2006 Fosters Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne

[aaronng]

Hey! How come no one started a thread on this?

Let me start by saying that I MOLESTED the Scuderia Torro Rosso car.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1963/dscn99526vr.jpg

BTW, the brakes on the car are tiny! The disc is only 200mm in diameter!

[LUD02C]

I leave in 8 days!
Melbourne F1 GP here I come!
Schumacher victory, I'm calling it early...

[^^v]

Hey! How come no one started a thread on this?

coz theres still a week to go i guess lolz...

man anywayz..
melbz pretty hecktik atm..
comm games.. then GP....

[cam0]

leaving for melbourne on wednesday morning. 6:35am flight argh!!

[angelblue]

That is gonna such a killer having to be at the airport at 5:30 Camo! We'll all be sleeping on the plane!

[LUD02C]

I got to be at the airport at 5:30 as well.

[nEUROtic]

I will be drinking on the plane :)

[cam0]

yeh i'll be having an eye opener too

[angelblue]

Haha should I be thankful that I have separate seats to you guys :p

[nEUROtic]

**** Yeah Party @ 5:30!!

[kenshin]

hmm where's the best place to buy team merchandise?

i wanna get a super aguri top :)

[cam0]

i wanted a minardi shirt last year, they had nothing at the GP. dickloads of ferrari stuff and a bit of williams and mclaren stuff but that was about it. t-shirts start at $80.00.

[kenshin]

yeah sh!t at stands are expensive...

anyone know a place where they sell legit stuff at reasonable prices?

last year they offered free team shirt with jacket just before closing...
huge markup...

[angelblue]

Mmm i was going to say kenshin that if you're in melb there's heaps of merchandise places while the f1 is on but i dont know if they will have any super aguri stuff... are you in melbourne?

[angelblue]

Does super aguri have a dedicated website? WOuld they sell merch through that?

[cam0]

just buy a white t-shirt from kmart and a sharpie and write on it, "Sato is a bad driver"

[nEUROtic]

I will buy a white shirt and write "I am a better driver than sato"

[cam0]

"Sato: Rating 3 Driver"

[angelblue]

I will buy a white shirt and write "I am a better driver than sato"

Wear that on race day Dave :thumbsup:

[kenshin]

meh sato rules :)

[TwEigh]

Geez I hope perth build a better international circuit to replace crappy melbourne circuit that no driver likes :p

[nEUROtic]

they love melbourne! its got a reputation as a party track, like monaco but without the cocaine. They were all complaining at bahrain that they didnt get to start in melbourne ;P

[LUD02C]

camO I just bought a Minardi Pit Crew Shirt on Ebay for $20
Brand new and everything.

[kenshin]

who was the seller?

and whats the quality like???

[chicken8]

i have a BAR honda 2005 pit crew shirt if any1 wants to lease it off me for the weekend

how does $5 a day sound?

[LUD02C]

Seller name is Satipor
I've got heaps of F1 stuff from Ebay, all quality and real.

This is the Renault shirt I got for $30

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/jsianto/RenaultPB.jpg

http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/81/3c/48_1_b.JPG

This is my $19 Minardi Shirt

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/jsianto/MinardiBlkB.jpg

http://i11.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/68/ac/56_1_b.JPG

[LUD02C]

I hope more teams go out on Friday for practice.
In the Maylasian Gp, not many went out.

Then again, Melbourne not being a full time circuit, you'll need more and more cars out there to increase grip levels.

[kenshin]

that renault shirt looks wank man LOL

points to crouch and ass area ...

[^^v]

omgz i mite be goin to the GP after all..!
only Qualifying though.... dads got corporate box tix.. but hez only goin on Sunday... so herez hopin i can use it for Sat :D:D

[angelblue]

Well the time has come... tomorrow morning, we (Cam0, nEUROtic and myself plus two others) will be flying down to Melbourne, its going to be so much fun! If you're going, enjoy the race! If you're not, well... enjoy the race on tv!

[cam0]

see u at the airport bar for preflight drinks!

