how much punishment??

[cheebye]

hey guys..

just a quick question. with my dc5-r, how strong are the engines? I'm not talking about turbocharging or anything else.. just normal, with slight filter and exhaust mods. Cause I have been pushing it quite a bit recently (damn filter :P) and just worried if I overstressed the engine?

I heard ppl saying vtec engines were designed to rev high and can take plenty before needing some work, but just wanted more opinions? Cause apparently our engines are not as strong as the jdm version. :roll:

[mugsee]

honda's are built to sit on the redline all day long. If your car breaks down, i'll be very, VERY surprised. It should be covered by Honda warranty anyways. Just make sure that you warm up/warm down the engine before some spirited driving ;)

[cheebye]

ok thx :D

yeh, I always warm it up in the mornings and let it idle for a while before shutting it down after a spirited run :)

[McChook]

do an oil and filter change more often... only use clean petrol
How many Kms on the engine??

[cheebye]

arr.. around 2,600km now

[madgrk]

rofl mine is near 1,000,000 :D

[type one]

2,600??? or 26,000? if only 2,600... you should be not vtecing until you have run the engine in ie at least 5000km... even the stupid dealers tell you this... must be cautious :)

I was careful with my ITR not to go over 4 to 5 grand until 5000km... VERY hard hahaha

but if was a typo and its 26K then no worries mate...

[CJL]

The recommended is 1500k, so i have been told by allot of mechanics/ dealers.... Cause i was worried as hell when i got my r

[cheebye]

2,600??? or 26,000? if only 2,600... you should be not vtecing until you have run the engine in ie at least 5000km... even the stupid dealers tell you this... must be cautious :)

I was careful with my ITR not to go over 4 to 5 grand until 5000km... VERY hard hahaha

but if was a typo and its 26K then no worries mate...

WTF. is urs a dc2 or dc5? cause I was told and have read that my engine has been pre-run in in japan, and there's no need to run it in for 5k's. I was told it's fine after 1,000km. i hope that's the case..

btw - my car is 2months old so yes.. 2,600km's. not 26,000kms.

[pornstar]

dont worry too much about it chee bye, there even debate as to how the engine should be worn in as in hard or slow driving to wear it in, i mean think about how the engines pistons rings should be seated as high rpm cmopared to low rpm work, and to see how the seating would be affected if it were never driven hard to seat in the first palce?

[cheebye]

hey dude..

yeh I know about all that running-in methods. like during the run-in period, you should give it a bit on and off and redline maybe once during that period to ensure the piston rings seal properly.

what I wanted to know was how durable are the engines if constantly driven @ high rpm, cause I don't wanna do anything stupid, esp on a new car :roll:

[flyryd]

yeah, there is lots of opinions about running in cars.
some people say to drive it slow for 5000kms, some say new cars are pre-runned in...

[CJL]

hey dude..

yeh I know about all that running-in methods. like during the run-in period, you should give it a bit on and off and redline maybe once during that period to ensure the piston rings seal properly.

what I wanted to know was how durable are the engines if constantly driven @ high rpm, cause I don't wanna do anything stupid, esp on a new car :roll:

Sorry to whore ur post but i was wondering the same thing ive done 1700k's and ever after 1500k's ive been giving it a bit....... Im going to the mechanics tomorrow morning so ill see what they have to say......

[cheebye]

ok, keep us posted.

[pornstar]

well cheebye, to give u an idea....

first few cars i had i treated like dirt haha, prelude vtir: 250kms, didnt change oil or filter or air or sparks once in an 80k km period. stil runs fine, and runs well today

ITR, same abuse, over 50k kms currently at 130k kms no probs.

another 3 hondas, same sort of abuse in excess of 150k kms.

i dont hink u got anything to worry aboiut :)

[CJL]

Well I have just had my 1st service, i busted the mechanics balls about this he basically said dc5 r has a cut off system at i think 8500rpm or 9000 i cant remember the car can hanlde way more than that, also he mentioned the honda engines are probably one of the strongest engines today, u can thrash them redline them and they will still be running fine for years to come.......

[[zeth]]

I drove my DC2 quite hard in my point of view. Regular redlining and now at 70k the engine still runs STRONG! The engine itself is built to stand that kinda punishment anyway and I think we should drive it the way it is built :D

Of course I still do the basic maintinance such as changing the oil, filters etc
warming up and cooling the car down

[vti-2]

what I wanted to know was how durable are the engines if constantly driven @ high rpm, cause I don't wanna do anything stupid, esp on a new car :roll:

I haven't read most of the replies, but just want to say this.

This may come as a shock for some of you, but engines are destructable! :P For some reason guys think VTEC's are indestructible. Yes you can hit VTEC everyday but if you drive like an idiot and bounce off the rev limiter all the time you will eventually blow the engine. If you regularly service the car and let it warm up etc before hitting VTEC, generally the engine will last a very long time. I used to hit VTEC in mine each time i drove it. Without fail. And never once did i have a problem or have to replace anything on the engine. But i didn't redline it each time and i didn't trash the car.

