turbo?

[jrakasp]

how does turbo charging compare to na?
in terms of power, money and overall value for moeny

[saxman]

more power for less money

this should probably be int he forced induction forum though

[jrakasp]

oh shit
sorry newcomer
haha

[Dylanamus]

Turbocharging is, and will most likely always remain, the best cost : power investment for the combustion engine. N/A may not be as cost effective at delivering raw power, but it has its other advantages and pulls a different following to the force induction crew.

It all depends on how much power you really want. There is a limit to how much power you can put to the wheels of a front wheel drive before you have serious traction issues (and thus, street drivability concerns). If you're just looking for a bit more go with added reliability and perhaps a more linear power band, N/A is a good choice. If you want to "smoke 'em up", drag, or drift, turbocharging is better bang for your buck, (although unless you specifically wanted to challenge the FWD class, I would be asking myself why I didn't go AWD or at least rear wheel drive for this purpose).

Hope I haven't been too biased in my comments...

EDIT: from cost:power to cost : power LOL :D

[VT3C]

but ohh man it feels SO GOOD to chop a turbo with your N/A.. ohh yeah !!

[jrakasp]

[QUOTE=Dylanamus] (although unless you specifically wanted to challenge the FWD class, I would be asking myself why I didn't go AWD or at least rear wheel drive for this purpose).
[\QUOTE]

funny u mentioned...i did own a subaru wrx before ek4.
good fun to drive..but i feel it lacks bit of power.
thanks for ur help!

[HondaLva]

yeah the throttle response gets me goin:P my old mans got an 02 Wrx sti and i hate it ya try to heel toe at low rpm and the ****er does nothing ya simply touch the pedal in the teg and up the revs jump......(drools) NA all da way:)

[saxman]

yeah the throttle response gets me goin:P my old mans got an 02 Wrx sti and i hate it ya try to heel toe at low rpm and the ****er does nothing ya simply touch the pedal in the teg and up the revs jump......(drools) NA all da way:)
there's no reason you can't do a turbo set up that has wonderful throttle response... all a matter of how the turbo system is designed.

[LVNIT]

yeah the throttle response gets me goin:P my old mans got an 02 Wrx sti and i hate it ya try to heel toe at low rpm and the ****er does nothing ya simply touch the pedal in the teg and up the revs jump......(drools) NA all da way:)

Yeah maybe if your in 4th gear and under 2500rpm, the same can be said for your honda too. Our STI and my WRX have excellent throttle response from take off.

In regards to the question, value for money your always going to be looking at the forced induction route, 4-5k should get you double the power at the wheels with a correctly designed turbo kit.

[Q_ball]

but ohh man it feels SO GOOD to chop a turbo with your N/A.. ohh yeah !!
honestly...how often does that happen?
thats rite.....not very!

there's no reason you can't do a turbo set up that has wonderful throttle response... all a matter of how the turbo system is designed.
amen to that!

this topic has been covered quite a few times also, plz use the search feature in the forced induction forum!!

[VTC-8OY]

u cant compare the 2... with the amount of money u spend on mods to a n/a car u could have a 12sec turbo for less.. though u would be spending more on the long run with a turbo with all the fuel/tune ups/parts/repairs/insurance etc

[LVNIT]

How on earth would you be spending more in the long run with a turbo setup?

To make power you use fuel, so regardless of which setup both are going to use fuel.

Tuning a high power na setup will cost the same, if not more then a turbo setup. More fine tuning in a high power na setup as your going for every last bit of power.

Parts, well fcuk both setups require parts, na is going to cost you more money for a similar power or time on a track.

Insurance is going to be the same, insurance goes on how many modifications you have on the car aswell, not just whether it is boosted or not. Here is some news for you, insurance on a turbo honda was more then a wrx for myself.

[Weq]

less u mean?

[VTC-8OY]

mate im jus talking about a turbo honda vs slightly modded n/a honda...

anyway regardless of what car u have, fuel for turbo car, required = 92 high octane or higher (more expensive then normal unleaded isnt it? Yes)

[Weq]

dude, u are crazy.
to make power, you have to use fuel.
to make power, u have to increase compression
this means good fuel and u will use it.

the reason why NA honda's use so littke fuel, is cause they make no ****ing power.

[VTC-8OY]

how does turbo charging compare to na?
in terms of power, money and overall value for moeny

lol weq dude, im jus giving my 2c with fuel costs in regards to what the guy asked... im just saying.. overall, with a turbo u would be using premium always compared to n/a car which can run on regular, as in u would be spending more for cost of fuel each week, das all...

[Q_ball]

the reason why NA honda's use so littke fuel, is cause they make no ****ing power.
amen!! :D

[saxman]

lol weq dude, im jus giving my 2c with fuel costs in regards to what the guy asked... im just saying.. overall, with a turbo u would be using premium always compared to n/a car which can run on regular, as in u would be spending more for cost of fuel each week, das all...
not really though... if you have an n/a car actually making some power, you're going to need higher octane fuel too

[Weq]

lol weq dude, im jus giving my 2c with fuel costs in regards to what the guy asked... im just saying.. overall, with a turbo u would be using premium always compared to n/a car which can run on regular, as in u would be spending more for cost of fuel each week, das all...

NO WAY id run a performance hondaon regular. these engines are designed with 100ron in mind. compression on a fast NA setup will DEMAND high octane. Notice how i said compression as all a turbo is is dynamic compression. NA and turbo are the same thing. think of a turbo as a dynamic engine with infinite compression ratio's

[JDMiss]

3 out of the 4 cars in my family are turbo.. overall i'd say turbo is :thumbsup: if u want to feel the pull from the moment you step on the gas, turbo is for you.

All our turbo cars use Shell Optimax so sometimes the weekly fuel bills can be a lil :confused: But if you can afford the 'better' quality/octane fuel.. then why not right? Turbo or NA tho.. if you drive like a hoon constantly your car will literally drink your fuel silly

Im all in for NA cars.. I drive turbo but you'll catch me daydreaming over a sweet looking Honda especially a Type R Integra anyday LOL

Sometimes you see NA cars modded up soo much to achieve more power etc.. its just too funny. Makes you wanna say 'dude, just go buy yourself a turbo'

I think with turbo and NA, it'll cost you around the same either way

[[ricer]]

narh turbo way cheap and gains are easier
personally if i had a bit more money i would have just got a turbo car from the start
i dont get peoples facination with the 'na all the way attitude' na is boring...

i like the VROOM pssssh hahaha :D

[dc4t]

bcozz n/a is more impressive.. wen u see an n/a pulling 12's.. u sperm ur pants dont u? but wen u see a boosted car pullin 12s.. its something u see everyday so its like meh?

[[ricer]]

bcozz n/a is more impressive.. wen u see an n/a pulling 12's.. u sperm ur pants dont u?

lol no mate...

[locote]

sitting at a set of lights in a turbo teg next a aussie v8 powered car, and adsolutly destroying him while your front tyres are lit up..
that defenetly makes me CREAM my pants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[dc4t]

']lol no mate...

n thats y ur name is ricer ;) :)