Central locking in 98 civic cxi

[nuj]

hey guys, i have a 98 civic cxi hatch but no central locking. I went to jaycar, bought a 2 door central locking kit, came home, opened my door trim to put it in, but, it looked like there was an actuator already in there with 5 wires coming out to a plug, which is not plugd in anywhere... So wat i'm thinkin is since central locking is an option in CXi models, they have all the central locking parts in there, just dont plug them in...

Now heres the problem, i have the control unit and everything, but, b4 i try to install anything, i dont know which wires are for what. I searched for any wiring diagrams on the net and ozhonda but could not find anything, i was wondering if anyone knows if the plug behind the trim is for central locking or not and if anyone has pics or any help with installing central locking using that plug if it IS for central.

thanx b4hand, any help much appreciated...

[bennjamin]

moved. wait for ECU MAN or similar to reply

[nuj]

If any1s got any door wiring diagram or pictures of the inside of the door trim of a central locking EK (gli or vti) that would be gr8...

[ECU-MAN]

as you have found the drivers door has the 5 pin connector, wich means its got a motor and switch built into the door lock, its best to use it and not mount the aftermarket kit

the pasangers door will have the two pin conector, which is just for the motor, not switch there

I cant remember on the drivers door which wire are what, but its really not hard to find, all you need is a multi meter, put it in continuity mode and test the wires

out of the 5 wires 3 of them will be for the switch, what you want to do is find the common wire and will give continuity to another wire when the door is locked, when you change to door lock state to unlocked that same wire will give continuity to one of the other wires, double test your wires, the two wires that do not give contiunuity to anything will be the motor wires,


some times the switch wires are different colours to the motor wires and may be a bit thinner.

good luck

[nuj]

Thanx for that ECU-MAN i'll try it and post how it goes :)

[nuj]

I did it :D :D :D I got the c/locking HOOKD UP!

for anyone whos going to install central locking on a EK 98 hatch, if u got the 5 wire plug on ur door, dont buy a central locking kit, all u need is a control unit which u can buy from Jaycar for $15 and some wires, the c/locking works now, i hookd it up to a keyless remote also... really easy to install...

if any1 wants to know the wire config (wat wires are for wat) lemme know

[ECU-MAN]

why dont you make a DIY and put it in the DIY section :)

[abzndintegra]

NUj/ECU MAN

Here the story i have a EM1 for some reason the central locking doesnt work, i have a central locking ek kit for the passenger door so i though id try and see if i swap it over wether it will work,

my predicament is that ur correct the australian has a 5 wire system but the EM1 only has a 3 wire system,

whats the go there? could it be the control unit ur talking about? i couldnt work out how to connect a 5 wire central locking unit to a 3 wire

and the 5 wire is about twice the size of the 3 wire

[ECU-MAN]

take some pics of the location and connectors your talking about

If the 5 pin connector is only a 3 pin connector, there is a chance there is only a switch there not a motor switch combo, if thats the case you will have to add a 5 wire actuator to the drivers door.

[Surrufus]

if any1 wants to know the wire config (wat wires are for wat) lemme know
i would love to know

[abzndintegra]

ECUMAN ill take a pic on my next day off,

But i would also look to see ur work NUj take a few pics for us,

[nuj]

i'll take a pic of it and post it up as soon as i get some time...

the wire config (which was on my car) was:-

for the driver side:
red wire and yellow wire = motor
2 blue wires = switch
1 black wire = common

passenger side only has 2 wires coz its slave and they're both motor

the power lock relay u can pick up from jaycar for $15 (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=LR8818&CATID=6&keywords=&SPECIAL=&form=CAT&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=288) (if you dont need the actuators)

or the actual 2 door c/locking kit for $30 (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=LR8810&CATID=6&keywords=&SPECIAL=&form=CAT&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=288) which has everything u need including actuators, wires, power lock relay

[abzndintegra]

ECUMAN

OK ive taken a pic

http://members.optusnet.com.au/myhonda

looks like i have 3 wires

1 is the ground

2 are blue/white and blue/red these are also common on the 5 wire system (i verified via my spare wiring harness,

I also checked the left hand side, it s 2 wires, yelllow and white. these are the ones missing from the right hand side.

What does this mean? what am i missing, the weird thing is i though central locking was standard on EM1

Also wat is the point in putting all this wiring for only a switch and no motor?
why would honda do thaT?

then again from what ive described above it does sound like the left hand side does have a motor right?

