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REV888
08-06-2006, 11:29 AM
Just spoke to 2 dealerships & they advise me you can not fit 17" rims from a 05 Euro Lux onto a 04 Basic Euro. !!

Please tell me this is not true!:eek:

Chris_F
08-06-2006, 11:40 AM
The luxury rims from the 05 will 100% no doubt fit on the 04 euros. I think what the dealer was getting at is that they won't supply and fit them for you. They are now meant to be exclusive to the euro sports.

My advice is too look for a second hand set - youll have no problems fitting them :thumbsup:

Q_ball
08-06-2006, 11:43 AM
yeh, it sounds as tho they think that u want them to mix and match for you.
get the base model, and then source out the lux wheels privately.

SiReal
08-06-2006, 11:43 AM
i've heard that it also have to do with the suspension being a tad lower. But someone else please confirm

EuroDude
08-06-2006, 11:53 AM
Yep the sussy is about 1inch lower.





*bennjamin edit...Not relevant to the question at all :)*

coyote
08-06-2006, 04:25 PM
there's a set selling on eBay - auction closes in 10 minutes....

EuroDude
08-06-2006, 04:36 PM
My advice is too look for a second hand set - youll have no problems fitting them :thumbsup:

Yeh there was a set on eBay but it just closed for $1525


[edit] It was won by REV888, CONGRATS MAN!
Glad you found that eBay link I posted useful :)

REV888
08-06-2006, 04:48 PM
Yeh there was a set on eBay but it just closed for $1525


[edit] It was won by REV888, CONGRATS MAN!
Glad you found that eBay link I posted useful :)

YEP ! Look forward to fiiting them! Can't wait!

petsfact
08-06-2006, 07:42 PM
i think it has something to do with the turning circle basic model (such as mine) has shorter turning circle was wondering if larger wheel will create some disturbance.

but again, you don't turn your steering to the end all the time :) so screw it, i said PUT THEM ON they must look nice :)

Chris_F
08-06-2006, 08:06 PM
wow REV888, you must really like those rims :thumbsup: (haha i like them too :) - congrats)


17" are perfectly fine for the euro, especially OEM wheels designed to honda specified width and offset.

differences in suspension and turning circle are largely insignificant

REV888
09-06-2006, 12:25 AM
Yeah I always wanted thoese rims on my Euro ;)

Just waiting till i relly wear out my 16" tyres then will fit the 17'! Not long to go.

Chris_F
09-06-2006, 12:35 AM
good to hear! 17 are the way to go on euros :thumbsup:

yfin
09-06-2006, 01:09 AM
Yep the sussy is about 1inch lower.


*bennjamin edit...Not relevant to the question at all :)*

wheel arch gap when I measured it is the same between the standard and lux so I don't see how the suspension is 1 inch lower. 1 inch is a lot!

shane_stubbs
09-06-2006, 01:14 AM
yer i think its coz its 1inch lower.. go with da 17'z der da way 2go :)

yfin
09-06-2006, 01:16 AM
yer i think its coz its 1inch lower.. go with da 17'z der da way 2go :)

And you know this how - or is it speculation?

Entity
09-06-2006, 01:34 AM
dealers wont mix and match, but i dont see any reason why it will not fit.

i have also heard the suspension set up is slightly different but if you're gonna lower it anyway there isnt a huge difference.

yfin
09-06-2006, 01:37 AM
i have also heard the suspension set up is slightly different but if you're gonna lower it anyway there isnt a huge difference.

Is definately different suspension set up. I asked the dealer and they said the dampening was made softer for the lower profile tyres as well as feedback from owners that the ride on the Euro was too harsh.

Whether or not that is true or just an answer from a dealer for the sake of an answer I don't know.

REV888
09-06-2006, 09:23 AM
Well Yfin not long till I can give you an answer. I am so curious to know how the ride will be with 225/45 17". But time will tell! ;)

SiReal
09-06-2006, 09:35 AM
mate, just had a look at the auction - you paid a mega price! woot woot. but if you're happy, then every cent put out is worth it

yfin
09-06-2006, 09:42 AM
mate, just had a look at the auction - you paid a mega price! woot woot. but if you're happy, then every cent put out is worth it
Really? I think $1500 is a great price. I assume the tyres are in good condition though Rev888?

