coupe or hatch

[canook]

hi i have the choice between a 1996 VTI-R hatch 103km or a VTI coupe 146km for around the same money...
what would your recommendations be?

[Zdster]

The ek4 hatch :thumbsup:.

[tRipitaka]

depends what you want out of a car..

do you want more performance ? i.e. ek4 (VTIR HATCH)

or do you want more boot space, and a different look to common ek hatches ? i.e. ej8 (VTI COUPE)

[nugget666]

coupe all teh way.

[dc2dc2dc2]

if it was a vti-r coupe then i'd say the coupe for sure ! but its a vti don't really like vti's so i'd say go for the the vti-r hatch ~

[Surrufus]

VTi-R hatch... B16 POWER!

[kris_]

definately go the VTIR if its for the same money

WAY more potential

[Zdster]

depends what you want out of a car..

do you want more performance ? i.e. ek4 (VTIR HATCH)

or do you want more boot space, and a different look to common ek hatches ? i.e. ej8 (VTI COUPE)

Not just that, but the ek4 also has less km's.

[jackosimm]

VTi-R hatch... B16 POWER!

......:thumbsup:

[z3lda]

b16a = shit & over rated

[tRipitaka]

then you also have to think about how much you wanna spend on your car..

ej8: you can use normal unleaded petrol..

whereas

ek4: you'll be using PULP (i.e. 10c more per litre)

[tRipitaka]

Not just that, but the ek4 also has less km's.
doesn't really matter la..
if the engine dies..

d16 is like 1/4 the price of a b16

[Q_ball]

ek4 it :)
and facelift hehe

[dan_lee]

if i were in ur shoes, i'd take the hatch. i like the look of the coupe but the ek4 has the b16a.

[canook]

then you also have to think about how much you wanna spend on your car..

ej8: you can use normal unleaded petrol..

whereas

ek4: you'll be using PULP (i.e. 10c more per litre)
that was one of my thoughts with the price of petrol.....

[aimre]

d16 = less compresion = easier turbo = Hektos

[honda_ek4]

hatch-for performance
coupe-looks

if it was me, id go for the hatch:)
(unless the coupe was a vti-R.. totally different story)

[BlitZ]

b16a = shit & over rated

WTF?
its only like the most powerful N/A 1.6ltr mass produced engine in the world.
it makes like over 100hp/ltr..how is it overrated.

it started the evolution of street variable timing...

it can easily blow any stock for stock 4age(probaably even 20 valve) and sr20 (non turbo)...
and if u match it with a lighter chasis like and ef or eg (available in JDM land) they will rip... gen 2 crx Sir would easily keep with with an ITR on a str8

If you were u work a b16a, it would take alot more money to produce the same result as a b18c... but as for stock they are quiet optimum and a very happy revver.
.

[canook]

well after all the stuffing around i bought the coupe.... as much as i wanted a VTI-R i managed to get the coupe alot cheaper after a bucketload of bartering... ALOT CHEAPER! ;)

[honda_ek4]

post some pix up of it:)

[alvinek4]

hatch-for performance
hatch-looks (much better than coup i reckon!!)
of cource ek4~

[jazz]

I would go for the EK4.
But anyway congrads on your purchase!!Post some pics up of your new ride

[xtercii]

WTF?

it can easily blow any stock for stock 4age(probaably even 20 valve)
.

Not questioning your statement at all, just that can you explain a bit more in which they can easily blow a silver top and a black top? Seeing all 3 of them produce similar amount of power.

[canook]

i'll post some pics this weekend

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

shouldve bought the hatch lor.. EJ8's still good though! ur choice but as long as ur happy in teh end, no worriez laaaaa.. :)

[canook]

i agree but i got the coupe $4k cheaper

[J-MuN]

Congrates on purchase. As the others said, if you're not too fussed about performance, then the EJ8 is the better buy and if you also got it $4K less then why not.

[z3lda]

WTF?
its only like the most powerful N/A 1.6ltr mass produced engine in the world.
it makes like over 100hp/ltr..how is it overrated.

it started the evolution of street variable timing...

it can easily blow any stock for stock 4age(probaably even 20 valve) and sr20 (non turbo)...
and if u match it with a lighter chasis like and ef or eg (available in JDM land) they will rip... gen 2 crx Sir would easily keep with with an ITR on a str8

If you were u work a b16a, it would take alot more money to produce the same result as a b18c... but as for stock they are quiet optimum and a very happy revver.
.

oh noes..!!:eek: the evolution starter!! :eek:

they cost the same as a b18c vtir but makes less power.
its just like takumi's 20 year old $10,000 pos.
ovAa Rate Ted !~!

[EK9]

b16b > b16a ;)

[tRipitaka]

d15b4 > b16b

[z3lda]

d13b > d15b4

[xtercii]

the em1 is getting cheaper these days...

[Menzy]

^^ who said em1 bro, its an ej8 ... VTI - VTIR... two different cars man,

anyways just like they all said, power wise go ek4 (my opinion) or go with the ej8 less power but looks wise is good as its a coupe :P

good luck let us know which you end up getting

peace !

[tRipitaka]

he's already bought the car :)

[z3lda]

the ek coupe is such a comon car.!! :thumbdwn:
why didnt u buy an eg coupe! :) !!

[simbadda54]

b16a with less k's on it or d16y with high k's? U must be buying a cheap vtir or an expensive EJ8

[tron07]

Any photos yet? How much you got the coupe for?

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

hi tron!
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45483

[roar]

okay engine vs engine
the 4age20v is superior to b16a...
has more power and more torque...

however, the gearbox that was equipped with 20v cars (corolla/ levin/trueno coupes)...had the shittest ratios of all time

typically, when you shifted at max power, you would fall below the power curve

thus, as a complete product, b16a civics perform better than 4age 20v corollas

[BlitZ]

20 valve technology isnt used anymore.. Reason being is that they found that a proper 4 valve per cyclinder engine work as well as 5 valve per cyclinder... mainly tested by toyota and saab (from memory)...

Gbox wise, you can get a 6 speed closer ratio fwd box on the newer silver top 20 valves... but they cost a mint..

the vtec system is also far more superior to the vvt system in the 20 valve.

it would be interesting.. to compare the dyno plots of both engines.. as they produce similar powers

[bored]

hatch vtir

[Setanta]

b16a = shit & over rated

QFT

Get the coupe and drop a decent motor in it or turbo the D16 and own the VTIR hatch in the pants.