[Euro]40,000km service....

[Ferrarista]

I think i just got ripped off, it cost me $500 including curtosy car.

Apparently 40,000km is a big service where they check the valves or something like that and you get a oil and oil filter change.

And they still havent solved my hard starting problem :(

Has anyone else done the 40k service on a euro?

[EuroAccord13]

Yes, at 40000kms a valve clearance check and adjustment is in order..

Your quoted price is about 100 dollars more than what I've been quoted.

This service will cost more as checking the valves is time consuming....

My other advice if you want to save some money, take it to a mechanic you trust...

[Spec83]

Gee i better save up for the 40k then now :) - on a related note i had the hard starting problem when i got the euro 4 mths ago - told them at the 1k service and all they did was reset the starting program in the computer (or maybe they reset the whole thing cant remember)...... Problem solved :)

[Ferrarista]

Yes, at 40000kms a valve clearance check and adjustment is in order..

Your quoted price is about 100 dollars more than what I've been quoted.

This service will cost more as checking the valves is time consuming....

My other advice if you want to save some money, take it to a mechanic you trust...

Well i did pay for a curtosey car and new windscreen wipers which equated to $92 in total.

I guess it was on par though, i dont want to take it to a mechanic...ide rather honda do it and they gave me a nice Accord curtosy car.

[Eurotony]

I had my 40k service done in July last year & it cost $412.00 including the use of a loan car. I do also supply my own oil, so I guess that you can add maybe another $50 or $60 for oil, so I guess your'e not that far off. I always ask for a quote before every service. Ring around & check prices from other dealers if you feel it's too expensive.

[euro04]

I think i just got ripped off, it cost me $500 including curtosy car.

Apparently 40,000km is a big service where they check the valves or something like that and you get a oil and oil filter change.

And they still havent solved my hard starting problem :(

Has anyone else done the 40k service on a euro?


Hi!

Just had the 40K last weekend (04 model standard Euro) and the cost was $398 INC. I am in western Sydney and had it done at a dealer... They supplied all parts, including oil.

[SAMBO456]

i just had my civic serviced at my local dealership. It was a 40,000km service and i also got slugged just under $500 for it. I asked for a verbal quote as i booked that car in over the phone, big mistake. I was quoted just under $400. Honda servicing is a rip off.

[Ferrarista]

Hi!

Just had the 40K last weekend (04 model standard Euro) and the cost was $398 INC. I am in western Sydney and had it done at a dealer... They supplied all parts, including oil.

I went to Trivetts

I also got a courtesy car and my wind shield wipers replaced.

[jacks1]

Hey I just had my Euro serviced in Melb. 40K - $450 but this included $36 of additives. I hate when they include these. The dealer I go to never included these before but suddenly they do. Apparently you have to tell them not to include them - but how can you tell them when you don't know they have changed their policy to include additives with every service. Not happy - made my point with the manager. He didn't give me a refund though. Are additives a waste of time? Might start a new thread....

[euro04]

I went to Trivetts

I also got a courtesy car and my wind shield wipers replaced.

Drove an extra 20 mins or so to Penrith...Only had my first service at Trivetts...

[XQISIT]

Thats pritty expensive.

[PNR888]

I went to Trivetts

I also got a courtesy car and my wind shield wipers replaced.

Hey, How much did they charge you for genuine Honda windscreen wiper blades? is that only the rubber bit? or you have the matel bit changed as well?
$92 for courtesy car and wiper blades is expansive... (unless the you have the metal part of the wiper changed too)
In Brisbane, a loan car usually around $40/day

[jjmason]

considering if your read the honda owners manual it says "use of non genuine additives is not required and will only increase the running costs of your vehicle" maybe show that to the manager

[my_vtec77]

Hi!

Just had the 40K last weekend (04 model standard Euro) and the cost was $398 INC. I am in western Sydney and had it done at a dealer... They supplied all parts, including oil.

Hi euro04, which dealer you did your 40K services? $398 is good price. I'm in Sydney too. I've quoted $490 from Trivetts Honda and $550 from Larke Hoskins. Geez...

