5th gen civic sedan rims help

[shaun1982]

hey guys. i currently have 195/50/r15 on my civic sedan. the suspension ridehieght is stock.

my cousins friend is sellin 17" white rims. they look similar to these http://www.jaydm.com/c8.htm

what i want to know is, is 17" ok for my car. if i get 17". will ihave to do any suspension mods. cause i have to do any modifications so run these rims smoothly without any problems. i wont get them. he is selling it very very cheap. including tires. the tires are brand new.

it came of a nissan 180sx. he bought the car. but doesnt like the rims.

so i asked my cousin for the size of the rims. but fitting 17"s in a civic sedan. will i encounter any problems if i put them on a stock height and stock suspension.

he is sellin them for $500 bucks. including tires. my car is grey. so im also wondering it white will suit my car. if not, i can always spray paint it.
thanks. help will be appreciated alot.

thanks

[shaun1982]

also. this is another topic i wanna ask u guys. when i bought this car 2 years ago. it came with a 2.5" exhaust pipe. my car is auto and i hate the sound of the exhaust. and im only getting around 350 km pertank. normal driving.

would the 2.5" give crapper fuel ecconomy and awfully loud exhaust sound.

i changed the muffler to a baffled muffler. it lowered it abit. but still its very loud. i am kinda sick and tired of the sound. when i look underneath. the 2.5 pipe is only up to the cat converter.

if i change the pipe back to a smaller pipe. will it remove completly the sound. cause i want it completly stock. or very very close to stock. i dont mind abit of a sporty sound. but only if i trash it full on. but for normal driving. i dont want to even hear the sound. and if i do change the pipe. would it be cheaper to go to the wrecker and get a used civic pipe or go to a exhaust shop and buy a new pipe. my muffler is still good. i just need a new pipe.

and what diameter should i get. and what type of pipe. i dont wanna spend alot of money. i am on a low budget. i dont wanan spend much for my car anymore. only for rims really. remember. very very quiet. very close to stock sound.

thanks

[civiceg9]

better check the rims PCD , Nissan is usually 4x114 while your Civic is 4x100

as for the sound, find a 2nd hand OEM exhaust.

350km a tank, I think u need to get your car check. Unless u redline the thing all the time. oh yeah 17" rims will make your car drink more.

[shaun1982]

whats PCD.

when u say OEM exhaust. do u mean the pipe. so should i just go to a honda wrecker and look for a 5th gen civic sedan vti exhaust pipe. would u know how much would that cost, and how much u think it woudl cost to weld and put it on.

yeah 350km a tank. its awful. my friends auto 2001 prelude vtir is gettign 400km a tank. im not kidding. i got a k&n airfilter. and just the 2.5 inch pipe. i read the 2.5" is way to big for a civic. no i dont red line it. i never do that now... i just drive it normal. i try and not accelerate fast.

do u knwo the OEM original size of the pipe
will 17" drink more. u serious.

[civiceg9]

PCD is your stud pattern.

OEM original exhaust, there are some ppl that sells on the private parts forsale section.
so you can bolt on and bolt off. The Vti model is around 2inches I think. 1.8-1.9" to be exact. if you require a new piping will cost you anywhere between $1XX-$200. depends how much work needs to be done.

as for teh fuel problem, get your car check. even with an a 2.5" exhaust(which is not too big, but 2.25 is the ideal size for N/A) is drinking way too much.

17" will make the car drink abit more due to weight and rotating mass.

Use the search function up the top and you can find all your answers.

[shaun1982]

hey, my cousin said, the guys who is selling it. has a 180sx. but it didnt come with the car. the previous guy included it on the sale. the current owner of the car, said he doesnt want the rims. the rims are 4 stud.

my cousin said, he iwll sell it for $400 bucks. with tires. the tires still new. i just wanan know. if i do ge it. can i just put it on. i dont have to do any suspension mods.

[Dr4g0n]

dude, you need to check what the distance is from stud hole to stud hole on the rims. if you don't know what PCD is, google search "wheel PCD" or something and read what it is so you can do the measurements and determine whether you can use the wheels or not. If the wheels are multi-stud pattern, most likely you can put them on your car.

fitting 17's on an eg sedan is ok but if you lower the car too far, you may get scrubbing on the inside of the rear wheels coz it'll scrub the body. I have 17"x7" wheels on my sedan and my car is very low. check to see what size the wheels are in terms of width too (look around the wheel to see where it says 17x?, usually on the back of the wheel).

you don't need to mod the suspension but if you don't lower the car, it will look ridiculous with big 17's on it. think of a how 4wd sits with the big gap between the wheels and you'll get the idea.

get your car checked out (service, change fuel filter, etc) coz you are wasting way too much petrol. i have a vti and i get about 500km's out of a full tank. i only have a pod filter for mechanical mod. even when i had a turbo on the car, i would get about the same fuel economy.

[incoming]

if the rims are multi-stud (ie 4x100 & 4x114.3) they will fit

make sure all 4 rim width are same

usually nissan owners have wider rims on the back

[Nuttz]

if the rims have the 8 holes in them like the one in the link it will fit. maybe see if you can put them on your car first before you buy.
if your car isnt lowered the rims will go on with no problems. your car will look high though.
if your car is too loud go to a wrecker and ask them how much its gonna cost to buy a second hand standard exhaust system. They maybe even able to put it on for you with a fee...of course.

[Zdster]

The easiest way to check is to measure. Your civic 'should' be 4x100. Take the said wheel and measure from the centre of one of the 'holes' diagonally across the rim to centre of the other stud hole. It will either read 100 or 114.3 mm (I think there may be another distance/pcd but cant remember). From memory I think the 180sx is 4(holes)x114.3.