[JDM.Power]

lud0, you reckon you could get me the updated B.A.R tshirt, medium or large..off ebay?
and il buy it off you??
anyways back on topic,
i herd you can party on the track?

[TYPE-ONE]

Pole!

[nEUROtic]

Wooh thank you jenson button, you made us ninety bux!!

[JDM.Power]

ludo, im wondering if you have any picture of jennifer hawkins at toyota panasonic if so, pm me. thanks
alan.

[TheFranchise]

Does anybody know where i can listen to the race on the net?!?

If so, can you paste the link please.

Thanks guys

[^^v]

not sure bout listening..
but u can see the live timing with commentry ..
http://www.formula1.com/race/livetiming/753.html

[panda[cRx]]

about an hour till jensen starts raping the oposition :eek: :D :) ;) :wave: :cool: :thumbsup: :honda:

[kenshin]

did u adjust ur clock for daylight savings?

there's another 2 hrs to go :P

[panda[cRx]]

no i didn't (-_-)
so it's only 12.10pm now?

[aaronng]

Quick update, both Williams and both Ferraris crashed and out... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[jdm_kid]

honda blew up ... lol

[aaronng]

HOLY FKING BURNING HONDA!!!!!!! is that 20 meters from the finish line!??!?! Poor Button.

[jdm_kid]

Nos !!

[Menthu Rae]

HOLY FKING BURNING HONDA!!!!!!! is that 20 meters from the finish line!??!?! Poor Button.

OMG!!! SO BAD!!!! I had a feeling something might happen on the last lap... so close!!! SUCKS SO HARD!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :(

[panda[cRx]]

jensen's vtec fell off!! :eek:

wtf honda!??! seriously WHAT THE F*CK!?!?!??!

[underc35a]

unbelievable!!! From pole to blowing up just before the finish line!

[ECU-MAN]

honda went out with a bang 50 meters before the finish line

so cruel

[jackosimm]

lol thats the pits for Button!

[driven]

what a cruel ending for Honda! :eek:

[kenshin]

bring back sato san

[aaronng]

Do F1 cars have neutral? If they do, he could have used neutral and coasted through to the finish instead of locking up.

[ECU-MAN]

thats what I thought as well

looks like hydraulics control everything

even in nuetral the cant push a car that has a blown gearbox

[jdm_kid]

he hit special vtec yO!

[aaronng]

Blown gearbox yeah, because the gearbox is directly driven by the wheels. But if it is the engine that fails, there is the clutch between the gearbox and the engine. I think there is, because I've seen them push the car forwards and backwards into the garage while the engine is still running (on TV of course :p).

[TYPE-ONE]

i think button is a pussy. he doesnt drive aggresively enough. thats why he always gets shuffled down the order.

[dc2dc2dc2]

aaahaha...jenson....was robbed.... bloody unreliable honda's !!! :p

[underc35a]

its better not to cross the finish line so next race we get a new engine without the 10 grid penalty

[ECU-MAN]

no hydraulics, then no nuthing,
but in the regulations I think its mandatory that they must be able to select N so the stewarts can push the car,

I guess it all happens so fast, it was over before he relised it happen.

what I dont understand, why arnt they right up Alonzo'z ass when the pace car pulls in, he just pulls away.

[kenshin]

wasnt this button's 2nd race on this engine neway??

[ECU-MAN]

its better not to cross the finish line so next race we get a new engine without the 10 grid penalty

id take 6 or 7th anyday :)

[EGB18CT]

.....should send him down to ECU-MAN for a DIY to get the box fixed... :)

i was like no F#@&n way! had to happen so close to the finish line what a tease...
did he end up getting it over the line and get points???

[ECU-MAN]

no :(

.....

[chicken8]

button finished in 10th

dunno how that works

im so depressed. got the razer blades out

so i cut down the vein not across right?

