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huynh12345
14-03-2006, 12:03 AM
I was wandering if my eg5 that mechincally fuel injected can run off the efi way of injection???

If soo how much will it cost to convert.. is it hard to convert it urself(DIY), and lastly i would like to say..b4 u shot me
I have done the search and when searching for "efi d15b4" SOOO NERHHH !! u cant shot me

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 12:08 AM
EG5 is a Si or a Vti civic.

they are both EFI.
not carby

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 12:18 AM
oh gees then what have ive been driving all this time? :( its a 92 civic but im not sure what it is ohh gess im don't even know what car im driving .. sighhs how can i tell what it is ?

egads
14-03-2006, 07:42 AM
by what youve said. its probably a GL. eg4

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 08:16 AM
wells thanks egads thanks for telling me =D

now can someone tell me if u can run a twin carb engine on efi components

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 08:24 AM
not worth. the trouble

EuroDude
14-03-2006, 08:27 AM
um, no. If your fuel system is a carby, you will need to do a Carby->EFI conversion which can cost alot of money.

Whats the engine model?

Open the bonnet and look at the front-left of the engine above-right of the gearbox and you should see a rectangular surface with D15xx or something. It may be covered with grime so clean it off with a rag/tissue first.

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 08:31 AM
its a d15b4

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 08:35 AM
u HAVE a GL twin carby shit box :D

welcome to the club

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 08:42 AM
how much just for the conponents for efi cause ill be to convert it anyways for my own agendas

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 09:05 AM
mate your can not run EFi fuel system
your engine itself is mechanically feed.

how much price?
just do a search.
ibut i can tell ya less tan 500 for everything

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 09:20 AM
ohhhhh kk =D

chicken8
14-03-2006, 09:28 AM
for $500 u can buy a D16Y engine already

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 09:29 AM
but then im investing in a b series motor just wandering if i could just go eletronically feed for the mean time

bennjamin
14-03-2006, 10:10 AM
but then im investing in a b series motor just wandering if i could just go eletronically feed for the mean time

no i dont think you can effectivley convert ur d15b into a EFI powered car...its not cost effective anyway.
Just drive ur car into the groudn and save save save save for a conversion etc.

EuroDude
14-03-2006, 10:22 AM
Or maybe look for a front cut from an Si or Vti and transfer the engine/efi into ur car.

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 10:59 AM
nahhh i was put off by what my friends say about d series 'carby' engine and u cant get much from them soo might as well start off with a little better base then my current engine

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 11:05 AM
well mate by the time u convert your shit box twin carby motor :p
you would probably buy a B16a straight out

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 11:06 AM
lol it cant be that expensive

bennjamin
14-03-2006, 11:06 AM
Just drive ur car into the groudn and save save save save for a conversion etc.

.......

EuroDude
14-03-2006, 11:09 AM
Fair enuf, yeah B Series is the way to go but its gonna cost you an arm and a leg.

The 130HP Si engine (D16A8) is actually quite quick in your 1050kg Civic (expect 8sec or less 0-100km) - plus these engines are much cheaper than a BSeries. It'll be much quicker than your 1.5 SOHC carby thats4sure.

Worth thinking about...


And yeah, "Just drive ur car into the groudn and save save save save for a conversion etc." :thumbsup:

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 11:12 AM
hrmms yeah i was after that vti and turbo'ing but then my mate .. told me off for sacrificing handling for more hp :( and yeah it was much cheaper option then b16a with n/a mods

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 11:13 AM
Andrew21 and krassvy did a SOHC VTEC convertions into their carbies
and i believe they got it done cheap.

i recontly did another B serise conversion
but not cheap. getting too dear these days.

cost are
150 for the EFi tank
110 for the EFi lines
400 for the rear brakes ( recomended)
3.5K for the B16a halfcut (EG)

so that's your basic price guide.

of course there was no labour as i did it myself.
but dudue seriously your joking if your gonna change your twin carb to EFi.
not a good idea.
save up and get a EFi engine and everything
or go for the b serise

ps. turbo handling be suffered as long as u know how to drive it

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 11:19 AM
hrmmz if u have done it urself .. i was wandering what tools are need besides the obviously like a good spocket set, screw driver set,engine hoise ,jack , jack stands??

plus i found a b16a2 w/ 108,xxxkms on it for 2g's
it includes;
Engine
Wiring Loom
Ecu
Extractor
Front brake and caliper

but im not sure what else ill be needing
i had a chat with the guy on the phone but not sure if thats it .. i heard the gearbox on b series are like stuck on the back of the block but not to sure anyone want to clear it that up for me?

[[d a n n y]]
14-03-2006, 11:23 AM
that's pretty much it
but from the stuff u got there

u need a gearbox
shift linkages.

gear box is not stuck to the back of the block it's
attached next to the box
if u look @ the engine from fromt on
it'll be on your left side.

huynh12345
14-03-2006, 11:34 AM
thanks for clearing that up hrmmz would you happen to know how much gearbox , shift linkage are?? ohh by the way it isnt a half cut it comes in a package but yeah..

hrmmz ive been researching alot and done a fair but of prep' work and found this workshop manual u properly know of it .. that honda.co.uk

it didnt have 92" civic but there is one for the 95-97 civics on how to remove the engine .. is it the same with my engine

also if u got heaps of exp with gl > vtir conversion just wandering if you are from melbourne i can pay u to come help me out when i get started and wandering how long would my car be off the road if its like start to finish how much man hr would be needed to finish it

[[d a n n y]]
15-03-2006, 01:16 PM
sorry mate i aint in MELB
ofcourse i can help ya over the net / msn etc

pm me if u want my contacts.

anywayz. the b16a removed from the 95-97 EK model will fit your car
but you'll need EG6/DC2 B serise engine mounts for starters
you might need a OBD1 -> OBD2 converter.
as yours is a carby you'll have to use the EK firwall wiring and use the converter.

huynh12345
15-03-2006, 02:24 PM
hey are all engine mounts in d series and b series the same danny?

i thought the ecu from a ek4 was a p28? plus where would you find a obd2 converter is it a program or is it like another ecu?

[[d a n n y]]
15-03-2006, 10:12 PM
nah the D serise and B serise mounts are different.
only the front right side is the same. ( botls on the gearbox.)
EK4 can have a P28 or a P30 ECU but most JDM ECU's are P30's ( Rare as and $$$ too)
ODB2 to OBD1 coverter is a little plug converter. it's a hardware not a software.

huynh12345
15-03-2006, 11:21 PM
hrmmz so with the mounts i got to get how many more ?

btw when u were doing the conversion .. what else did u needed (tool wise) besides the obvious.. like socket set , driver set , jack /stands , engine hoise ..? anything other then that?

[[d a n n y]]
16-03-2006, 09:57 AM
that is pretty much it

there are 3 main mounts and 2 supp mounts.

2 supp mounts are

a/c and gearbox mounts.

3 are located on the side of the block and @ the rea of the block.

huynh12345
16-03-2006, 10:41 AM
soo danny .. which one of my eg4's mounts of them 5 can be use

bennjamin
16-03-2006, 10:48 AM
soo danny .. which one of my eg4's mounts of them 5 can be use

only the drivers side gearbox mount. Rest need to be B series to suit your engine bay...

huynh12345
16-03-2006, 10:48 AM
ohhh okay =D wells ill msg u guys when i get started

[[d a n n y]]
16-03-2006, 01:59 PM
let us know :D