Parts for Honda CRX SiR

[nuborn]

You might be able to tell by my username i am new to forums and dont even have a honda yet. However, i just got my first full time job and goddamn love CRX SiR's. Does anyone own or know if it is difficult to get parts for them and if they are expensive to fix when something goes pop? I am looking at buying one from the mainland as i am in Tassie and there aint no SiR's here let alone many crx's but will only do so if i can fix the thing cos the prices people want for them aint exactly low scale for a car of that age, let alone having to possibly spend a fortune on it on top of that. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers folks,

James

[rexi3]

they are as easy as normal crx's to fix.. Just have to learn which parts can match up with other models. For example, the suspension for my SiR comes from a DC2 model. Also EG suspension fits aswell.. So I have found it relatively cheap considering its an import. Only trouble I have had so far was with a replacement filter for stock air box, I ended up sorting it out in a couple of mins.. Just have to know where to look (ozhonda, crxaustralia.com)

There is a great SiR for sale at the moment that I wanted when I bought mine but was asking a heap more before. I would of snapped it up hell quick if it was for sale for the price it is now..

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34207

Hope that helps out..

[Dxs]

ok here is my take..
crx parts in general are not the easiest parts to find at a wrecker compaired to say an integra, accord civic etc etc. And because EF8/SiR's are rare i would say if you smashed the front you would have an extremely difficult time finding parts. (the front of these cars are different design then the aussie crx).

Also the engines in these are b16a's and have cable transmissions.. no aussie delivered car came with b16a (a2 yes though) and none came with b series cable transmissions. So if a difficult or unique parts gets stuff you might have a headache finding a replacement, especially in tassie. But as rexi said most of the common stuff you can get like filters, belts gaskets because b16a2 stuff will fit.

If you want bolt on mods for the car too, model specific you will most of the time have to order from overseas because no one here really caters for them..

also if your attraction to the SiR crx might also be because of the rear seat, i think it is illegal to basically use them and they are too small anyway. Basically pointless.. ofcourse u could still use them, but if ur mates get killed in the back by some car i doubt u will ever forgive yourself.

Also fuel oconomy for these cars hasnt been as good as expected for most..


if you can deal with this then get one.. there seems to be a fair few coming in because of the end of the 15 year rule so things might get better.. but yeah :thumbsup::thumbdwn:

[nuborn]

thanks for your reply and i expected about as much (that it wont be easy to fix the car), seeing as i am young and have crashed one car the bumper is certainly something to think about. dunno wat ur on about with the backseat, think that was on overkill on guilt trip to be honest, i rarely take more than two ppl in a car neways, and all the cars i'm interested in are two door and i have no intention of caging people up. but thankyou for ur wisdom and will appreciate it when making a decision on whether to buy one of these or not.

[nuborn]

thanks for your advice, but i think it sounds like it could be a pain in the arse finding bits and pieces for the car, but i will take it all into account, thankyou.

[Dxs]

all i am saying is that legally i cant have ppl in the back who are over 28kg or 78cm or some bs.. all the cars i have owned and really driven have been 2 door; integra, silvia, festiva and the crx would be the worset for rear seats.. almost useless..
so think of the sir as really a 2 seater only, compaired to say a silvia which is ok for 4 ppl..

just remember that with the joy of owning a rather rareish car also comes the downfalls

maybe look into an EF9... civic SiR.. weigh a little more but are sexy and have better rear seats

good luck

[bumography]

dont use the rear seats, i'm 166cm and i my head touches the hatch glass
and theres no legroom at all!

Front bumpers arent so hard to find if u want aftermarket bumpers!
For the SiR, Headlights, indicators and bonnet is rarer ! (lucky i have some spare ;)
I once went to a wrecker and they wanted $500 for the SIR bumper, with indicators, i thought the guy woudlnt know how special it was, but i was wrong.

But you gotta realize when u have a car, you dont plan on crashing it... i've had my car for about 6 years now and i've never smashed any of the lights ..
however i've replaced my headlights about 3 times (from plastic, to glass, to SiR) and my rear lights as well (88, to 91

[defect]

Will probably depend where your located? Syd has a few honda wreckers that will be able to source you parts

Parts for hondas are generally more expensive

[Setanta]

Also fuel oconomy for these cars hasnt been as good as expected for most..

WTF??? Do you actually know what you are talking about????

7.15 liters per 100km (highway cycle) in my EF9 and it's heavier than an EF8. I can drive Sydney to Melbourne on 1 1/2 tanks of fuel. They have a smaller tank than the ED6 - maybe that's confusing you.

Around town I get about 8.5 liters/100km - which goes to about 12 liters/100km if I drain the tank putting the boot in all the time.

If you think that's poor fuel economy, don't ever buy a V8.

Rather than making uninformed opinions, here's the lowdown:

Parts are available from NZ but are in limited supply. Parts can be ordered from Japan but may take up to 3 months to arrive. A lot of the body trim that is EF8/9 specific is unavailable. Many parts can be taken from other Hondas. Aftermarket performance parts are readily available.

The EF8/9 are more reliable than their ED counterparts if treated properly. 305,000kms on my original B16A motor (got the car with 120,000 on it over 7 years ago) and minimal wear and tear has proven it.

[Dylanamus]

Bolt ons are especially common. Most B18c bolt-ons are fine for the B16a, same with most other B series parts (ie the del sols). Even if it were a case of "import only" there are heaps of JDM import businesses in Australia. Taking a rear passenger hasn't been a problem for me, but I guess it depends on their height (or spinal flexibility lol) and the stiffness/height of your suspension. If vicroads (or other state equivilent) is prepared to register the vehicle as a 4-seater, then they've decided that it conforms to the safety requirements.