[tony1234]

Hey I just had my Euro serviced in Melb. 40K - $450 but this included $36 of additives. I hate when they include these. The dealer I go to never included these before but suddenly they do. Apparently you have to tell them not to include them - but how can you tell them when you don't know they have changed their policy to include additives with every service. Not happy - made my point with the manager. He didn't give me a refund though. Are additives a waste of time? Might start a new thread....
That happened to me a few years ago with a Subaru i used to own.I questioned the additives and they gave me some bulls3it about how good they were and so on.I said they were put in without my consent.I also said is it part of the scheduled service to which they replied no.I then refused to pay for them.It was deducted from the bill.Bottom line.These additives are a waste of time.all they do is line the pockets of the companies that manufacture them.:thumbdwn:

[martizzle]

could we on this forum create a list of the best priced honda dealerships to take your car to around australia ( starting with melbourne and sydney of course :p ) Maybe by doing this we might be able to force them into doing a uniform price across to board in servicing. i think the majority of us like to take our cars to honda for servicing, it's such a peace of mind.

[tony1234]

could we on this forum create a list of the best priced honda dealerships to take your car to around australia ( starting with melbourne and sydney of course :p ) Maybe by doing this we might be able to force them into doing a uniform price across to board in servicing. i think the majority of us like to take our cars to honda for servicing, it's such a peace of mind.
I think that's a good idea.You need to be carefull how you set it up and how you word the posts.The mods would know about this!!!

[yfin]

could we on this forum create a list of the best priced honda dealerships to take your car to around australia ( starting with melbourne and sydney of course :p )

The problem is best price does not equal best service...

[europro]

Just for the record I had my last company carVY Commodore (with good old Australian build quality) serviced at Alan Mance Melton. I said to the service tech 'I dont want any bullsh1t additives throkwn in at premium prices. He was quite surprised and asked me where i went previously that did it. I said i'm not lagging on dealerships and just don't do it. His reply was that if Holden dealerships get caught up in this racket there was serious consequences and that the custom went out the door quite a while ago due to customer anguish and contemp.

Good point, to mention the decent dealerships and throwing around prices. I will usually ring 3 dealerships in the area and get the one I am satisfied with as a price guide. I will also let them know that i dont want brake pads once i have seen them myself and not be told by them that they are required.

I think with the Honda name there is a certain company ethic to uphold and also the perception of the brand name to protect.

[Rice_4_life]

isnt there a similar thread dissin honda dealers? and after u sign the document the SA can authorise small cheap shit he thinks is necassary (eg wiper rubbers,ect.) if he cannot contact you via your phone no.

[europro]

Yeah you are right. I am just a tight ar5e and so all the wiper stuff myself that s where they pick up the incidental service dollars from. Wipers blades from bosch are $12 from supercheap, dealer price $26. I once purchased Honda oil and filters at trade price and left them all in the front seat. You should see the SA's face when I let him know the're there! They then get an inkling not to muck me around.

[Rice_4_life]

if that's the case why don't you jus go out and buy all Non-genuine parts dump em in ur front passenger seat and jus ask them to charge for labour?

[aaronng]

^^ That's what I do. The SA said it was fine as long as I told them I was bringing my own oil and parts when making the service appointment.

BTW, badmouthing dealers is a no-no. But recommending them is alright. So if you have a dealer that you have had a good experience with, you can post it up. Do note that any negative discussion of a dealer should be done without naming them. If you want names, keep it to PM.

[Rice_4_life]

^^ yeh do that but dont bring it back and complain about sumthin u bought and had them install, so mny times did this happen jus pisses me off, most occur on non genuine brake pads and following of complaints braking efficiency isn't as good as it was before !@#!%!%

[tony1234]

if that's the case why don't you jus go out and buy all Non-genuine parts dump em in ur front passenger seat and jus ask them to charge for labour?
Genuine parts( service items)are reasonable price.Why bother going non genuine particularly if car is in warranty!!

[aaronng]

^^ yeh do that but dont bring it back and complain about sumthin u bought and had them install, so mny times did this happen jus pisses me off, most occur on non genuine brake pads and following of complaints braking efficiency isn't as good as it was before !@#!%!%
At the moment, the only thing aftermarket has been engine oil. But when it is time for my brake pads to be replaced, no way am I going back to the Honda ones. They are very bad (for the Euro). Usually people go to supercheap and buy that $40 special pads, which are totally crap. I'll be getting proper adhesion/abrasive pads which should maintain braking friction up to high temperatures.

Anyway, I change my own pads.

