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VTECACCORD
31-05-2006, 01:18 PM
This seems to be a common theme with Rota's, thought people should be warned when buying knockoffs.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4540/0529062054a4ij.jpg

[Quote]Was doing 75 (100km/hr) on freeway, hit a bump, wheel gave out, sent his car into a slide, hit guardrail, slid the other way, stopped in the middle of traffic, almost got T-boned.[Quote]

refer to below post for what really happened
saxman
31-05-2006, 02:08 PM
that is not an accurate description of what occured...

the rear tyre blew out, causing the car to hit the guard rail, that wheel first, at 75 mph. The damage to the wheel was the result of the car hitting the guard rail, not the cause.


this one was the cause

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6084/05290620557vi.jpg
zorrt
31-05-2006, 02:33 PM
holy s*hit!
VTECACCORD
31-05-2006, 03:16 PM
from what i had read, i thought the car had hit a bump which broke the front wheel.

Saxman is that your car ?
saxman
31-05-2006, 05:55 PM
from what i had read, i thought the car had hit a bump which broke the front wheel.

Saxman is that your car ?
not my car... belongs to someone on another forum I'm on... there wasn't a bump as far as I'm aware... the rear suddenly lost control, with all signs pointing towards the rear tire blow out, which caused the car to go into the wall.
DreadAngel
31-05-2006, 06:09 PM
Man, don't scare me VTECACCORD, I'm getting a set of Rotas soon!
EG5[KRT]
31-05-2006, 08:40 PM
fark they look like my rims .. too bad tho mine are real mugen rnr :D

but yeh iw as thinking about getting slipstreams .. better not then ey ..
DreadAngel
31-05-2006, 08:47 PM
Bro, your not making it any easier on my mind, I AM GETTING SLIPSTREAMS lol! But if its as accurately decribed by saxman, its not Rota's problem phew!
VTECACCORD
31-05-2006, 09:49 PM
Dreadangel with any rim you have to be careful.

In my personal opinion I dont think the rota slipstream is going to be as strong as the forged authentic ones.

Just dont use them for racing.
EK9
31-05-2006, 10:17 PM
isn't this pretty obvious? as in normal/knockoff rims aren't and will not be as good as their real forged counter parts? you can't expect it...

there can be thousands of reasons that a wheel can give out, including hitting a wall! and it doesn't necessarily mean cos it's a knockoff. these rims probably go through testing and have to pass certain safety standards before being sold and imported worldwide.
iced
31-05-2006, 10:33 PM
Man, don't scare me VTECACCORD, I'm getting a set of Rotas soon!

real Rota shoudnt be a prob should it?
i presume you are getting real otherwise you woulda said fake:p
DreadAngel
31-05-2006, 10:35 PM
Yup, gettin' the real thing not fakershakers...

I'm only playing people hehe!
dundas
31-05-2006, 11:36 PM
LOL.. well if he didnt have that blow out. then hit the guard the wheels would of been fine ...
Sir_vtec
01-06-2006, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=saxman]that is not an accurate description of what occured...

the rear tyre blew out, causing the car to hit the guard rail, that wheel first, at 75 mph. The damage to the wheel was the result of the car hitting the guard rail, not the cause.




[QUOTE]

doesnt matter what u hit but to the fact that the spokes gave out to the lip of the rims. normally it would buckle and get a dent but not come out like this.. thats some terrible quality rims
saxman
06-06-2006, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=saxman]that is not an accurate description of what occured...

the rear tyre blew out, causing the car to hit the guard rail, that wheel first, at 75 mph. The damage to the wheel was the result of the car hitting the guard rail, not the cause.




[QUOTE]

doesnt matter what u hit but to the fact that the spokes gave out to the lip of the rims. normally it would buckle and get a dent but not come out like this.. thats some terrible quality rimsa bit more info has came out from the guy... I'll let the photos do the talking

this is what caused the car to lose control... the rear tire blew out
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8753/06020613260cp.jpg

this is what happened to the wheel that impacted the wall. Keep in mind there was almost no damage to anything else on the car. Some minor scraping on the fender, but no catastrophic damage to any part of the car. Basically the wheel took the entire impact of 2500lbs going into a wall at 75 mph.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5224/06020613292av.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3337/0602061329a3er.jpg

not quite just the spokes giving out
DreadAngel
06-06-2006, 06:42 PM
So in otherwords, even if the rim was genuine, it probably wouldn't have survived the impact either?
Mikeyas
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
It’s cast, so its bonds are not as strong as forged bonds. It shows that it is of weaker construction. But terrible quality... I think that is a bit misleading... The rim is probably of excellent quality but all you can see is that when a wheel takes the full impact of an accident it will deform. Forged rims bend, cast wheels crack and break. Just a demonstration that potentially at the limits of a cars NORMAL operation the forged wheel would withstand higher loads.
DreadAngel
06-06-2006, 07:08 PM
Okay, learnt something new today, thanks for the clarification Mikeyas!
Zdster
06-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Wow. All I have to say is that I have followed this thread and ones on other Honda forums.

I think it is quite unfair to say this was caused purely by rim quality. Yes the tyre did blow out (and how!!!), but the design of the rim in my opinion was also at fault.

Think about it. There are only five pieces of 'cast' metal or aluminium holding the outer edge of the rim to the hub. When you have an impact (especially if it occurs at one of the connections between the spokes to the outer wheel) this area is put under huge pressure. Even if the rims were of high quality you would have to think that the impact could cause the rim to (at least at first warp) and eventually brake. If the quality of the wheel is weaker then you could expect that to happen sooner than a stronger wheel - but you could imagine that happening to any of them.

Edit: Just read Mikeyas post. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
[ricer]
06-06-2006, 08:06 PM
real Rota shoudnt be a prob should it?
i presume you are getting real otherwise you woulda said fake:p

i thought rota was the fake wheel manufacture? :confused:
1900-hustler
16-06-2006, 12:24 AM
rota is not a fake wheel manufacturer..

they are a reputable company that makes knock-offs of more expensive wheels such as mugen, gab etc.. but jus cos they are copies by no means does that result in poor quality and build.. they are jus as good as the real thing and i kno of alot of people on other forums in US and UK using these rims for the track and having no problems..
CTR Coupe
16-06-2006, 03:24 AM
I don't think a reputable company such as Bob Jane wouldn’t re-badge rotas (RJR) if they didn’t meet some Australian safety requirements.
Everyone in the US loves to bash rotas because they paid allot of money for a genuine wheels and other people bought rotas, paid a lot less and got the same look.

The people that paid a lot for their genuine Japanese wheels feel cheated when rota comes out with a copy of it because they thought they were buying a look that was exclusive due to its price.

That being said rota probably shouldn’t make cast wheels with such thin spokes however it didn’t contribute to this accident as saxman said.