Aftermarket suspension specific to the EF8 is mostly import only, but most Aussie suppliers carrying that brand will import them for you as long as you make a large deposit.

As mentioned, most parts from CRX Si models from the interior/exterior are compatible and thanks to the strong global aftermarket for SiRs, the exclusive parts are obtainable, even if the only sacrifice is non-OEM (ie angel-eye projectors instead oaf the fogged OEM front lights)...

The downsides to the SiR are pretty limited and in most cases where you can't find OEM replacements locally, you might be up for extra in the form of postage. In my opinion it is worth it.

[Dxs]

WTF??? Do you actually know what you are talking about????

no i dont.. i like to talk shit..


maybe where i said hasnt been the best for most was exageratted..
but there are a couple of people getting around 330k's per tank on crxau when they dont baby/granny their car..

' Also fuel oconomy for these cars hasnt been as good as expected..'

i would say that is a fair comment (besides the most).. And i have previously owned a car that liked fuel, which was a big factor to change to a 1.6

so yeah, just calm down old man.. everything will be alright

[Setanta]

Condescending f*cker aren't you?

Having owned everything from heavily modified chev 8s, a hemi 6, rotaries, turbo 6s and 4s as well as motorbikes over the past 20 years, It never ceases to amaze me that people want performance and economy. You can't have both. VTEC is designed to be economical on the smaller cam lobe but when you open it right up and you switch to the larger lobe, more air and fuel (shock horror) goes into the motor.

At 8000rpm plus, that's a shitload of fuel dumping into the motor.

It's not rocket science really, it just surprises me how dumb people are.

Try a big-block 8 at idle - now THAT's poor fuel economy. Not to mention a PP 13B with good old fashioned carby induction.

[Dylanamus]

On the B16a, lobe C (ie the high rpm lobe associated with VTEC) engages at 5,300rpm. Even spirited driving would be pressed to exceed this rpm (except maybe in first gear). It is true that power comes at the cost of fuel economy, due to the basic principal that more fuel makes larger explosions which produces more energy. etc. The low rpm lobes, A and B, have shorter valve lift durations that don't allow as much fuel to enter the cylinders; this comes at the cost of performance and at this sacrifice, better fuel economy is achieved. Exeed 5,300 and you sacrifice economy for power.

If you are racing a car near redline for its entire tank, it wouldn't matter if it was a 900cc or a 5L, it would still be uneconomical. For economical driving, the EF8 is efficient. If anyone thrashes their car around and complains about bad economy, they should have a lobotomy.

[BSRacer]

Relax everone and feel the love. At least there are some more EF folk around now. If anyone has any parts questions ask me. I've replaced most of the interior and had a little bingle which broke some front bits shortly after I got my car. I even sourced all of the badging for the outside of the car. As for suspension, it's the same as ED. If you want coilovers you can us EG ones. Rear strut braces are the same as DC2 integra, front ones are model specific. Extractors I'm 95% sure are model specific too, there isn't a whole lot of room in that engine bay, not to mention ground clearance. Also my car is off the market, decided to keep it no one will pay me what it's worth.

[Dylanamus]

My EF8 has a JUN header, which as you can see (link below) is not designed for the EF8, yet it fits fine with no clearance issues. I suspect this may be the case for the majority of b16X headers, but you would want to double check with the supplier first.

http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/exhaust-part/exhaust-header/index.html?en

BSRacer. I'm sure your car would have been great, but I found a few just down the road from me coming with roadworthy and rego for less than you wanted. If I lived in Adelaide, it would have been a different situation! I'm sure you'll get a few more years of pleasure out of your SiR anyway!

If you know where I could get my hands on door trim/rubber, I'd appreciate the heads up. Half of the plastic visor above the door trim has been snapped off, damaging the rubber. I want to completely remove both visors and retrim it.

Cheers

[Dxs]

Setanta all i said was basically
'Also fuel oconomy for these cars hasnt been as good as expected for most.. '

I stick by that.. i am slightly dissapointed with fuel economy.. although i have not done a proper test as of yet. on my first test i rarely vteced and got around 300 to 350 to a tank! when i babied my old d16 gen1 teg i could get 500 (i believe same sized tank) and that is a heavier car too by around 200kgs.

it would have been amusing to see your reaction if i tried to piss you off rather then just state a fuel economy opinion that you were not supportive of. ;)


good to see you are keeping the ride too bsracer.. looks like the sir's are hard to sell at the moment going by carsales..

and on dylan's note.. if anyone has the plastic cover for the holes in the dash where the switches can go.. i want a cover.. pref in offblack ;)

[BSRacer]

Not entirely sure which bit you mean Dylan. The rubber seal would be the same as the locally delivered I'm pretty sure. CRX Si and SiR doors are the same. So maybe try ringing your local honda dealership. You should try the same DSX. By law honda has to carry parts for at least 15 years and gen2 crx's were made until the end of 1991 so i'd give that a go. Just don't tell em it's an import, they tend to get confused ;)

[Dxs]

the word import scares everyone at honda, that's for sure..

are you sure about this 15 year rule.. they said the plastic piece is nill stock/cant get it.. yet they can order little rubber gaskets that i need from japan if need be (but they are got gen3 crx's)..

maybe i will ask them next time i am there.. joy :/


also i dont know what u are talking about either.. i had the plastic wind visors on the doors of my car. But removed them.. do u mean the window rubber seals??