View Full Version : quads in a b18c R
jdmTYPE R
22-03-2006, 11:12 PM
i ve just installed quads in my b18c r today.its all good but running to rich gonna get tuned on friday cant wait to hear the sound of the vtec...:) and hopefully be ready for the ozhonda trackday in april.
heres some pics
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/vilain/EG%20TYPER/qsrquads.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/vilain/EG%20TYPER/installedquads.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/vilain/EG%20TYPER/installedquads1.jpg
r`Geno
22-03-2006, 11:18 PM
Lovely...I expect 1:13, no more.
Omfg....................................
Omfg....................................
*nods nods*
edw-R
22-03-2006, 11:36 PM
WOW... Is it stock internal?
Slow96GSR
22-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Nice and clean.
jdmTYPE R
23-03-2006, 12:04 AM
internal still standard got a b20 with ctr toda head getting ready to be put in just working stage buy stage coz i wanna see the progress of the mods
ekslut
23-03-2006, 07:37 AM
What brand throttle bodies are they?
Let us know the results
faijai
23-03-2006, 07:44 AM
damn kiet!
i wanna hear this thing roar at wakey next month!!
should be fun
ProECU
23-03-2006, 08:00 AM
What engine management is going to drive those ITB's ?
Benson
23-03-2006, 08:00 AM
awesome work http://ozhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbs_up.gif
fatboyz39
23-03-2006, 08:07 AM
What engine management is going to drive those ITB's ?
i heard he was running a apexi power fc, might be wrong tho.
What car is the motor in? EG?
What cams will you be running? Looks good...
weezer
23-03-2006, 08:50 AM
4ag quads?
barefootbonzai
23-03-2006, 08:51 AM
looking good
ProECU
23-03-2006, 10:06 AM
All i'll say on the ITB's is that the transition from low to high manifold pressure is much much less friendlier than with a intake manifold.
Whoever tunes it needs to take this into consideration or else you will have bogging issues.
saxman
23-03-2006, 11:38 AM
All i'll say on the ITB's is that the transition from low to high manifold pressure is much much less friendlier than with a intake manifold.
Whoever tunes it needs to take this into consideration or else you will have bogging issues.
hopefully they're smart enough to use a hybrid map/tps map...
I don't think I'd even consider trying to run an n/a itb set up only on the map sensor.
Dylanamus
23-03-2006, 12:14 PM
Pitty the intake is at the back of the engine. Although here's just a random idea that came to mind... Looks like you've got plenty of room behind the horns to build a directional airflow box. Fom side on it would look like an L shape .. cut a hole out of your bonnet and build a little scoop. CAI of the century. If I had the cash for ITBs that's something I'd consider.
bennjamin
23-03-2006, 02:13 PM
woudl u run a splitter for the MAP sensor , and run a 1/4 average ? or how ?
This would be a bitch to tune methinks
aaronng
23-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Got a question. Do you put on individual air filters or an intake plenum connected to a filter? Or do you run them naked?
weezer
23-03-2006, 02:54 PM
i would run 1 large filter over all 4 ITBs. I hear people lose quite a bit of power with individual filters.
ProECU
23-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Weezer, thats something we can test with Bao when he's ready!
Dylanamus
23-03-2006, 03:04 PM
You two also go to Bao hey?
ProECU
23-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Why wouldn't you? The Guy is a legend...
jords
23-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Did you buy them from Jap Connections? Looks hot, how does it perform?
jdmTYPE R
23-03-2006, 05:10 PM
it is in a Eg sedan running a power fc it also has an adaptor for the map sensor and cold start control valve and the tps also get pluged onto the manifold pretty much everthing that is connected onto the standard manifold is used on the quads.i think tuning will be a bitch..
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/vilain/EG%20TYPER/mapsensor.jpg
map sensor
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/vilain/EG%20TYPER/icv.jpg
cold start control valve
ProECU
23-03-2006, 05:15 PM
Golden Eagle do a very nice vacuum manifold...and its cheap
weezer
23-03-2006, 06:32 PM
Weezer, thats something we can test with Bao when he's ready!
*cough* My car *cough*
[DCEIVR]
23-03-2006, 07:27 PM
So many nice Honda's coming out of the woodworks...look forward to seein some footage of this beast
JDC5R
23-03-2006, 08:06 PM
That Is Fooken Nice
edw-R
23-03-2006, 08:08 PM
Nice job !!
todaek9
23-03-2006, 09:45 PM
track day in april? Sydney or Melbourne?
I heard Melbourne there is one Asian Car Race...Calder park..