[ginganggooly]

well cheebye, to give u an idea....

first few cars i had i treated like dirt haha, prelude vtir: 250kms, didnt change oil or filter or air or sparks once in an 80k km period. stil runs fine, and runs well today

ITR, same abuse, over 50k kms currently at 130k kms no probs.

another 3 hondas, same sort of abuse in excess of 150k kms.

i dont hink u got anything to worry aboiut :)

note to self: do not buy used car from pornstar ;)

[Weq]

mines reaching 145,000k, boosted for 7k now. whooaa. no using one bit of oil either and im still running 5w30.

Just keep the maintenance up, always be aware of of sounds and the feeling of your car. If something doesnt feel right, check it out, and dont just think if it goes away that its all good again :)

[poid]

you're right Vic, engine's are destructible. However i haven't heard of a Honda engine crap itself because it was thrashed if that engine was well maintained and serviced.

In fact, it is worse for the engine if you drive like a granny and never engage VTEC, as things start seizing.

So feel free to give it a thrash now and then, though i cant bring myself to beat the crap out of the car non-stop :)

[pornstar]

vic is smolking bluntz again me finks, what u mean destructable??

[cheebye]

thx for the responses, MUCH appreciated! :D

when u guys say maintain it regularly, how often would that be? every 5-6000km's?? cause honda's scheduled is every 10,000km

[[zeth]]

Some people does it evey 5000k so they have good history when they want to re-sell..
but for me, I just do it every 10.000k or whenever the oil is bad :)

[vti-2]

vic is smolking bluntz again me finks, what u mean destructable??

:P

[poid]

cheebye just the standard Honda intervals are fine normaly, but yeh keep an eye on the oil and if it starts to look pretty bad then change it

[Creative]

How can u hit vtec and not hit redline??? - gotta take it all the way guys :lol:

I got my car at 28,000 and currently just passed 35,000 and Ive been driving it pretty hard for those 7,000kms hitting vtec quite regularly. My previous lude I drove semi hard for 120,000kms over 7 years and she was going strong the day I sold her.

I have faith in my Hondas :nod:

[cheebye]

wau! that's impressive. thx anyway, that gives me that re-assurance factor in my honda :D

[pornstar]

yeah dont worry its not a subaru or nissan,

[[zeth]]

yeah dont worry its not a subaru or nissan,

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA sensitive issue for someone who likes 200sx ^^ ain't it Matt :P :P

[cheebye]

]
yeah dont worry its not a subaru or nissan,

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA sensitive issue for someone who likes 200sx ^^ ain't it Matt :P :P

har har. :x

[felixR]

yeah do oilchange every 5000km..

and major every 20,000kms.. i think that's what the guys at hanny's said

[revolution]

yeah dont worry its not a subaru or nissan,

Yea LoL...My friends Rexxy crapped out at 20K kms...starting blowing white smoke from under the hood. I think they had to change the turbo or something.

[dc2r]

The DC5R does not have fuel cutout at 8500 or 9000 rpm. I think they're cutout if at about 8200 rpm. Well all I know is its lower than the DC2R. There's a thread about all the R info you need on these forums somewhere.

And one of the reasons I bought a Honda was for RELIABILTY in its cars. Thrash your car whatever... as long as you check the oil and maintain things regularly, then your Honda will be fine.

At 2600kms on the clock, I'm not sure if that's bad to be "thrashing" your car, but I know that the running in period for the DC2R motors happens in the factory. They leave the engine running for like 2 days straight or something so you can trakc the car straight after buying it. But personally, I still wouldn't do that and I would run it in for about the 1000 kms the dealers suggest. The life of your car depends on how you treat her for the first 50000 kms.

[cheebye]

cheers, that makes perfect sense. based on your last sentence
The life of your car depends on how you treat her for the first 50000 kms.

if the car is always in vtec zone or high rpm, but regularly maintained on good oil and stuff, how long would they last then? :)

[euGeR]

If you like to stay in high revs - get an oil cooler :thumbsup:
People will say its overkill for the street but it depends on how you drive.
Also its piece of mind for sustained high reving action :D

If you've ever seen the "Type R Legend" DVD - you will see that the oil temp becomes unstable and rises after 2 laps (approx 4mins)

[cheebye]

getting an oil cooler is overkill for street? meaning it's not necessary or.. ?

I think oil cooler's are a MUST if constant track use or hard daily driving. I don't do that. I enjoy the occassional squirt but otherwise I drive quite conservatively :D

[euGeR]

Sorry, thought I saw the words " thrashing, driving hard "......

just another cheebye driving like a grandma then... false alarm lol jks

[cheebye]

Sorry, thought I saw the words " thrashing, driving hard "......

just another cheebye driving like a grandma then... false alarm lol jks

HAHA! bastard.. :x