Having a sub forum for Accord Euro.....

[Xplodin]

Hey,

Any chance of this happening because, every time im in the accord section its all about the euro. euro this, euro that...... I dont have a problem with it or anthing, but practicly the euro is pretty much a class of its own. yeah it still falls in the accord family but still a class of its own. Anyway just my 2 cents...

John

[toE]

This has been discussed before already, however the situation now has grown, ie. more Euro owners are joining up.

Let's see what others have to say about this, while the Mod Team have a discussion about this too :)

[Chris_F]

There are quite a few members with Euro's now. There's no reason why a Euro sub-forum wouldn't work. And it'd stop us having to put [Euro] at the front of every thread we start.

But I'm easy either way, happy to go along with what the majority decide :thumbsup:

[SiReal]

Agreed. I thought about this the other night. It would be handy for a Euro sub forum.

[Zdster]

The problem with doing this, is that every model has a sub-model. Where would you stop?

Civic - ek, eg
Integras - da, dc2, dc5
Accords etc etc.

[Q_ball]

Exactly right Zdster!
All we have to ensure is that at the beginning of every thread created states the model that the thread is relating to.
Making a sub forum will jst create way to much work!

[wynode]

My 2 issues are:

1. What is stopping other non-Euros owners from posting?
2. What Zdster said.

[panda[cRx]]

easy, just change your thread titles

example:

[EURO] blah blah blah insert title here

[CD5] blah blah blah i have a cd5

[DC2R] my vtec fell off

[DEL SOL] i wish i had a real crx

etc etc

however the problem with that is enforcing it:confused:

[Fr3aKi3]

As panda said the problem would be enforcing it.

For example when the idea of adding the [EURO] tag in the title first started up, I saw lots of threads in which the mods had to remind people to include "[EURO]" in the title or had to do it themselves. That have been due to the introductory phase since I don't really see that happening anymore.

A problem that I think will arrise with having tags for every model (ie. eg, ek, cd5, dc2 etc etc) is that most people will probably lazy won't be bothered to include the tag, leaving it up to the mods to edit the title when their time can be better spent.

If the model tags does get implemented, then maybe force people to use it. For example when a new thread is being made, there will be a check box above the title so that the thread starter can just click on whichever model he or she has and the model would be included in the title.

If a model is selected and the user clicks on "Submit/Create thread" a pop-up or an error message will come up stating something along the lines of "This thread can not be created as a specific model has NOT yet been selected, please choose a model and re-submit"

The model check box would probably have to include the model years to save confusion. Something like:

Please select model:
Civic .............. CRX
() ED [87-92] ()
() EG [92-95] () Del Sol [92- ]
() EK [96-00]
() EU [01-05]

() Other

[Xplodin]

i think i would have to agree with Fr3aKi3 here, and panda as well.... Its hard tracking down the model that you want....

Like in the Accord section you get for example "Squeekie Front Struts" how are you spoz to know which model this would apply to...... Fr3aKi3's got the idea about having buttons so you can select your model of car...... This would give ppl a clear understanding of which model they are refering to.

[panda[cRx]]

nice idea on the buttons freakie but i'm not sure if it's possible? wyn where are you?

[aaronng]

Bah, who needs buttons? :p

Actually, if you check the Accord forum, almost all the new posts regarding the Euro have the [Euro] tag on them. It's only the older posts for CD5 and other accord models that don't have the tag. I reckon it'll work if you keep reminding people to put tags and the mods themselves edit the titles for the tags. Eventually everyone who reads the posts will realise that the model tags assist in finding the info you want and they will then use tags when they start their own threads.

The only problem I see with not having a separate Accord Euro forum is with the Euro threads drowning out the CD5 threads and causing CD5 owners to miss them.

[chunky]

']easy, just change your thread titles

example:

[EURO] blah blah blah insert title here

[CD5] blah blah blah i have a cd5

[DC2R] my vtec fell off

[DEL SOL] i wish i had a real crx

etc etc

however the problem with that is enforcing it:confused:

lol funny kient panda


i agree

[Fr3aKi3]

']nice idea on the buttons freakie but i'm not sure if it's possible? wyn where are you?

Thanks panda :D
I think it's possible. It's basically the same principle as the "Post Icons" that can be included in the titles.

As aaronng said we might not even need the buttons, just need to remind people to use the tags and after a period of time everyone would probably get the idea (the [EURO] tag is a good example of this). My only concern with this is the possiblity of the Newcomer's who don't know what model they have and there'll be a whole bunch of "What model accord,civic, jazz, teg do i have?" threads popping up, seeing as how the search function is under utilised.

The buttons will just add a little conveniance to forum memebers, but then again members should help out and make an effort to tidy up the forum as well...

I seem to contradict myself a lot...... :confused:

Personally I like the forums as they are, we have a Euro Luxury as our family car and I have an EK1 for myself. I usually don't only read threads relating to euro's only or ek's only, i tend to browse through the current threads even if it's a different model simply just because the threads are at the top. Great opportunity to learn more about different models and what not. I'd probably less inclined to read up about other models if it was in a sub-forum (even though it'll only just be a few mouse clicks away), but that's just me :p

[JasonGilholme]

I seem to contradict myself a lot...... :confused:

Its called self discussion. lol

I think tagging would be the solution to the problem but in order to create a naming convention for thread titles you need to ensure its integrity. You won't be able to rely on forum users to 'remember' to place the tag at the front.