Golden Eagle do a very nice vacuum manifold...and its cheap
but no adapter for the IACV and map sensor
saxman
23-03-2006, 10:18 PM
adapter for the map sensor? run a line from it to the vacuum manifold from the map sensor... easy
as for the iacv, it's not too hard to make one.
not when u enjoy an easy daily driver.
spetz
28-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Has it been tuned yet?
jdmTYPE R
29-03-2006, 05:21 PM
cant be tuned until the end of this week
:(
pg_vtec
30-03-2006, 08:58 AM
How much were the quads??
does any one know is aus who sells them or any1 in syd that makes them for the h22a..
and after you get it tuned tell us how much power difference u have..
congrads
ONE600
06-04-2006, 01:32 AM
Ive been running quads for a very long time.... like an exhaust system, the power gains you get depends on how bad the factory one is. i.e how ristrictive the factory one is.
Be prepared to bunnie hop like crazy, throttle response is greatly increased. Induction noise will be very loud but will sound pretty mean. Tuning isnt a problem for most good tuners these days and dont be suprised if ur car is more fuel efficient afterwards.
In my opinion quads is the last thing you should touch on an engine. You wont gain much if u just stick it on a stock engine. But it really wakes ur engine up if u have cams, high compresion, computer.
NEVER run them nakes as it will shorten ur engine life heaps!
link to my setup:
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/62155/size/big/ppuser/10491
bennjamin
06-04-2006, 12:54 PM
do you have a dyno plot on that ZC/d16a8/9 setup ? What cams are u running ? what custom header is that ? etc
jdmTYPE R
07-04-2006, 10:09 PM
im so disapointed power fc cant tune the quads as there isnt enough vacum for the map senser to read i need to run a computer that uses tps..
ATSEK4
11-04-2006, 07:04 PM
im so disapointed power fc cant tune the quads as there isnt enough vacum for the map senser to read i need to run a computer that uses tps..
Is that a must to have a vaccum and cold start valve?
Go for Hondata
todaek9
11-04-2006, 08:50 PM
MOTEC is the way to go if you are going to Quad's your engine...
ewendc2r
12-04-2006, 02:39 PM
Do you want to sell the Power FC?
saxman
12-04-2006, 03:09 PM
Is that a must to have a vaccum and cold start valve?
Go for Hondata
hondata is a horrible ems for quads...
honestly, you want something that can do a hybrid map/tps map... I know that the aem ems can do this... not sure what else can...
any ems can do a tps only map... just requires a bit of creative wiring and a lot of creative tuning(map and tps are both 5v input sensors)
ATSEK4
12-04-2006, 03:12 PM
hondata is a horrible ems for quads...
honestly, you want something that can do a hybrid map/tps map... I know that the aem ems can do this... not sure what else can...
any ems can do a tps only map... just requires a bit of creative wiring and a lot of creative tuning(map and tps are both 5v input sensors)
are you talking about HONDATA S100 or S300. or they all crap for quads?
i heard S300 dun require vaccum and mapsensor. can u be more detail on the word "horrible"
like is it hard to tune? or Hondata is not suitable for quads?
saxman
12-04-2006, 03:17 PM
when tuning quads, you ideally want something that can doa hybrid map/tps map(basically using map sensor vacuum readings for low throttle/load, and tps throttle readings for higher throttle/load). With hondata, you can't do this(unless things have changed in the past few months that I'm not aware of)... as such, it's really not suitable for a quad throttle body set up.
ATSEK4
12-04-2006, 03:28 PM
when tuning quads, you ideally want something that can doa hybrid map/tps map(basically using map sensor vacuum readings for low throttle/load, and tps throttle readings for higher throttle/load). With hondata, you can't do this(unless things have changed in the past few months that I'm not aware of)... as such, it's really not suitable for a quad throttle body set up.
so it means if i go for AEM i will gain more power comparing with Hondata?
saxman
12-04-2006, 03:49 PM
so it means if i go for AEM i will gain more power comparing with Hondata?
no, it means the car is likely to run WAAAAYYYY better, give better economy, and probably save you a lot of money in the tuning process...
oh, it'll probably make more power too
ALLMTR996
06-11-2006, 09:03 PM
when tuning quads, you ideally want something that can doa hybrid map/tps map(basically using map sensor vacuum readings for low throttle/load, and tps throttle readings for higher throttle/load). With hondata, you can't do this(unless things have changed in the past few months that I'm not aware of)... as such, it's really not suitable for a quad throttle body set up.
Have you tuned a S300 Hondata with a 4 throttle manifold? I know of one that was done the other day and the owner could not be happier with it,and I am now told the new Romeditor4 software is released so all S100/200 hondata's have user's choice to loadvsRPM settings.Which means no drama's at all doing multi throttle setups for all Hondata uses.SAXMAN not having a go at you just reread the dates on this thread and it was from months ago and alot has changed in ECU's since then.Did this car get tuned yet on the Power FC or have they wasted there money upgrading to another ECU.
ALLMTR996
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