[JDM.Power]

no hydraulics, then no nuthing,
but in the regulations I think its mandatory that they must be able to select N so the stewarts can push the car,

I guess it all happens so fast, it was over before he relised it happen.

what I dont understand, why arnt they right up Alonzo'z ass when the pace car pulls in, he just pulls away.

alonso is smart..he doesnt wait till the straight line, he hits the gas at a corner an just flys off.
while the guys behind him..swerving left and right..he has a chance of just putting the medal to the ground an leave them behind.

and that was a boring race, i got bored of it..after the crashes.
kimi was pulling in hard..if the race had atleast 5more laps..kimi would of made a good run to the finish line.

[ECU-MAN]

so i cut down the vein not across right?

yes yes down
make sure you use a new razor,

[mr_mojo02]

button finished in 10th

dunno how that works

im so depressed. got the razer blades out

so i cut down the vein not across right?


down the road, not across the street lol

[chicken8]

all F1 cars have a manual hand operated clutch this year due to the non existance of launch control

i would've thought jenson would've kept the car nice and straight. held up the clutch and rolled in for a 6th place finish

cause jenson's 2nd in WDC and 6th is still a fair few points

but if i was in the car when the car blew my gf would be fken cut about cleaning my underpants and my race suit

its just sad how u get so happy for honda pole position and then on the straight honda's in 5th and also i tipped fisichella for 6th in the tipping comp. its a triple blow for me. AND IT WAS MY DOUBLE ROUND

[aaronng]

its better not to cross the finish line so next race we get a new engine without the 10 grid penalty
Points are more important than the 10 grid penalty. As long as they can win even 1 point, they will go ahead.

[aaronng]

what I dont understand, why arnt they right up Alonzo'z ass when the pace car pulls in, he just pulls away.
Because the car behind Alonso was a lapped Midland. Midland = Minardi = Noob! Did you see one of the people from the Maclaren team go up to the Midland race coordinator to tell them to ask their driver to go closer to Alonso? LOLOLOL

[ECU-MAN]

yeah want it the dude from Toyota ???

but on the 1st pace car button should of been right up there,

the indy boys are always on the ball like that.

shakes head

[chicken8]

i think we should all sign a petition or sue jenson for pain and suffering

to sit thru pole position with no P2. then 1st SC and alonso goes 4seconds ahead right after SC pits

and then drop. drop. drop. drop. bam. brakes and stops 3m in front of finish

i think 6million would cover the pain and suffering it has caused me over the last 24hrs or so

[ECU-MAN]

lol

devide that by all the honda fans in this forum

we should all get AU$2.45

[chicken8]

lol

devide that by all the honda fans in this forum

we should all get AU$2.45

damnit. thats $1 short of a big mac

[aaronng]

I wonder if it is Jensen's fault. Even Barrichello was complaining over the radio that the brakes were terrible and that he was sufferring "like a pig." Maybe Jensen is having the same problem but is trying to work around it with his skill rather than complain. I hope Honda checks out Barrichello's complaints. It would make a better car!

[chicken8]

who got fastest lap?

my double points round is relying on this

[chicken8]

i think because of jenson's fight with fisichella for like the last 10 laps or so he was driving his civic pretty hard

and maybe after final corner he sees the line sees the chequered flag. puts his foot down and floors it and then engine blows or something

cause u could see that he finished the corner then smoke and flames came

and also i found it funny how montoya is such a wanker. "wasnt my fault. all of a sudden i got no power" fken columbian drug mule

[ECU-MAN]

the motor was blowing before the last corner, it was smoking before the last corner and fissi was slipping on the oil into the corner.

[EGB18CT]

since buttons honda blew up, honda should give us free parts for compensation.... sounds fair!

[ECU-MAN]

jensen says

he had fuel pressure problems during the race

[aaronng]

BTW, those who watched yesterday. Did you hear how they made the brake discs? Takes about 8 weeks!

[chicken8]

fisichella start from last position to finish 5th

BIG UPS!!!

