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Mz Integrra
06-03-2006, 08:16 AM
Hi guys, I'm after people's opinions as to WHY I always seem to have this bubble problem with my tyres. I got a camber kit installed to help combat this problem but it's still happening. :confused:

The most recetn example of bubbles in my tyres was on the weekend when I was driving home, my ride was extra bumpy and the car was hard to control.
I took it to a tyre place on Saturday, only to be told my 2 front tyres have bubbles, and the back ones are starting to do the same thing. :eek:

The guy took one of the front ones off for me and showed me the bubbles and I nearly freaked out. More than 1/2 of the tyre is warped.

Has / does this happen to anyone else? What causes it? Should I get my camber adjusted again?

Also, if anyone from the shire can recommend a good tyre place - I want a brand name but don't want them to cost me an arm & a leg.
So far I've been quoted $244.50 per tyre for Dunlops (215/40 - 17) :eek: And considering im going to need 4....that's a hell of a lot of money.

BIG`O
06-03-2006, 08:26 AM
you get what you pay for.
what suspension you running?
maybe try a smaller wheel?
tyres are definately not something to go tightass on - could save your life:)

Cvik_ryda
06-03-2006, 08:27 AM
hey man try to buy 2nd tyres first to check if its your camber. dont spend near 1 K on the new tyres and then get them bubble (if it is your camber that cause it).

ek4-guy
06-03-2006, 10:42 AM
Are your tyres the correct weight rating for your car cause tyre blisters are usually from excessive heat.
Also check they are the right sort of compound for Australian roads and temperatures.
If the tyres are right it has to be wheel alignment but id look at other things first. As you said the back ones are doing it aswell and they shouldnt be out of alignment unless you have changed them aswell.
Then i would be looking for things that were done to both front and back suspension settings

Mz Integrra
06-03-2006, 10:53 AM
Thanks for ur replies guys :)

Big `O - I dunno what suspension my car has lol

Cvik ryda - Im just gunna bite the bullet and shell out the money first go. I don't trust 2nd hand / retread tyres. That's just me though.

ek4-guy - I just got told about the weight ratio now via the phone. I think that might be the problem with my current tyres. The people I got my last set of tyres from probably thought 'she's a chick, she doesn't know anything so we'll just chuck anything on her car, get her money and be done with it' :thumbdwn:

I feel like going back and showing them what crap they're selling to people.

e240
06-03-2006, 11:09 AM
Are these bubbles on the sidewalls? Could you get a picture of this?

Unless its a manufacturing fault, most sidewall bubbles are due to some sort of impact and damage, i.e. hitting a kerb etc.

Mz Integrra
06-03-2006, 11:12 AM
I'm going to get pictures of it when I get home. And no I haven't hit a kerb or anything like that!

Kandy
06-03-2006, 05:17 PM
what are bubbles on tyres!? Wah, I'm getting scared...

ek4-guy
06-03-2006, 05:20 PM
they are called tyre blisters

mrwillz
06-03-2006, 05:57 PM
oh ic
r they like wot u wud call 'eggz on a basketball' like that?

xplod_accord
07-03-2006, 07:26 AM
yeah any1 have pics?
this is new to me too :P

Mz Integrra
07-03-2006, 09:45 AM
I've tried taking pictures, but they don't come out well .... u can't see what I'm talking about.

Basically, what it looks like is 'lumps' in the tyre sidewall. When you look at the tyre side-on, you can see these 'lumps' and the tyre looks out of whack.

EDIT - found a pic online, sort of what I'm talking about, only mine aren't so bad!

http://www.members.aol.com/jamesl1013/tires/bubble.gif

SiReal
07-03-2006, 09:50 AM
just for the sake of others, and for future reference, what brand of tyre are you running? are they lower quality tyres or good tyres but wrong rating?

ek4-guy
07-03-2006, 09:52 AM
this what they look like after the layer peels off

http://omor.com/dc/ti/tires/134.html

Tobster
07-03-2006, 10:00 AM
Depending on your driving style, it can also be the result of hard braking and locking up the wheels (sliding will result in flat spots and bubbles) -- tyres don't like drifting and hand-brakies... ;)