[Paul1985]

The easiest way to check is to measure. Your civic 'should' be 4x100. Take the said wheel and measure from the centre of one of the 'holes' diagonally across the rim to centre of the other stud hole. It will either read 100 or 114.3 mm (I think there may be another distance/pcd but cant remember). From memory I think the 180sx is 4(holes)x114.3.
If this is too difficult, just test fit the wheels to your car!
Its not that hard.

Also, just go buy a full stock sedan exhaust from the wreckers.. They are just bolted on, very simple to install.. before you do so, check under your car and see if any welding was used to install the 2.5" though.

If it is too difficult for you to remove, then have someone install the stock exhaust for you. Take the stock exhaust you purchased from the wreckers to an exhaust specialist.. they should only charge you like $60 (whatever they charge per hour).

IMO 17" are too big on a EG, i used to have them on my sedan with my car slightly lowered.. this was in my ricer days. It scrubed a little but not excessively.

[civicCXI]

make sure that the rims has the right offset for your car. If the offset is a bit bigger than the factory, then there's a good chance of scrubbing (specially if you lower it by 1.5"+ and the car is full. With the right offset, fitting 17" onto your car is not a problem

Check your air filter, fuel filter, spark plugs to improve the fuel economy.

And I agree, 2.25" exhaust would be the optimum size for your car. If you don't want loud sound, get some resonator and if your muffler is a straight through one, change it to twin loop or something.

[shaun1982]

hi, my muffler is a baffled muffler. when i look underneath my car. between the muffler and the cat theres a hotdog shape thingy. is that a resonater.

so, but the hot dog shape isnt big. its small. will i b able to add another resonator. or can i just buy a bigger or longer resonator. does a resonater really help alot. how many percent does it help. cause if i can reduce the sound at least 60 percent with a resonator, i will go and get one.

cause my cousin has a silvia. and he has a stainless steel exhaust. the the soudn was LOUD. the cops pulled him over. he told me he got a hotdog. is that a resonator. cause it lowered the sound. but his sound is too loud for me.

and if i can get another hotdog or replace my one to a bigger one.

regarding the spark plugs and fuel filter. i have to change them. i had the car for 2 years. i havent changed the sparkplugs and fuel filter. with teh spark plugs. do i have to get the very expensive ones. the ones that cost $20 each. what do u recommend for my single cam vti civic.

also. the fuel filter. where is it located. some cars are at the bottom end of their car. is my one in the engine bay. is it the one near the firewall.

thanks for all ur replies

[shaun1982]

also. i just checked. the length of the hot dog on my car is around 9 inches.

[Dr4g0n]

don't worry about resonators. they won't quieten the sound enough. you're better off getting a mugen twin loop style muffler (xforce make one for cheap). the sound will be very quiet and apparently it doesn't lose much power. i had one on my turbo civic and it was all of the above.

[civicCXI]

average spark plugs will do for your car. Unless you higly mod ur engine, there's no need to get racing spark plugs.....save $$$

[Ru$kI]

Mate, I've got a 96 EK sedan, and i put 17"x7" rims on it....with stock height you should have no problems at all....only annoying thing is it actually raises your car a bit...all civics as far as i know have a 4 stud pattern...so any wheel that has holes = 4, 8, 12etc will be fine on your ride, just make sure its 17"x7"...since 17"x7.5" will scrub.

As far as the exhaust...i bought the Xforce twin loop...and am so damn happy with it....its nice and quiet when your crusing around...daily driving...but after a while (30 min) of drivin...it warms up...so if u put ur foot down...ull hear the damn thing roar up. In my mind its the best street muffler around for its price due its practicality...plus the fact that u get a sweet sound wen u put ur foot down (only when its warmed up tho...its pretty quiet otherwise if the engine is cold)

As far as colour matching...i have a navy blu sedan and i also got white rims....i've seen white rims on a silver body....looks hot....dont worry about a respray...unless ur body paint is goone

[Dr4g0n]

ruski, what you on about? 4, 8, 12 holes? there are different pcd patterns for 4 stud holes. 4x100 and 4x114.3 are the common ones. civics have 4x100 so if you have wheels with 4x114.3 stud pattern, they won't fit. simple as that.

[shaun1982]

hey guys, i went to the exhaust place. they said, that my muffler is still a straight through muffler. i though its was a baffled one. well i was wrong. stupid me.

but i changed it to a baffled muffler. he gave me a very cheap price, cause his wife used to know my mum and teached my sister when she was young.

so now, i got the baffled muffler. i love it. it is soo low, but until u trash the car, its sounds nice. thats what i want. i am very very happy with it.

but now i got a question. regarding the spark plugs. my friend used to have a honda civic vt sohc. and he now has a prelude. so he has a set of four NGK BKR6E-11 spark plugs. he gave it to me. is it ok for me car.

cause my engine is a D16Y1 engine. my car is a 1994 civic sedan vti. i saw on the engien bay. it says my chassis is a EH9.

when i looked at a NGK book at the stores. it says that the D16Y1 engien is for the honda civics from 95-2000. but mine is a 94. i think late 94.

i am sure my engine is a d16y1. so is this spark plugs ok for mine.

thanks

[Paul1985]

I would advise you to just take it to the mechanics for a service.
You say you havent changed plugs or your fuel filter in 2 years??

Have you checked any of your fluids i.e oil?

Best to just get a full service and that way its all covered.

[Ru$kI]

ye my bad, forgot 2 mention bout the pcd.....what i meant with 4 holes, 8, 12, etc. is like for example my rims have 8 holes...but they still fit the civic 4 stud pattern (as long as the pcd is correct)