93 XSi

[wkdteg]

is the model code for the XSi DA9 or DA6?
reason being that i left a deposit on a car which has a b16a in it, which made me think it was an XSi, but the chasi number is DA9? so im not really sure wat it is. if it is an XSi, could sum1 point me in the direction of specs etc...
searching hasnt exactly helped
cheers

[90xsi]

da9 is AUDM Ls model

da6 is JDM XSI model,

they probably imported one and swapped everything over.

-Interior is slighty different (color)
-electric folding mirrors
-digital climate control
-B16A stamped on engine (not B16a1 etc etc)
-Not 100% sure but check rear LCA
(mine has eg6/dc2r style ones) not sure if standard

-i think later model Xsi's had ABS aswell.

[wkdteg]

sweet... wat bout power power stats of the b16a?
also, dude it DA9 or DA6?

[preludacris]

is that the grey one ?? ??

[IN73GZ]

im pretty sure the Xsi is a da6.
man my mate has xsi import sittin at his house, ill check it out 4 u and find out to confirm but im 85% sure its da6.
and yeh the differences have been pretty well covered as per above

[Spoon DA9R]

DA9 doesn't always mean its not JDM i use to drive an import integra LS and its DA9...it really depends on the year....in america they call it Xsi as well....actually there are so many models of xsi..i've even seen one with no sun room no power window everything is manual.....

[wkdteg]

is that the grey one ?? ??

yeah its grey

[wkdteg]

im pretty sure the Xsi is a da6.
man my mate has xsi import sittin at his house, ill check it out 4 u and find out to confirm but im 85% sure its da6.
and yeh the differences have been pretty well covered as per above

thanx dude
appreciated
so the most likely scenario would b that its an aust delivered LS, but its had a b16 conversion?

[90xsi]

chances are good, as the XSI Model is a Da6 (as i stated above)

yeah there are also da9 imports but very similar to out LS (if not the same)

also in the US there is RS,LS,LS-S,GS,GS-R, :eek:

then theres the JDM - XSi,RSi,ZXi,RZi,TXi :eek: :eek:

:confused:

[wkdteg]

:eek: how freekin confusing is that!!!
LoL ill investigate it further if i get the car
any1 know how much power n torque im lookin at with this engine?

[Spoon DA9R]

just don't understand..why on earth they created so many different model names for the DAs.....

[string]

just don't understand..why on earth they created so many different model names for the DAs.....
You could apply the same logic to the commodores... Different features, different engines and what-not.

[wkdteg]

You could apply the same logic to the commodores... Different features, different engines and what-not.

grrr i was just bout to write that!!!
LoL

[FR33K]

if you were lucky to pick up a 93 Xsi then ull have the 125kw engine (as opposed to the 118kw)

[wkdteg]

if you were lucky to pick up a 93 Xsi then ull have the 125kw engine (as opposed to the 118kw)

finally... sum1s answered
thanx dude... so im assuming its only a 7kw difference... is that between the gen1 b16 and gen2 b16? or is there a difference between those 2 aswell?

[string]

if you were lucky to pick up a 93 Xsi then ull have the 125kw engine (as opposed to the 118kw)
No. They were only 158hp, i.e. 118kw. The only other Vtec engine in those models was the B17A1 in the GS-R, which is rated at 160hp, i.e. 119kw.

[FR33K]

sorry buddy... go do some research

[wkdteg]

yeah that sounded a lil wrong string
wats the redline for the 118kw b16? and when does the vtec kick in?

[FR33K]

The XSI Received a facelift and minor alterations in early 1991; the front and rear bumpers were replaced with slightly different versions and the B16A engine was upgraded to produce 170HP due to a larger throttle body (58 vs 60mm) higher compression ratio (10.2:1 vs 10.4:1) and slightly more aggressive camshafts.

[tinkerbell]

FR33K is right in post #14!

the 1993 DA VTEC Integra was ALSO OBD1...

(little known fact ;) )


wkdteg - i owned a jap spec B16A DA9 - but i am not sure it was an XSi... it might have been the RSi model...

here is a good place to look at JDM stuff:

http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/integra/9it-ka-904a/index.html

[FR33K]

thanks tink lol we had this argument about 3 years ago :D

[wkdteg]

thanx tink... but i cant read jap :confused: LoL
so wats the difference between the XSi and the RSi (Repetative Strain Injury)?
so the jap spec car u owned was a DA9 and not DA6?
these chasi codes r confusing me :confused:

[tinkerbell]

thanks tink lol we had this argument about 3 years ago :D

yes, you are still one of the few people on the internet to have ever proved me wrong, LOL!

wkdteg - yes, it was a "DA9" chassis, but fully fitted with ALL jdm parts, the B16A in the engine bay looked factory...

even had pressed steel 'boxed' rear lower control arms (not cast) and ball mount shocks - this is an EASY way to tell if it is original JDM, as i doubt ANYONE would goto the trouble of converting the rear suspension, especially when the easy way to convert a LS integra is to buy only a 'front cut'...

my DA9 integra also had the digital climate control, "Gathers" brand rear speakers, NO SUNROOF, electric folding mirrors, DOHC side mouldings, spoiler mounted brake light, japanese writing on all the parts like fusebox & sun visors (even the doors had jap stickers on them saying 'please lock door' or something!)...

these are jsut a start for you. if you can identify all these parts/accessories, you are for sure getting close to an authentic JDM Integra :thumbsup:

[LO_N_SXC]

yes, you are still one of the few people on the internet to have ever proved me wrong, LOL!

wkdteg - yes, it was a "DA9" chassis, but fully fitted with ALL jdm parts, the B16A in the engine bay looked factory...

even had pressed steel 'boxed' rear lower control arms (not cast) and ball mount shocks - this is an EASY way to tell if it is original JDM, as i doubt ANYONE would goto the trouble of converting the rear suspension, especially when the easy way to convert a LS integra is to buy only a 'front cut'...

my DA9 integra also had the digital climate control, "Gathers" brand rear speakers, NO SUNROOF, electric folding mirrors, DOHC side mouldings, spoiler mounted brake light, japanese writing on all the parts like fusebox & sun visors (even the doors had jap stickers on them saying 'please lock door' or something!)...

these are jsut a start for you. if you can identify all these parts/accessories, you are for sure getting close to an authentic JDM Integra :thumbsup:
Hey Tinker

My LS has those type LCA in the rear and as far as I know mine used to be a Demo car for Honda back when it first came out, another thing I have also noticed is that most Tegs I've seen have diff color interior aposed to mine which is all Black, another thing I have noticed is that mine was built in April 89 and its serial number ends in 0000048!

Could this mean that mine is either an Import model or JDM? also would the 0000048 mean it is one of the first DAs built? :confused:

[tinkerbell]

my DA9 integra also had the digital climate control, "Gathers" brand rear speakers, NO SUNROOF, electric folding mirrors, DOHC side mouldings, spoiler mounted brake light, japanese writing on all the parts like fusebox & sun visors (even the doors had jap stickers on them saying 'please lock door' or something!)...

these are jsut a start for you. if you can identify all these parts/accessories, you are for sure getting close to an authentic JDM Integra :thumbsup:

the important word is underlined and in bold

does your car have ALL these attributes?

BTW - all Integra's were "imported"

what the correct and more meaningful questions to ask actually is: "is my car a Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) model?"

if your car was indeed a "demo car" for Honda Australia, it clearly was not a true JDM model...

but yes, it was one of the first ever built, perhaps before the had finalised the cast for the rear LCA's... so i guess it is not sucha good indicator for JDMness...

[LO_N_SXC]

Cool thanks man that clears heaps up for me, I just would have thought that mine could have probably been a JDM model then been guised for the AUS market or something? but since it is one of the first then it is more of a rarety than a JDM most likely the first 47 must be @ the wreckers by now????

[tinkerbell]

well, Number 48 is pretty much "one of the first" of many 1000's of LS Integra's :D

[Spoon DA9R]

hahah true true so alex...stop being so proud about the 47th integra...although u can

[LO_N_SXC]

hahah true true so alex...stop being so proud about the 47th integra...although u can
Hey I got the right to! :p

Has any one noticed the Torino red XSI on Carsales.com??? sum one needs to buy that asap, i shall see if I can find the link for yall.........

[preludacris]

did you guys see the LS with s2k engine , and RWD going for 20 grand ?? heheh

that thing would go hard .. ;p

[wkdteg]

thanx for all the help ppl
i picked up the car this morning... it didnt have the digital climate controls, which pretty much means that its not a jdm XSi. its just a normal DA9 with a B16A fitted.... doesnt mean im not excited though hehe VTEC every shift!!!

[tinkerbell]

got pics yet????

or in a new thread?

[wkdteg]

nah not yet, had reports and tests commin out of my rear end. hopefully get a shoot done this weekend if the weather holds up. i deffinatly need some before shots, as it was fully riced, and i need 2 make it my own. besides in goin 2 the body shop soon.
ill get it done asap

[Redteg]

Going back to Tinkerbell's old teg, I'd say it was an RSi, the 'sportier' teg.

Here's a quick scan, I'll try to scan more soon. Compare the pics!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~akarayiannis/jdm1.jpg

[wkdteg]

is it just me or does the RSi have the analgue AC controls?
man the interior styling of the RSi is mint!

[Redteg]

Ye, RSi air con looks just like our AUDM tegs,and it looks like it has no power mirrors (according to the sales brochure)

According to this the engines available were limited to the B16A and something called a 'Hyper 16-valve' offered with EFI or dual carb.
All the pre-facelift models:

3-Door:
XSi
RSi
ZXi
RXi

4-Door:
XSi
ZXi
RXi
ZX Extra
ZX
RX

Pleb editions also had 13" steelies!

[wkdteg]

more info bro!
LoL whered u get the brochure from?

[Spoon DA9R]

oo mine looks a bit like the RSi for the interior hahaha.coz its light brown too hahaa

[Redteg]

My fiancee found it on Ebay many moons ago. Some guy in the UK was selling it.

I'm on holidays as of today so I'll see if I can scan it all. It is all in Japanese though, but it has great pics.

There are no pics of brown interiors in there, they may have saved them for the Americans ;)

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~akarayiannis/integrabook2.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~akarayiannis/integrabook3.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~akarayiannis/integrabook4.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~akarayiannis/integrabook5.jpg

[Spoon DA9R]

i wonder if i can still find those floor mats

[majic777]

heyy looks like the jap ones have adjustible seatbelt height thingy

[Spoon DA9R]

i know...wish i can get it too

[wkdteg]

yeah, the american seat belt thingies r so much better
they hang off the roof of the door thingy
so when the door opens, the seat belt moves forward, when it opens, the belt moves back, and u dont need 2 actualy do ur seat belt... does it automaticly