[martizzle]

anywayzzz, my poor 03 euro is due for it's 120k i'll be ringing around the melbourne area and when i find the best price i'll post up the dealers location. (is that ok ?) No bad mouthing here just getting the best price out there...like the news with fuel prices. :)

[europro]

I cant see anyone bagging dealers here! My comment was actually a good rap for Alan Mance Melton. Whats more the SA didn't bag other dealers either.

As for genuine parts, yes to the oil filters, brake pads and other hardware items but wiper blades and the small stuff non genuine will not affect warranty or compromise the car.

[aaronng]

If you like the dealer and have positive feedback, post the name. If it is negative, then go through PM.

[tony1234]

I cant see anyone bagging dealers here! My comment was actually a good rap for Alan Mance Melton. Whats more the SA didn't bag other dealers either.

As for genuine parts, yes to the oil filters, brake pads and other hardware items but wiper blades and the small stuff non genuine will not affect warranty or compromise the car.
OEM brake pads are crap.Go some good high perf. street pads.I did,BIG difference.:thumbsup: Wiper blades i'd go OEM.They fit exactly,last a long time,work well and how often do you change them anyway??

[Rice_4_life]

ask for tradee prices :P 10% off FTW!!

[tony1234]

ask for tradee prices :P 10% off FTW!!
Yeah.I get 15/20% off all Honda spares.Guy i bought car off intro me to spares manager.:thumbsup:

[Rice_4_life]

Yeah.I get 15/20% off all Honda spares.Guy i bought car off intro me to spares manager.:thumbsup:


nice, i just score cheap deals off parts where i work holden and honda parts :D

[tony1234]

nice, i just score cheap deals off parts where i work holden and honda parts :D
Yep.Any discount is better than nothing:D

[my_vtec77]

Just had 40,000k service in Great western Honda in Kingswood. It's quite far. Charged me $390. It's cheapest price i found so far. Artarmon honda quoted me $900, rip off.

I have to change front disc rotors coz they have brake shudder. but it's free.:p

[martizzle]

how much is the trade price (wholesale) for the oil filter, do they mean air filter when they say air cleaner element? how much is that anyway (would it be more cost effective to get the hks panel filter?), what type of brake fluid do you's reccomend, and manual trasmission fluid, engine oil im gonna get motul. and if i provide them all that should i just be paying for the labour? if so how much do they charge an hour? thanks...one more thing... has anyone else got a euro with 120klicks on it or am i the first?? :)

[tanalasta]

The oil filter is only $12 when servicing at Honda.

I would use only Honda OEM brake/transmission fluid. The only non-Honda fluid I would use is windscreen washer and engine oil. I am running Motul 8100 5-40w in my Euro without any difficulties, having run in the car on Motul 4100 semi-synth. I am tempted to give Mobil 1 (gold bottle fully synth) a try though... except I do not think $80 every 6 months for oil is justifiable.

If you provide all the parts, yes they deduct it off the cost of your servicing. It is very unorthodox for someone to bring in 'all' the parts rather than just engine oil. Labour is the most expensive part of most services anyhow.

[martizzle]

The oil filter is only $12 when servicing at Honda.

I would use only Honda OEM brake/transmission fluid. The only non-Honda fluid I would use is windscreen washer and engine oil. I am running Motul 8100 5-40w in my Euro without any difficulties, having run in the car on Motul 4100 semi-synth. I am tempted to give Mobil 1 (gold bottle fully synth) a try though... except I do not think $80 every 6 months for oil is justifiable.

If you provide all the parts, yes they deduct it off the cost of your servicing. It is very unorthodox for someone to bring in 'all' the parts rather than just engine oil. Labour is the most expensive part of most services anyhow.

thanks for the ideas, what about if your car is no longer in warranty would you service it yourself?

[tony1234]

tanalasta.How much is the Motul 8100 5-40,Is is full synthetic?......Thanks.

[my_vtec77]

thanks for the ideas, what about if your car is no longer in warranty would you service it yourself?

That's right. The only reason we servicing in dealer is we dont wanna break warranty. In dealer, they even charge for disposing old oil and other waste.

[tanalasta]

Motul 8100 is fully synthetic. Motul 4100 is semi-synth.

The former costs $65. The latter $45.

[ZEi20T]

i was just quoted $595 at Eastwood Honda (Sydney) for a 40k service. i might shop around. it seems the further west you go, the cheaper the services get! But getting there and back is the hard part :(

[Ferrarista]

I cant even remember making this thread!

