is this realistic.

[khoi242]

hey guys, i've currently got a h23 engine in my prelude, 4th gen, stock at the moment.

As the enthusiast i am, :)
i was wondering if it would be realistic..or ideal...to perform an engine conversion on my car :D

i was thinking something along the lines, of an NSX engine? (engine code c30?)

feel free to input your ideas and comments,

[CUL8R]

yeah...ummm....NO

NO NO NO

well yes, but itll cost asmuch as an nsx

go a h22a, maybe even the s2k motor?
i would reccon go h22a, if u want better power go for the type s h22a jap spec.

[bigteethygrin]

it'll weight down the front of a car that is already fairly front heavy.. if your keen tho.. maybe suggest a cheaper vtec v6.. like legend or accord v6 engine

[panda[cRx]]

anything can be done with enough money and time mate......do some more research and u will soon find out how realistic it is and exactly what would be involved :p

stick with the h23 and boost it if u want a lil more power

[redliner]

chucks a k20 in

[panda[cRx]]

why bother with k20? :confused:

[chicken8]

because u have a 4th gen then im guessing u're living on a budget like the rest of us

and because its a 4th gen then im guessing its not a giant budget compared to those who mod s2000 or NSX

1stly it'll be near impossible to source a NSX engine. either the 3L or the 3.2L

even a H22A conversion would set you back close to what a 4th gen Si would cost.

it'll be much cheaper for u to sell the 4th gen Si and get either a 4th gen Si VTEC. or a 4th gen VTIR or a 5th gen VTIR. or even an integra type R.

[preludacris]

hahah yeah, hrmm not sure about the k20... power wise wouldnt be the best choice. and for the money of installing that engine ... plusss itll be sitting so far forward, ur car balance will be even worse ..

h22a conversions only cost around 2.5 to 4k. unless the place installiing it is ripping u off.

if u want power, turbo ur current, or put a jdm h22a. otherwise i'd be looking at a honda v6 or something like that, for a bit more torque

[CUL8R]

yeah if theres anything the lude might need its a lil more torque, but hey turbo adds torque!!! lol

[marte]

nsx engine in ur prelude ; possible=yes. realistic = no.
go with a h22a, 147 kw atf**
depends what kinda power your looking at, from the gains u'd have in a nsx engine looks ilek u want obselite power lol. why not build ur h23 and turbbo it?

[khoi242]

alright thanks for input guys

[CUL8R]

the h22a makes 147Kw at the fly, not the wheels

[marte]

my bad

[ROLLED]

my bad

marte = honda noob

[CUL8R]

rolled = harsh man
lol

[preludacris]

lol prolly just a typo ... hehe

we wish 147 atw mate.. :P

[redliner]

ok i 4got to put a at the bak of k20 ;p
k20a has alot of potential for mods, not impossible to do.

[Da1nONLY]

ok i 4got to put a at the bak of k20 ;p
k20a has alot of potential for mods, not impossible to do.

Think its time for you to get a k20 kheng! :p

[nator]

I think you would be better off selling your fourth gen and buying an NSX. Probably wind up cheaper....lol.

[LUD35]

the h22a makes 147Kw at the fly, not the wheels

the h22(JDM spec) makes 147 at the flywheel. the AUDM model, the h22a makes 143kw at the flywheel, not 147.

[bored]

if you have money anything is possible

[CUL8R]

the h22(JDM spec) makes 147 at the flywheel. the AUDM model, the h22a makes 143kw at the flywheel, not 147.
jdm s spec make 163 at the fly
audm pre 99 makes 142 at the fly
audm post 99 makes 147 at the fly

[sleepyf1]

Doesn't the k20 have even less torque than the h22a? the higher revving unit will not suited to the heavier prelude.

Don't forget with the NSX engine you will need to think about drive train, i.e. gearbox etc and the differences between MR and FF, should pose some major complications not to mention 207kw powering the front wheels without LSD!

Go supercharge (its the new trend - look at the new Mugen Civic) It'll maintain the charactersitics of the NA reponse too.

[CUL8R]

the k20 will have alot less torque but the K series engines respond soooo much better to mods and tuning than the h motors. i dont think itll be ideal for the lude, neither should the NSX even be an option unless u have money falling out of ur pockets their so full. even then i would buy an S2k , go full rebuild with a hadcore toda stroker kit with hondata and only the best bolt ons money could buy...but this is a prelude forum
i would say the h22a would be a great option, if ur really serious u should build an all motor beast, get a kinda run down motor and just build it from the ground up then u could possibly even go supercharger, but plan for this ahead as different internals will produce better gains in different circumstances.

[preludacris]

yep , i also agree the lude would be too heavy to take advantage of the k20a. and also the farked up balance of the lude, would be an even bigger disadvantage of chuckn one in .

supercharge sounds like a nice option tho ... hrm ... i wonder the cost involved...

[sleepyf1]

There are bolt supercharger kits available for a range of Hondas these days. appox 5k? + labour. Very popular because the standard honda internals seem to be able to stand up to the extra stress.

[CUL8R]

lol, well the h22a cant hold anything! throw on a turbo and go more than 8psi on a daily driver and itll be ***d!
jackson racing make a supercharger for the h22a, huge in america, ive seen a trader actually be able to source em.
problem is, once u got FI on a honda, it loses all its appeal