possibly with Efi if the EW2 series.
the one you posted comes with a ZC - so thats a bonus.
Hope this helps?
MoDCoN
25-02-2006, 05:28 PM
yeah it is! thx! just gettin my knowledge up, plus looking at possible future plans if i ever get enough money. :(
j3z3z
25-02-2006, 06:09 PM
dont worry to much about the engine as those civics dont need much power to go nuts. trusts me i used to own one with a d15 carbie
Setanta
26-02-2006, 09:01 AM
'84 Civic and CRX were the AT and came with the 130ps motor (Si spec). Had a brown cover but was same output as the blacktop. Lisa Cooke in the NSWHCC owned an imported one - they were a beautiful car.
SINISTR
26-02-2006, 02:05 PM
'84 Civic and CRX were the AT and came with the 130ps motor (Si spec). Had a brown cover but was same output as the blacktop. Lisa Cooke in the NSWHCC owned an imported one - they were a beautiful car.
CRXs were AS in 84 and came with a 118HP Browntop ZC. :)
wasnt till 85 when the Si came out with the blacktop 130hp and matched the early 87/88 CRX Si.
as for the output of the browntop and the AS chasis bit :P I've got one sitting in my garage.
egads
26-02-2006, 02:35 PM
as for the output of the browntop and the AS chasis bit :P I've got one sitting in my garage.
hows it go? does it put a smile on your dial? :p
those cars are ****in ****!
id rock the crap out of one with a zc.
check this badass one :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/3876/1303081copy8le.jpg
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/3053/1303073copy8na.jpg
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/1143/motorpics002copy3jg.jpg
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/633/geeeeeeeezface021copy5xi.jpg
EuroDude
26-02-2006, 03:31 PM
whats that a 160hp B16A? In that light thing it would kick major commodore a$$, nice pics :)
My cous had one of those which did almost 1million km, not bad cars. A 130hp D16A8 would also be great in there.
Gotta look out for rust when buying it tho (22yrs)...
MoDCoN
26-02-2006, 03:49 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmm egSi those pics are hot!
we need more 3rd gen appreciation!
STTICH
26-02-2006, 04:03 PM
damn Trav.. tats pure hotness!!!
u should get one exactly the same..it'll be a good 'brotherly love' of urs. :)
SINISTR
26-02-2006, 05:39 PM
hows it go? does it put a smile on your dial? :p
:p wish i could tell you haha, its sitting there waiting to get fixed. Runs every now and then. Im currently waiting to replace the 'slow idle valve' as all the hoses were corroded and snapped off.
It will go... since its getting Supercharged :) 6psi but should be good still.
that little Civic is MAD!!!! :) very nice and clean!!!!
egads
26-02-2006, 06:42 PM
jeebus that thing would hammer@!!
how hard would it be to shoe-horn a b-series in there? surely custom mounts etc. looks pretty tight/
im pretty sure u can buy OFF THE SHELF mount kits for em man :thumbsup:
SINISTR
26-02-2006, 10:41 PM
you sure can - HASPORT caters for just about anything. mounts, linkages, clutch conversion, harness even drive shafts I think... pretty much sorted!
Setanta
27-02-2006, 03:19 PM
CRXs were AS in 84 and came with a 118HP Browntop ZC. :)
wasnt till 85 when the Si came out with the blacktop 130hp and matched the early 87/88 CRX Si.
as for the output of the browntop and the AS chasis bit :P I've got one sitting in my garage.
I beg to differ (and you might want to check with McChook's mum and Martin Donnon who raced an '84 Si)... as of 1984/11 the Civic Si was designated EE-AT. Honda officially rated its ZC as 135/6,500 (PS, not BHP - but that still rates it @ 130 Bhp - not the gold-top spec.
Linky here: http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/civic/cv3-k-309/si_sy.html
Martin Donnon of Fueltronics got his to 200+ bhp and extensively documented the build from 130bhp to 200 from where it went to set class records for various hillclimbs. You can find some limited info on his buildup in the first of the FFor HF magazines - but I had the joy of watching his car smash Hillclimb records - and it was definitely an '84 AT.
Anyway - it's a moot point - they are up there with EFs as the prettiest Civics ever built - although a Mugen 1G is a sight to behold and the EGs only lose out because the Del Slow let down the build in being ugly and... slow. EM1s are in a class of their own ;)
SINISTR
27-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Yeah - Hang on a second... :)
There is a difference between a Civic and a CRX and the models associated with each.
You said in 84 Civics and CRXs came out with a blacktop ZC and were the AT model.
I corrected that and said in 84 CRXs were AS and came out with a 118HP browntop ZC. Wasn't till 85 that they came with a blacktop ZCs.
Now the Civics in late (November 84) could have come out with the Blacktops already - hence the cars that were imported from late 84/early 85 could have very well had that option.
Its all good - just clearing it up and differentiating the differences... ;)
As it is: both the Civics and CRXs of the 80s were definatelly outstanding in terms of technology compared to some of the other vehicles of that time. Honda was definatelly thinking outside the box (still is).
BTW: ive got the only 84' AS 1.6 CRX in WA. :P
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