Anyway i just di my 60,000 service and it cost $303

[tony1234]

Yeah,it pays to make a few calls for prices every service!!!

[Atjo]

At the moment, the only thing aftermarket has been engine oil. But when it is time for my brake pads to be replaced, no way am I going back to the Honda ones. They are very bad (for the Euro). Usually people go to supercheap and buy that $40 special pads, which are totally crap. I'll be getting proper adhesion/abrasive pads which should maintain braking friction up to high temperatures.

Anyway, I change my own pads.
Aaron, what brake pads you're using now? or which brake pads is good for euro othethan the stock one? I almost reach 40K now i might ask them to change the brake pads for me as well.

[ZEi20T]

if anyone could tell me what i do in a valve clearance test and adjustment ill do it all myself and wont bother with a factory service. its out of warranty so it wont matter one bit to me. damn i keep meaning to find the service manual again........

[aaronng]

Aaron, what brake pads you're using now? or which brake pads is good for euro othethan the stock one? I almost reach 40K now i might ask them to change the brake pads for me as well.

I'm still on the stock pads. Still lots of pad life left in them. If I were to change, I'd go for Hawk HPS or Ceramic for price value, or Project Mu B-Spec or NR for performance.

[vtek]

if you havent done it before the K series isnt the easiest to get to when doing valve adjustments. Probly better to get it done at the dealership.


if anyone could tell me what i do in a valve clearance test and adjustment ill do it all myself and wont bother with a factory service. its out of warranty so it wont matter one bit to me. damn i keep meaning to find the service manual again........

[ZEi20T]

you know what, forget it. ill do it myself. i thought it was some hard task. but i used to do this with my grandfather on my mums old 120y!!

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15443

That link is gold!

thanks for the warning anyway vtek. i realise i was thinking of something completely different!

[_CiVIC_]

I'm still on the stock pads. Still lots of pad life left in them. If I were to change, I'd go for Hawk HPS or Ceramic for price value, or Project Mu B-Spec or NR for performance.

you wouldn't try EBC? green stuff or something?

[aaronng]

you wouldn't try EBC? green stuff or something?

Yuck.... they are too aggressive and eat through your rotors quickly if you like driving enthusiastically.

[stephen8512]

HAWKPADS are good aaron....
get the dust free ones

[_CiVIC_]

Yuck.... they are too aggressive and eat through your rotors quickly if you like driving enthusiastically.


ohhhhhhhhhhhh =/

then how about bendix?

[aaronng]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh =/

then how about bendix?

Bendix Ultimates are worse. They are more aggressive than EBC green and are a full abrasion brake pad. I'd prefer partial abrasion and adhesive pad. I'll go Hawk Ceramic

[_CiVIC_]

LOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL


hawk ceramic LOL... are they dustless pads?

[aaronng]

LOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL


hawk ceramic LOL... are they dustless pads?

Nothing is ever dustless. LOL

[ZEi20T]

heres something good. thanks to the honda one website, ive since found out that my car already had the 40,000km service done at 30,000 (weird) so all i need is an oil change! woot!

[aaronng]

^^ they would have charged you more at the 30,000km service if they did it though. Check your itemised receipt. Did they do the valve clearance check and air filter replacement? If it's not there, it wasn't done.

[ZEi20T]

i didnt own the car then so i have no idea. it only shows online that the 40k service was performed with 30k on the clock. i think the previous owner stuck to the time interval and not the km interval as the car wasnt doing many ks at all. i guess i can go into a honda dealership and ask for an itemised report of the service. maybe ill open the rocker cover and check a few tappets anyway. if they are ok (after 10k) then ill just leave it till 80k

[aaronng]

Check, because my car just did the 40,000km service at 30,000km as well because I don't drive enough. The valve clearance adjustment was not carried out because my tappets were not loud and I hadn't reached 40,000km. They wrote that in the receipt and also a note to carry out valve clearance check at the next service.

[ZEi20T]

ahhh point taken. yeah ok thanks i will check that. im 2 mins walk from a honda dealership so ill get the service history

thanks mate!

[BIGBLUE]

So Kingswood Honda seem the cheapest for the 40K service in Sydney!

Im amazed a switched on Sydney Honda service division manager doesnt get on the forum to increase trade and offer
people on the forum assurance of quality service at a reasonable price! ............simply amazing!