Engine Oils - Which one - how long

[Ozwolfbane]

There are so many variety engine oils that just dont know

I was looking at buying :

http://www.valvoline.com.au/products_up.cfm?mode=product_info&prod_service_type=DIY&category=FO20

Valvoline XLD armour which says "synthetic enhanced" what does that mean ? is it semi - synthetic , fully or what ???

How many months / KMs can you get on Semi-Synthetic, fully synthetic,synthetic enhanced ??

Whats this Magnatec stuff how does that compare its pretty cheap

any other suggestions some pricing ??

I have a VTEC Honda Prelude 94


all valvoline oils :

http://www.valvoline.com.au/products.cfm?mode=cat3&category=FO&category_title=Petrol%20Motor%20Oil (http://www.valvoline.com.au/products.cfm?mode=cat3&category=FO&category_title=Petrol%20Motor%20Oil)

[Slow96GSR]

Watch out, they will say Valvoline is bad go with Castrol!!! Na, I love Valvoline and use it in all my cars. The bottle will explain what it can handle and for how long. I would get just regular synthetic Valvoline unless you need a additive that it doesn't have.

[aaronng]

I wouldn't put XLD in just because it is a 15w-40 oil. At most, I'd go 10w-40. 15w will have less cold startup protection.

[rollin_high]

go get the honda feo oil you twats its the best for fuel economy and performance,can be purchased from any honda dealer cheap too only $27 for 5 lts.

[Ozwolfbane]

anyone know if honda does a just oil change service ? and how much ?

[jun]

MOTUL 300V all the way man ~~~~~~~~~~
i have try endless ?w40 ~ :confused: (expensive)
castrol edge 5w40 ~ :thumbdwn:
(dun try, i use it less then 2000km and dun feel good with the engine)
now i m using MOTUL 300V 10w40 ~ and i love them, the engine rev faster, oil pressure is more stable, i will try 5w30 on my next oil change :thumbsup:

[EuroDude]

I think i'll stick with Honda FEO for my Euro...


Hey Honda is the largest engine manufacturer in the World, I think they know what oil is best for Honda engines :thumbsup:

[jun]

I think i'll stick with Honda FEO for my Euro...


Hey Honda is the largest engine manufacturer in the World, I think they know what oil is best for Honda engines :thumbsup:

well ... dun trust the manufacturer too much ... maybe they know wats best for engine, but sometimes they dun give the best for ur engine because the cost ... for example y the stock exhuast quality is shit??? y the stock wheel is so heavy? if they produce good oil, y subaru, nissan they r not using their own engine oil in JGTC and WRC??? y they use MOTUL engine oil??? its all because the cost is too much ~ :confused:

[lspower]

try 0-20w as you only live once....they are very expensive(mobile one gold)if you are rich who cares. It may or not drop the compression as according to some theroriests.
Its very thin and sliky.
Not untill you try it out you will never know. 0-20w in winter in australia....no worries MATE.

[aaronng]

If you are deciding between Valvoline XLD and Honda FEO, I'd go for FEO, because of the correct viscosity of 10w-30. It costs $27 for 5L from the dealer. Just buy the oil and then bring it to your usual place that you service your car at.

There is no point going for Motul 300V unless your car is a pure track car. Motul 300V's superiority is that it doesn't break down under harsh conditions. And you can only get those conditions when racing. And racing means 30-40 laps non-stop. On track days, you only do about 10 laps before stopping for a break. Also, we change our oils every 6 months/10,000km so the oil doesn't have a chance to break down with normal driving.

Even something like Mobil1 with extra longevity is wasted if you service regularly.

And jun.... Honda doesn't make FEO. Castrol makes it. Honda just tells them the viscosity and how long they want the oil to last.

And 0w-20 on a 94' Prelude... It's not that you only live once. It's the lude that will only live once after using the 0w-20. LOL.

[EuroDude]

I read that 0-20w should only be used for cleaning out the engine at low RPM between a proper oil change to remove the gunk in the engine, and shouldnt be used as a normal oil since it offer too little protection.

[aaronng]

I read that 0-20w should only be used for cleaning out the engine at low RPM between a proper oil change to remove the gunk in the engine, and shouldnt be used as a normal oil since it offer too little protection.
They do use it for race cars. But race cars get their engine rebuilt after each race.

[jun]

they use 0w20 on time attack race ...

and also some of the old engine r not recommand to use 0w20 such thin oil, so check with the manualfactory before u use

for my b16a, ?w30 is the thinnest i will try

[smoknhothonda]

I read that 0-20w should only be used for cleaning out the engine at low RPM between a proper oil change to remove the gunk in the engine, and shouldnt be used as a normal oil since it offer too little protection.

haha nah mate what you heard was utter shitttee

[smoknhothonda]

They do use it for race cars. But race cars get their engine rebuilt after each race.

I have been using 0W-20 for 4 years now in my 10 year old accord with no problems.

I get much better fuel economy compared to a 5W-50 Mobil 1, and has been dyno proven to produce more power also.

Reliability issues is bullshit, Porsche's run 0W-20 as per manufacturers recommendations.......... say no more!

[aaronng]

I have been using 0W-20 for 4 years now in my 10 year old accord with no problems.

I get much better fuel economy compared to a 5W-50 Mobil 1, and has been dyno proven to produce more power also.