TRU32U
07-03-2006, 11:07 AM
mmmmmm well check your side walls on the tyres it shold read...
205/40/17 89 (V) (W)(Z)
atleast the number after 17 should read 89 or more
if not it sounds like ur wheels are rubbing against something check if theres enuff clearance.
if your in need of tyres i can hook you up with some at a good price:)
happy to help a fellow OH
proberally able to get cheapo brands at 100 110 per tyre branded tyres start at 130

Mz Integrra
07-03-2006, 11:52 AM
Tyres I've got on the car at the moment are silverstone. I have no idea about them being the wrong rating, although it's a possibility. I'm feeling like I got jipped big time :thumbdwn:

For the record, I haven't run into and kerbs,nor have I done any drifting lately loll jks jks.... I'm a good driver! :p

TRY32U - my tyres are 215/40/17 83.... but the back ones are 215/40/17 87 :confused: I'ld prefer to get brand tyres than cheapo ones. If you want pm me the details. Thanks!

Da1nONLY
07-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Tyres I've got on the car at the moment are silverstone. I have no idea about them being the wrong rating, although it's a possibility. I'm feeling like I got jipped big time :thumbdwn:

For the record, I haven't run into and kerbs,nor have I done any drifting lately loll jks jks.... I'm a good driver! :p

TRY32U - my tyres are 215/40/17 83.... but the back ones are 215/40/17 87 :confused: I'ld prefer to get brand tyres than cheapo ones. If you want pm me the details. Thanks!


its the driver! ;)
bubbles!! lol...
get it aligned Anna..
215 on an integra is quiet wide!

iamhappy46
07-03-2006, 06:26 PM
You have the wrong weight loading tyres, that is why your getting 'tyre bubbles' The tyre dealer who sold them to you should be SHOT!!

I also assume that you run about 30~36psi of tyre pressure... if so DONT, the extremely low profile series tyres such as yours require about 40psi to get the volume of air inside the tyre and allow sufficient cooling.

205/40R17 Nankang NSII are $120 at Tempe Tyres, I prefer Hankook Ventus K104 Sports for about $160. 240+ for Dunlops is a rip off no matter where you go.

Mz Integrra
07-03-2006, 09:36 PM
^ ^ I agree. I do feel like going to the tyre place that I got my wheels from and demanding some sort of 'compensation' but I don't think I would get very far.

My tyre pressure is always 42psi.

Where do you get those Hankook ones for $160? Tempe? I don't see myself going there for tyres.

iamhappy46
07-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Check what load rating your car has from the factory. Pretty sure it is 89...
Have you still got the receipt for the tyres they fitted??
Does receipt list what tyres they put on and that they were fitted to your car??

If so, Department of Fair Trading will get a majority of the cost of original tyres back for you. There is no way you should have to pay for a tyre when the weight loading was lower than standard specification!!

First, Talk to the tyre shop and ask for heavily discounted replacement tyres or your money back + repairs to the damaged wheel rim! otherwise your going to Department of Fair Trading/A Current Affair. Sure its a hassle but why should you have to pay for the tyre shops mistake??

I had a guy on the central coast(while I was on holiday) fit the wrong 20" tyres to my X-Trail which split the sidewalls 3 streets away, mangled up my old 20's and I was FUMING!! They fitted new 20" rims in a design that I liked that they had in stock, fitted the correct tyre and gave it a wheel alignment for free...

Hankook K104's should be available for roughly the same price everywhere. Also try Toyo's

adammet04
07-03-2006, 10:30 PM
I had tyre warping on my tyres which were firenzas.
so i wouldnt go those

I had issues left right and centre with hankooks

I now run yokohama v505's with nitrogen in them, they are awesome tyres so far (20k of driving)

look at the yokohamas too

Thanks

ACTI0NMAN-1
07-03-2006, 10:40 PM
i never realised there was such a science to tires.

TRU32U
08-03-2006, 07:22 AM
mzvtec, u go pm yo!

slidetaker
08-03-2006, 12:46 PM
I have the same situation too...only difference is my the tread of my tyres are start to peel off!!!!.....they are Michelin Pilot Primacy 225/50/17 running 38psi hot......what's wrong....these are suppose to be very good tyre...