19x8.5" +38 offset on a lowered euro - will it work?

[euro69]

What do you think guys... a 19x8.5" +38 offset on a lowered euro - will it work? or what is a better offset for it.

it'd be great to hear from a member that has this setup, thanks

[kitbkk]

one euro owner already has this set up but 9.5 in rear, no problems but rear guards need to be rolled. but some people think its wrong offset, if ur thinking of improving performance rather looks.

[euro69]

not looking to impove performance.
use for a family car.

[stephen8512]

genk-jomblo is the one that has 9.5 at the rear. +38 offset at the rears
he had to roll his guards and theres some -ve camber.

i have 20x8.5 on all 4's. my rear guards havent been rolled

[euro69]

just had a look at one of genk-jomblo post. very nice btw
my car is lower than his, and dont know if its gonna be a problem when the wheels are fitted.

[stephen8512]

there will be uneven tread wear obviously, and it'll be a bitch to go over speedhumps etc
but other than that, its good

[euro69]

thankz guyz. yeah i guess that would be 1 problem that cant be avoided.
i''ll be getting a camber kit just to help it a bit.
anyone know what the rides like?

[stephen8512]

well depends on what ur cars lowered on
mines lowered on tein flex coilovers with damper control.
even with my 20's its prtty comfortable. near stock ride quality

[euro69]

i got tein SS on the lowest it can go.

[stephen8512]

shouldnt be too bad
but guards will def. need to be rolled
cuz my teins are still on 1.5 finger gap all round

[ALN]

I did in my car 19" 8.5 off +38 .
It will looks good but you have to get your car lower pretty much and suggested get camber kit

[yfin]

What do you think guys... a 19x8.5" +38 offset on a lowered euro - will it work?

it'd be great to hear from a member that has this setup, thanks

Hmm, ponders whether to say anything. My point on stupid offsets has already been made in a number of threads so :zip:

[euro69]

my car has no gaps betwwen the tyres and gaurds. if its starts to rub then i'll have to get the gaurds rolled.

ALN: u got pics of ur car???

yfin:as i dont know what offset to get for my car, thats y i posted it up.
if i knew i wouldnt have to ask ppl for help and info. i would like to hear everyones opinion on this issue.

[Atjo]

There're already threads regarding this offset question. You go go with 19x8.5 +38 maybe you need to roll the guard. Mine is 19x9.5 +32 which mean even going out from the body. You have to roll the guard & full negative camber. Here's the pic when the car was lower from the current one:

http://www.atjo.org/permaisuri/endut04.jpg

[Unkie]

It's been often noted here that a 7.5" width and +45 offset will have the wheel sitting almost flush with the guards. So having 8.5" and +38 will have the outer edge extending a further 2cm??

And the Euro guards cant be rolled all that far. So is that ALOT of camber (front wheels too) or rolling or huh? How is it done? :confused: Its obviously possible since there are guys around that have done something similar...

[yfin]

yfin:as i dont know what offset to get for my car, thats y i posted it up.
if i knew i wouldnt have to ask ppl for help and info. i would like to hear everyones opinion on this issue.

Your question was "will it work". Yes you can make that size work.

If you do a search the next thing you need to think about is the impact of varying the offset from +55 to +38. It is a significant change on the suspension setup which will impact handling and could damage suspension components and wheel bearings down the track.

Then work out whether that rim size is legal - it wouldn't be in Vic for this vehicle. Ask your local RTA and speak to your insurance company as many have limits on rim width too. Lots of people fit illegal sized rims - so whether you take the risk is up to you.

Next is width choice. There is zero benefit in going to a 8.5" rim. The car has 190hp at the engine - not 400hp so super wide tyres are useless. Any wider than 235 is complete overkill. I also think 19" on a car with 190hp is too much and only going to hurt performance.

But that said - I don't know what you are trying to do? Some people are building show cars here so it is understandable why they want the "look".

You only asked whether it will work - not whether it was a good idea :)

[stephen8512]

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10494

read this
very informative

[euro69]

im not building a performance car or a show car.
i just wanna make the car look better than what it is. its my family car as i said before. i already have 2 other performance car, and dont need another one.
im not to worry about the legal side of it, as i know its going to be a illegal size rims for the car anywayz. i was just after the offset as i not really sure what to get.

[ALN]

my car has no gaps betwwen the tyres and gaurds. if its starts to rub then i'll have to get the gaurds rolled.

ALN: u got pics of ur car???

yfin:as i dont know what offset to get for my car, thats y i posted it up.
if i knew i wouldnt have to ask ppl for help and info. i would like to hear everyones opinion on this issue.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/eurocl9/123.jpg

as you can see the wheels pretty tight on the fender. Still can work but you have to make your car quite low so if you intend not to lower the car so much just get the offset above +40 and with width of 8 instead of 8.5. I hope that's help.

[yfin]

Hey Aln - can you post up more pics of your ride in the appearance section. Looks sweet.

Euro69 - if this is your daily driver I agree with ALN - go 8" wide or less and I would go offset +42 or above (preferably +45 or +48). Also make sure you test the rims on the front of the car as caliper clearance could be an issue if you go low offset.

[kitbkk]

Hope you dont mind me posting link of ur car domain ALN,,,I rekon your Euro looks the best from what I have seen..http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2115235 ps. Just let me know if you want me to delete this link..

[euro69]

this is the problem guys. buddy club only make rims in this offset.19x8+30, 19x8+38, 19x8.5+22, 19.8.5+38, and 19x8.5+42
which one would be a better option?