Reliability issues is bullshit, Porsche's run 0W-20 as per manufacturers recommendations.......... say no more!
5w-50 is too thick. That's 2 grades above the recommended oil viscosity. No wonder you get better fuel economy and power over it. Honda FEO 10w-30 would also give better fuel economy and power over Mobil1 5w-50. BTW, That's the one in the silver bottle, which is not as good. The REAL Mobil1 comes in GOLD bottles, and is rated for 10w-30. And is also more expensive.

BTW, our cars are Hondas, not Porsches.

[lspower]

Good on you pal. Finally some one has been using 0-20w, May I ask you where did you buy it and what brand.

[jun]

MOTUL 300v do have 0w20 ... autobarn and repco sell it ~ but they r not cheap ;)

[smoknhothonda]

5w-50 is too thick. That's 2 grades above the recommended oil viscosity. No wonder you get better fuel economy and power over it. Honda FEO 10w-30 would also give better fuel economy and power over Mobil1 5w-50. BTW, That's the one in the silver bottle, which is not as good. The REAL Mobil1 comes in GOLD bottles, and is rated for 10w-30. And is also more expensive.

BTW, our cars are Hondas, not Porsches.

No offence mate but comparing a fully synthetic Mobil 1 oil to a rebadged castrol "produced to honda specs" mineral oil is like chalk and cheese.

What evidence do you have that the engine will produce more power, and use less fuel using the 10W-30 mineral oil over the 5W-50 Mobil 1?

Your damn right our cars arent porsches, but like most German cars, they are over engineered to some extent (this is what makes german cars so bulletproof and pricey!!) and I felt as though the comments you made about 0W-20 oils being unreliable, and only applicable to race cars was misleading to people considering such an oil.

Im sure if Porsche specify a 0W-20 for their engines it will perform to their stringent standards, and in your humble honda also....

lspower I have been using Fuchs Titan GT1

[aaronng]

No offence mate but comparing a fully synthetic Mobil 1 oil to a rebadged castrol "produced to honda specs" mineral oil is like chalk and cheese.

What evidence do you have that the engine will produce more power, and use less fuel using the 10W-30 mineral oil over the 5W-50 Mobil 1?
I'm not saying that FEO is better than Mobil1. I'm just saying that FEO will give you better fuel economy over Mobil1 5w-50.

Simple. Viscosity. If the film of oil between the rings and liner is more viscous, then you lose fuel economy. Of course, I'm talking about putting 5w-50 into Honda engines which are specified to run on 10w-30 (or 5w-30 in the USA).


Your damn right our cars arent porsches, but like most German cars, they are over engineered to some extent (this is what makes german cars so bulletproof and pricey!!) and I felt as though the comments you made about 0W-20 oils being unreliable, and only applicable to race cars was misleading to people considering such an oil.
Yes, Porsches are overengineered. That's why they can are reliable, can use 0w-20, produce good power, yet are more fuel efficient than say an equivalent Ferrari. But are our engines Porsche? You can use the 0w-20 in the Porsche no problem. Because the Porsche is overengineered. ARE OUR HONDAS OVERENGINEERED LIKE PORSCHES????

If someone does the same to their Honda and they experience engine problems, will you be the one covering the cost of their repair because they followed your advice? If you want to give someone advice on using something that is out of spec for their car, please tell them BOTH the advantages AND disadvantages.


Im sure if Porsche specify a 0W-20 for their engines it will perform to their stringent standards, and in your humble honda also....

I would agree if Honda engines were overengineered like a Porsche's. But since our Hondas are built to a target price and not like a Porsche where money is not an object, I will still advice AGAINST using 0w-20 in Hondas.

By your reasoning, 0w-20 oil would be good enough for Lancer Evos since it is good enough for Porsches. If you put 0w-20 in a Lancer Evo, you'd KILL it very quickly.

[Ozwolfbane]

so i can get a FEO and change it every 10'000 kms (12'000kms OEM recommendation ?) without any problems ? If i use semi-synthetic it will give me more Kms ??

[naf]

10,000 kms oil change should be okay with FEO if u dont push ur car alot... but after about 6000 kms, car fells abit sluggish with FEO

[aaronng]

10,000 kms oil change should be okay with FEO if u dont push ur car alot... but after about 6000 kms, car fells abit sluggish with FEO
I agree ^^

Same occurred with Magnatec. Now I'm on Formula R 0w-40. Still going good at 7000km.

[replaced]

I agree ^^

Same occurred with Magnatec. Now I'm on Formula R 0w-40. Still going good at 7000km.

Thought you was recommending Honda FEO, what exactly is Formula R? I've never heard of it :D

[aaronng]

Thought you was recommending Honda FEO, what exactly is Formula R? I've never heard of it :D
Haha, FEO is good enough for those who change every 5000km. Many people change their own oil and change it that often. I follow the 10,000km one. Formula R is made by Castrol is already discontinued. Now it's sold under Castrol Edge. I use the 0w-40. It's a PAO synthetic. Edge also has the 5w-30, that one is a hydrocracked synthetic. The 5w-30 one is cheaper.

[cdpfxz]

i use NULON 10W-40, i find it pretty good. hasn't been out that long, but nulon additives are the shit, and the oil seems pretty good too..

nic :thumbsup:

[smoothdc_5]

I use Castrol Magnatec. I reckon Magnatec is the best for all cars - including Honda. You can really feel the difference at start-up.

[**Ghost**]

Mobil 1 Synthetic

imho the best u can buy off the shelf without going through contacts and getting "special" oil

[E-Honda]

cant go wrong with FEO, good for all season