[ECU-MAN]

it is standard dude

think beyond the circle

in your situaltion you do have central locking,
when ever you open or lock your car, you do it by the drivers door, by the keyhole or the leaver inside the car, so you only need a switch in the drivers door, no need for a motor because you are moving the lock's state

so what you have to do is mount a 2 wire motor on the drivers door and wire it back to the central locking modual that is already in your door, if you are unsure, take a pic and ill point it out to you.

wire the motor to the 2 wires, yelllow and white you found in the pasangers door. do this to the drivers door module I mentioned above.

[abzndintegra]

Totallay agree with what you saying about not need a motor cause im doing it manually via either the key or handle,

But you tell me to mount a motor, why would i want to do this?

The only reason i can think of is you think im trying to do remote central locking, when in actual fact all i want is my central locking to work.

right?

can u think of any reason for my central locking not to work then, ive checked all the fuses and there all ok

[ECU-MAN]

well I though you wanted to add a remote system to it, if you do then you need to add the actuator

if you central locking doesnt work, start by checking the fuse for central locking,
get a test light and test for power at the cenrtal locking unit,

then you may have to manually bridge the wires at that 3 pin connector to simulate the switch, then test the switch

a faulty switch will make the central locking apear dead, if your switch is rooted, then add an after makeket 5 wire actuator, wire up the switch and the motor.

[patchwick]

hey guys
same problem, trying to install an alarm system, everythings ready on the alarm part, but the central locking side, dont know which wires to hook into and dont know if i still need to install actuators/motor.
opened the door trim on driver's ..heaps of blue and black wires..couldnt find the up,down & common line...pretty confused now..help please
model 00' EK1 GLI

[Zdster]

hey guys
same problem, trying to install an alarm system, everythings ready on the alarm part, but the central locking side, dont know which wires to hook into and dont know if i still need to install actuators/motor.
opened the door trim on driver's ..heaps of blue and black wires..couldnt find the up,down & common line...pretty confused now..help please
model 00' EK1 GLI

Might be of some help:
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[patchwick]

Might be of some help:
http://repo.jackmoves.com/v/erik/album106/album206/?g2_page=4

tnx dude.. ill try to study it :D

[steve88]

the central locking on my EK GLi is a little haywire. it doesnt always open and in some instances sets my alarm off, you guys reckon take it too somewhere like doran pro audio before ripping it apart?

[pedomorphic]

i got a question for the cxi installation of the central locking... where did you get power for the central locking? where abouts? thanks

[BLKek]

When I bought my EK I thought I needed a kit, turns out the window tinters forgot to reconnect the plugs (thats the excuse they gave me anyways), no idea why they'd have to pull 'em though, cost me nothing and didn't have to do a thing besides ask why they weren't working :shrugs:

[lqw01]

Reviving this old thread :)

ANSWER:

Couldn't find a simple answer to this problem and after a lot of research and confusion I finally worked out how to make my civic have remote central locking.
Car is a 1998 EK Civic hatch GLI - Factory fitted central locking (both doors open using key), + electric windows if that makes any difference.

* This method only requires a remote central locking control unit (including remotes) no other actuators or parts needed. Very simple 4 wire process:


1. Take off drivers door trim

2. Locate door actuator plug which is grey and has 5 wires(bottom right of door):
- black
- white/red stripe
- yellow/red stripe
- blue/white stripe
- blue/red stripe

We are going to be using both; blue/white stripe , blue/red stripe which are the signal wires.

3. Locate factory central locking unit control box (sits in a pocket inside left hand side of door):

This unit has many wires coming out of it. All you need to find is
-black (ground)
-white/green stripe (constant power)

Remember to check with test light


The remote central locking kit I purchased came with actuators and was for a 4 door car. Not to over complicate things, it was also double master control which basically meant it was designed having 4 wires attached to the front door actuators and 2 wires on the rear actuators. It may be different in your case depending on the kit you purchase.
In my case, I cut off the actuators which left me with just the control unit. I had RED (constant 12v), BLACK, GREEN (signal), BLUE(signal), BROWN and WHITE (both signal for master front doors which are not needed). The green and blue wires are what i used.

4. Connect wires!

[Aftermarket kit > factory wires]

RED + > WHITE/GREEN + constant power
BLACK - > BLACK - negative ground

GREEN > BLUE/RED signal
BLUE > BLUE/WHITE signal

5. I mounted the control box next to the actuator plug with zip ties and double sided tape. Be careful it clears the window and door trim!


Obliviously every kit will be different, just connect the actuator signal wires from your aftermarket locking unit to the factory wires i have pointed out.

After testing you should have both drivers and passenger side doors opening and closing, all without touching an actuator or relay :) Hope this helps

[LMF]

This is great. Thx for the info lqw01, I am planning to buy a keyless entry kit for my Civic Coupe.