[panda[cRx]]

i think button is a pussy. he doesnt drive aggresively enough. thats why he always gets shuffled down the order.

yet he brakes later on most corners later than nearly everyone in the field? :wave:

jensen is a mad driver, he just needs the car a lil better to compete with the renaults and mclarens

[underc35a]

BTW, those who watched yesterday. Did you hear how they made the brake discs? Takes about 8 weeks!

yeh they bake the rotors for 3 weeks then machine them then another 3 weeks in the oven. Crazy!

[ngupil]

button finished in 10th

dunno how that works



One of the guys from OzHonda pushed Button's car to the finish line :D

[ECU-MAN]

it was funny to see micheal run into the toyota shed to get away from the media :) after his fu.ck up

[aaronng]

yeh they bake the rotors for 3 weeks then machine them then another 3 weeks in the oven. Crazy!
From what I heard in the process, they put the carbon into a mould and then bake it at high temperature with pure methane gas. The carbon from the methane gas fuses with the solid carbon to increase the density. After 3/5 weeks they take it out to machine. After machining, they put it back with methane gas for another 3 weeks. Imagine to cost of heating up the discs for a whole 6/8 weeks!!! The reason they machine it halfway is because the discs are too hard to be machined after 6/8 weeks. :thumbsup:

[ECU-MAN]

pads are made by the same materials as the rotors

[chicken8]

yeh they bake the rotors for 3 weeks then machine them then another 3 weeks in the oven. Crazy!

dun they do that for all civics?

[StrawberryFace]

Damn Schumi. He just keeps on getting worst and worst every time. And when it seems like there's a glimpse of hope, it is all washed away in a spectacular catastrophe.

[NeRV]

man what a way to end for Honda... but button sure did put on a show on the last lap.. lol... now everyones gonna say honda's are unreliable

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/reuters/20060402/07/2460109222.jpg

GOT VTEC??? :eek:

[angelblue]

Bugger, I think I am going to be on 0 points at the end of the season still!!!!! Is there a prize for gaining such a great result!??

At one stage, I didn't think we would even have a top 8 with all the crashes etc. But it was a good race, except for the result! :(

[angelblue]

I'll post some pics once I get back home to Brisbane... I even got a pic of the inside of Trulli's car :) Pretty cool to see.

[chicken8]

it was my double round too

thank god alonso at least got me a point

but he didnt get fastest lap. what a loser. i could be on 4 points

[angelblue]

NEURTOIC - A good race, but alonso didnt die. Sucker

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

SHATTERED!! badluck button.. was the first f1 i attended & i loved it! totally maaad shiiieeet.. :)

[^^v]

man .. we're bak to where we were last year.... hopefully it was only for this round n they can get the tyre temp issue sorted out... first lap pace is shocking! :thumbdwn:
ffs... so shattered.. it HAD to happen in the final two corners...

bah...


EDIT: more on the story.. apprently they chose not to cross the finish line..



Australia: Three point gamble for San Marino win

http://www.sportnetwork.net/mainadmin/img/1691143978041.jpg


By Phil Huff - April 2 2006

Honda Racing F1 elected to retire Jenson Button from the Australian Grand Prix just yards from the finish line, choosing instead to sacrifice a potential three points for a fresh engine without penalty at San Marino.
Jenson Button's car started spewing flames, smoke and engine parts as he exited the final corner of the race and, with just seconds to come to a decision, his race engineer Andrew Shovlin declared that Button should not cross the finish line.

In issuing the order, the team chose to lose the three points Button may have got for finishing sixth, although Jenson doesn't feel he'd have made it to the line anyway.

"Two corners from the end I felt it was a little bit down on power, a little bit tight, and then coming out of the last corner there was a massive, massive fire and lots of smoke," explained Jenson. "I pulled over to the right to get out of everyone's way but it seized just before I got to the finish line. I stopped the car anyway as it wouldn't have made the finish line anyway."

Team boss Nick Fry spoke immediately after the race, saying It was a quick call by the race engineer, and we need to see if it was right later."

Speaking later, Fry added "Clearly what we will do, as we will do with everything, is have an evaluation of the situation. At the moment we feel it was the right decision.