I believe the tag idea is excellent but will need to have a automated/check box system developed to ensure its success.

[wynode]

The checkbox system is out of the question purely it involves a lot of code modification and database modification.

But as for the euro subforum.......i honestly don't see what is stopping non euro owners from posting

[SiReal]

Thought i'd resurrect this again. Apologies if this is an occuring issue, but mods, please have a look at the accord forum as it stands right now. All but one or two threads are euro related. I don't even bother posting in the accord forum anymore, or even reading because its all Euro. Everytime a non Euro thread comes up, it will soon be pushed onto the next page, hence not receiving exposure, hence defeating the purpose of an all accord forum. Please reconsider the euro forum. I'm quite fed up (but still happy :))

[yfin]

In many ways I agree with you. The Euro is probably one of the best selling Hondas in Australia of all time. It has consistenly sold around 1000+ units every month since release in mid 2003. A couple of questions though:

What do we do when the Euro is replaced with something else probably in 2007 or 2008 - ie a totally different shape, with SH-AWD and a nice turbo (wishing ;)). Would that new model warrant its own section or is it in the Euro section? Slippery slope - before long we are on our way to a section for every model.
What do you propose moderators say to people with varients of other models - eg Type R Integras. Do they not warrant their own section too? I guess we could say that the sheer number of Euro members here is the difference (it is now a very significant number - in the hundreds).
It would be good to move all the old Euro threads to the new section - hepls people browsing - but that is not so easy given there are hundreds of Euro threads. Not really a problem for members though...
Assuming you have a non-euro accord section. Does that mean you and non-euro owners will post more often? I guess the proof is in the pudding. I would hate to see lots of work to disect the Euro members but the accord owners still not posting much.Anyway, all of these things can be worked through but thought I would raise them to demonstrate this is not an easy issue.

[SiReal]

yfin, your input is much appreciated. I undersatnd it isn't an easy issue, because it may and probably will have a flow-on effect. So please do what is considered best for the forum. I don't mind the way it is now, just that its getting a little inundated. Euros are great cars and I do enjoy reading about them. I guess the Euro 'issue' is more apparent due to the absolute blanket coverage (so to speak). Thanks for the thoughtful reply however :)

[yfin]

I have raised it for moderators to discuss - watch this space...

[EuroDude]

plus some ppl forget to put [euro] infront of the thread title, which can be confusing.

[aaronng]

plus some ppl forget to put [euro] infront of the thread title, which can be confusing.
That's not a problem. Most people remember. Otherwise we get to put it in front for you. :p

[matt]

if the buttons for diif models is to hard (tho it sounds like a top idea) could you set up the new topic to be like when you send a PM. you know how it wont send unless you put in a subject, could make it so it wont post new topic unless you have a model listed.

[wynode]

if the buttons for diif models is to hard (tho it sounds like a top idea) could you set up the new topic to be like when you send a PM. you know how it wont send unless you put in a subject, could make it so it wont post new topic unless you have a model listed.
That's also code modification = hard and I won't be doing it (let alone I don't know how LOL).

Just gonna have a look at the mods thread on this now!

[[[d a n n y]]]

The problem with doing this, is that every model has a sub-model. Where would you stop?

Civic - ek, eg
Integras - da, dc2, dc5
Accords etc etc.

if euros get a subforum.
I'm gonna ask for a EG subforum

[yfin]

]']if euros get a subforum.
I'm gonna ask for a EG subforum
Danny you should read the Accord forum frequently. The Euro members are more than dominating.

My rough calculations are that it is 80 / 20 - so of the last 100 threads there are 80 Euro threads. I can understand why non-Euro and Euro owners alike are asking for this and the numbers tell a story.

I have looked at the Civic forums and you don't have a domination of one model for such a long period on a consistent basis. I have previously been against a Euro sub forum - now I am starting to see more and more members asking for it and it is rather convincing - eg:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19589&highlight=euro+subforum
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41712&highlight=euro+forum (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41712&highlight=euro+forum)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47610&highlight=euro+forum

Anyway moderators are discussing this so watch this space.

[[[d a n n y]]]

Danny you should read the Accord forum frequently. The Euro members are more than dominating.

My rough calculations are that it is 80 / 20 - so of the last 100 threads there are 80 Euro threads. I can understand why non-Euro and Euro owners alike are asking for this and the numbers tell a story.

I have looked at the Civic forums and you don't have a domination of one model for such a long period on a consistent basis. I have previously been against a Euro sub forum - now I am starting to see more and more members asking for it and it is rather convincing - eg:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19589&highlight=euro+subforum
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41712&highlight=euro+forum (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41712&highlight=euro+forum)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47610&highlight=euro+forum

Anyway moderators are discussing this so watch this space.

oppps i forgot to put the j/ks

[yfin]

]']oppps i forgot to put the j/ks

ok - as long as we don't end up with a Breeze only sub-forum that is ok with me :D

[[[d a n n y]]]

ok - as long as we don't end up with a Breeze only sub-forum that is ok with me :D

-_- slack..
but u know there is a few breeze drivers around lol

[yfin]

Green light to a trial sub section. Announcement here:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48232