[Atjo]

this is the problem guys. buddy club only make rims in this offset.19x8+30, 19x8+38, 19x8.5+22, 19.8.5+38, and 19x8.5+42
which one would be a better option?

I'll go with 19x8.5 +42. I think you only need to roll the guard a bit. I recommend you to go to Donnellans in box hill to do the roll guard, they do a good job.

[Tobster]

Why not just buy wheels that actually fit properly? :)

[euro69]

Tobster: i cant buy one thats fits properly as they only come in these offset. these are the only choices i have for these rims.

Atjo: not located in melb. im in sydney

[Tobster]

What I mean is: buy different rims that fit.

The you won't have all the fitting problems and legal and safety issues -- especially as it's a "family car".

[euro69]

oh ok i get what u mean.
the reason y i want these rims cause i like them for a long time now.

[yfin]

this is the problem guys. buddy club only make rims in this offset.19x8+30, 19x8+38, 19x8.5+22, 19.8.5+38, and 19x8.5+42
which one would be a better option?

The best of the evil sizes above is 19x8 +38.

Run this calculator on those sizes and see the changes to inner clearance and outer position

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp (http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp)

[ALN]

Hey Aln - can you post up more pics of your ride in the appearance section. Looks sweet.

Euro69 - if this is your daily driver I agree with ALN - go 8" wide or less and I would go offset +42 or above (preferably +45 or +48). Also make sure you test the rims on the front of the car as caliper clearance could be an issue if you go low offset.

good idea, I'll post it sometimes later.



Hope you dont mind me posting link of ur car domain ALN,,,I rekon your Euro looks the best from what I have seen..http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2115235 ps. Just let me know if you want me to delete this link..

That's alright, Kit.

[ALN]

this is the problem guys. buddy club only make rims in this offset.19x8+30, 19x8+38, 19x8.5+22, 19.8.5+38, and 19x8.5+42
which one would be a better option?

I would go with 19x8 +38 like yfin said since last time when I put my 19x8.5 off +38, the inner gap between the wheels and your shocks is pretty close about 1.5cm for the front clearance so I recon for 8.5 width not really good for offset more than +40.
For the dish of the rims there almost no difference between use 8.5 off +42 and 8 off +38. Btw you could try to ask buddy club to make the custom offset you like, it may required more time though.

[aDe]

Would you think 20 x 8.5 & 20 X 9.5 offset 38mm will fit accord?

[stephen8512]

i got 20x8.5 all round on my euro. no problem
its also lowered 2.5" all round on tein flex coilovers

[aDe]

i got 20x8.5 all round on my euro. no problem
its also lowered 2.5" all round on tein flex coilovers

What's the offset of yours?

[yfin]

ade - it is hard for anyone to say whether such a large size and low offset will work well on your car unless they have the same model as you and tested it.

The Euro is a different body - clearances could be different and the suspension is also different.

What do you see as the point of 9.5" rear (assuming you can even get that size to fit) and different sizes front to rear for a FWD? It sounds to me like you are looking at second hand rims from a Nissan GTR or something like that.

[aDe]

thanks for the input yfin, 9,5 at rear are common nowdays in FWD cars mainly because for the dish, i have seen 20x10 in widebody accord but the problems is the offset, i want to know what's the best offset to install without causing much trouble, things like rolling fender and cutting edges of bumper shud be ok to me :D

[yfin]

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thanks for the input yfin, 9,5 at rear are common nowdays in FWD cars mainly because for the dish, i have seen 20x10 in widebody accord but the problems is the offset, i want to know what's the best offset to install without causing much trouble, things like rolling fender and cutting edges of bumper shud be ok to me :D
What I would suggest given you are talking very wide rims is to take the car to a good tyre shop (I have had good experiences with Tyre Factory but I guess it is hit and miss with most tyre shops) and ask them for advice. I say this because with such a wide rim it is difficult to go with the stock high offset (ie +55) as the inner clearance to the strut will be reduced significantly with a 9.5" rim (4.4cm reduction). This could cause interference with suspension components - yes with the OEM +55 offset. Or the wheel may not fit at all.

Conversely, you cannot go with a too low offset (eg +20) as the rim could stick out past the body (as width is 7.9cm increase). So in this case you need advice on how far they can roll the guards - how much room there is to the body, etc).

If it sounds complicated - well I guess it is and it isn't. They need to do some measurements on how much room you have on the inner clearance stock and how much they can roll the guards etc to fit 9.5" rims. Once you know how much room there is - the offset calculator linked above can be used to work out the best offset (which I imagine is going to be a low offset). It is all a balancing exercise but is an absolute must before you buy something this wide.

The other obvious option is to see whether the shop will test various different rim offsets on the car and see how much room there is - but that isn't always an option unless the shop holds stock of 9.5" rims in various offsets for the desired bolt pattern.

I have written the above on the basis of whether you can get the rims to "fit" - not whether it is legal, not whether you increase the risk of suspension or wheel bearing problems down the track, etc, etc. I think the answer to those issues is well known.

[Chris_F]

^ listen to yfin, he knows what he's talkin about:thumbsup:

[yfin]

^ listen to yfin, he knows what he's talkin about:thumbsup:

Thanks - but I don't really know as I just told him to go to a tyre shop! :) The 9.5" size is just too big for us to know the right offset for that body.

It will be amazing if Ade can fit 9.5" without rolling the guards.

[stephen8512]

someone on acurazine has BBS style rims on their SSM euro with 9.5 rear's and from memory, 275 wide tyres with no guard rolling, camber kit and lowered on eibach/koni's