"We lost points here but we can go to Imola with a clean sheet of paper, a new engine and improvements to the car. Hopefully we can turn it into a good race position next time around.

"We didn't hear anything on the radio or data about it, but Jenson said he felt the engine not pick up properly on the last lap through the fast corners at the back. He felt that something was not quite right, but when he saw the smoke he kept his foot in."

"He's less than impressed, but rightly so I think," he continued. "We've got a lot of work to do before we get to Imola."

While many commentators are suggesting that the team made a poor decision in potentially sacrificing these points, it's worth remembering that Honda Racing F1's target for 2006 is race wins, and not points. Historically, both Jenson Button and Honda have been strong at San Marino, home to the next race, and a fresh engine package without penalty will be a great benefit, especially considering that both championship leader Fernando Alonso will be on his second engine cycle.

[j3z3z]

i find it funny. M.S. going through the TOYOTA garage. You wouldnt expect a team to allow anyone from another team in their shed. Interesting considering all those rumors that TOYOTA are trying to poach him

[aaronng]

If for Imola they don't score at least 3 points, then it would have been all a waste!

[j3z3z]

If for Imola they don't score at least 3 points, then it would have been all a waste!

more like if they dont score more than 3! they should have taken the points and made button do a "kimi 1 stop special" im sure they garuateed some points that way. kimi always is

[aaronng]

more like if they dont score more than 3! they should have taken the points and made button do a "kimi 1 stop special" im sure they garuateed some points that way. kimi always is
If Kimi can go from last to 2nd, then why can't Button? Mercedes is more reliable than Honda?!

[Omotesando]

There was clearly something wrong with Button today from what I can see...

Even if his tyres were warmed up at the rare occasions, he wasn't running at a good pace. Only 7th best lap time.

Also, he wasn't even trying hard enough to warm up the tyres. Even Alonso could see this (as he said in the interview), and hence overtook Jenson after 1st Safety Car period as he was more aggressive with warming up the tyres.

These are the things which make a world champion - I expected more from Button!


What about Mark Webber? That was a bit unfair to him.

Anyway Williams are known to have problems during winter testing, for using their new, quicker but unreliable seamless gearbox.

[Hondavirgin]

What a fantastic race, i loved it (well, apart from being gutted when Fisi stalled on the grid!). But yeah, last to 5th isn't bad, and he was flying before the first pit stop, passed like 8 cars, one lap after another, not that we saw any of it. WTF is with channel 10!!!!

Great save as well on the last corner, all crossed up on button's oil with zero visibility, coz the oil on his visor. Someone said Button would have to change his underwear, what about fisi, he's all of a sudden 2 metres from a fireball!

Hopefully this race goes someway to correcting all the kimi fans and their "he is faster than alonso, just bad luck" crap. This was a straight race, and Kimi got beaten, he is not better than Alonos!, after every safety car alonso kept pulling away (even after MF1 gave them a head start) (oh, and btw, i think someone said MF1 was Minardi, they aren't, they are ex-Jordan, Toro Rosso are minardi).

I'm glad that BMW also pulled some points, we now have 3 or 4 teams for the wins, and 3 or 4 teams to fight for points....its going to be a great season.

But yeah, channel 10, 1. Do they not remember the backlash after they used their own commentators a few years ago?!, give us Brundle and Allen!!!!!! And also, the coverage missed the first restart!!! and no replays!!!! WTF!

[V8_Hero]

haha thats gotta hurt
Button's gotta be crying
literally the vtec fell off lol

but yeah was a great race, so many big shots got taken out, I was surprised. And Montoya...what a tool.

[aaronng]

(oh, and btw, i think someone said MF1 was Minardi, they aren't, they are ex-Jordan, Toro Rosso are minardi).

Oops, that was me. Yeah, It's Jordan, not Minardi. Still noob blocking drivers.

[chicken8]

new details

scott speed got docked 25seconds for ignoring yellow flags, which means he loses his 8th place and ends up in 11th

DC gets 8th and jenson gets 9th

sato also had some talking to by the stewards for ignoring blue flags

[kenshin]

sato is king !

[j3z3z]

sato is homo

[Omotesando]

I think Sato is a very fast driver too, but he was ALWAYS overshadowed and out performed by Button.

I mean, Barrichello is suffering from exactly the same thing now... he was never faster than Button during Winter Testing (except for 1 day from memory) and a lot slower than Button's race pace.


But yes Sato is a fag...

[quangsta]

it was funny to see micheal run into the toyota shed to get away from the media :) after his fu.ck up

maybe he was looking for his brothers shoulder to cry on... :p

[LUD02C]

Just a quick post for now (just got home from that stupid city called Melbourne, so damm cold)

Yours truley meet:

- Jacques Villeneuve
- Flavio Briatore
- Peter Windsor (F1 Magazine)
- Robert Kubica (BMW 3rd driver)
- Jimoen (the comedy bloke)

Action packed weekend, especially when Jenson Button's car let go (Highlight of the weekend)

[Omotesando]

maybe he was looking for his brothers shoulder to cry on... :p


Haha.... so possible lol.. :p

[LUD02C]

After reading this thread, no one has mentioned how bad Button is on the restart after a safety car.
It is basic karting rules, bunch the grid up and when you make the decision to go you out run them (so they don't get in your slip stream)

Jenson had 3 chances to get it right, each safety car he stuffed it, everyone goes on about how much better he is then Webber, I can't see the arguement leaning towards either driver.

Honda aren't the standout team this year, I think BMW are, the cars are so fast and both drivers stay out of trouble and just have a good race and collect points.

Massa, Rosberg, Klein, Michael and Montoya all had shocking afternoons, but thats motorsport.
Montoya spining on the formation lap was hilarious, seeing Ross Brawn laugh was gold.

McLaren are still the only team in the padock that haven't had an engine failure this year, Montoya's "offtrack" incident caused a default switch to cut off or something in his car which cuts the engine power apparently.

Kimi drove nearly 20 laps with a stuffed front nose didn't he?
I heard that it wasn't in good shape and thats why he was loosing so much time to Alonso in the first half of the race. Towards the end he was catching Alonso very quickly.

Poor Webber, in such a strong position to finish with good points and then a box full of neutrals (which happened were i was sitting)

Overall, great weekend except Melbourne has the worst weather in the world. I'll be bad next year (praying for it to be warmer)

[kenshin]

weather was perfect for 2 wks prior for the commonwealth games...

:P

[Omotesando]

Well I did say that Button 'wasn't' trying hard enough to warm up his tires again when he was behind safety car.... even Alonso could see that easily and hence got past him... haha

I think Button is very fast - but he doesn't have the 'intelligence' to become a world champion, despite the natural ability to drive


as for Kimi catching Alonso - well Alonso was only revving to below 18000rpm saving the engine at the end. It doesn't mean Kimi was as fast as Alonso, especially seeing that Kimi's best lap was near the end, with very low fuel.

Whereas Alonso's fastest lap, which only only 0.2s down on Kimi, was with a much higher fuel load..

[^^v]

After reading this thread, no one has mentioned how bad Button is on the restart after a safety car.
It is basic karting rules, bunch the grid up and when you make the decision to go you out run them (so they don't get in your slip stream)

true.. easier said than done though... the Honda is SHOCKING after restarts... first few laps he was 5-8secs off the pace! thats fkn ridiculous
i really hope they get this sorted out before the Euro leg kicks off.. its really hampering their efforts...
u could see this in Bahrain n Sepang as well... initial lap after pit stop was horrible..

[Omotesando]

When I was watching the race(s), I kept thinking what the heck is Button doing. Or NOT doing....

He doesn't even try to warm up the tyres. Too scared to pull a Montoya spin? haha :D

[^^v]

Buttons pole lap..
VIDEO: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XuyzCCL-mWY

[ECU-MAN]

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