An even better deal would have been those beautiful gunmetal Honda 17" rims for sale I have seen in the for sale section for ages now. Drool...

shane_stubbs
09-06-2006, 09:44 AM
thats just wot ive heard from a few ppl..dat its 1" lower..so im not to sure..:)

yfin
09-06-2006, 09:48 AM
thats just wot ive heard from a few ppl..dat its 1" lower..so im not to sure..:)
fair enough - I measured using the "how many fingers" fit method so it is not precise. Maybe I am wrong but I think 1" difference between the models would be very noticeable. My car is dropped just over 1" (3cm) and that is very noticeable and is definately much lower than a stock lux.

EuroDude
09-06-2006, 09:58 AM
I think the standard euro's sussy is around 1inch lower because I have parked my Euro next to a Lux model with 17" wheels and I noticed quite a height difference - almost reaching 2 inches but I didnt measure it precisely.

I realise having 16" wheels would lower the car a bit compared to 17", but it seemed like there was something else other than the smaller wheels that made it lower.


Can anyone confirm this theory?
Maybe the workshop manual has some info :)

yfin
09-06-2006, 10:02 AM
I think the standard euro's sussy is around 1inch lower because I have parked my Euro next to a Lux model with 17" wheels and I noticed quite a height difference - almost reaching 2 inches but I didnt measure it precisely.

I realise having 16" wheels would lower the car a bit compared to 17", but it seemed like there was something else other than the smaller wheels that made it lower.

Can anyone confirm this theory?
Maybe the workshop manual has some info :)
Rolling tyre diameter between the 16 and 17 is pretty much the same so "height" shouldn't change just because of the rim size.

The way I was checking any differences (this was when the 17s were just released) was just checking the arch gap with my hand - which is still huge on the lux! I wouldn't be surprised if there is some difference but I still maintain 1" is a lot!

EuroDude
09-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Yeah there was definetely at least a 1inch (2.3cm) difference when I compared the overall height (I didnt compare the arch gaps).

I'll check the workshop manual when I get home later. It should specify the overall hight, or at least mention the sussy differences.

corn_flakes
09-06-2006, 10:13 AM
did someone just say the susp on the lux is about an inch lower than the standard??

EuroDude
09-06-2006, 10:23 AM
No the standard Euro's sussy appears to be lower than the lux.

aaronng
09-06-2006, 10:40 AM
Guys, you cannot compare a new euro with an older one (even if it is only 1 year). The suspension does sag and lower by about 1 inch. I just saw Bustersonic's 06 Lux, and his car is higher than my std 04. But give a year and his car will have the same ride height.

Anyway, it's the dealer pulling BS. Because look at the Euro Sport! It's a base Euro with a bodykit, black trim and 1/2 cloth 1/2 leather seats. And it has the 17" rims.

EuroDude
09-06-2006, 10:55 AM
Guys, you cannot compare a new euro with an older one (even if it is only 1 year). The suspension does sag and lower by about 1 inch. I just saw Bustersonic's 06 Lux, and his car is higher than my std 04. But give a year and his car will have the same ride height.


During March this year my brand new 06 std was compared to an 06 Lux side by side , and my car was considerably lower. At least an inch for sure.

aaronng
09-06-2006, 11:10 AM
During March this year my brand new 06 std was compared to an 06 Lux side by side , and my car was considerably lower. At least an inch for sure.
There is only 1 way to end this debate. Come to the meet tonight and park beside Bustersonic12. ;)

corn_flakes
09-06-2006, 11:13 AM
well look!

if u guys all wait till around 9pm when i get to the meet tonight, u can compare my standard 06 euro, with bustersonic's luxury 06 euro!

so yeh, lets end this debate, just *wink wink* wait for me tonight...:D


EDIT: i type slower than aaron...and hey, i'm carbon grey as well...so *wink wink* again

aaronng
09-06-2006, 11:44 AM
well look!

if u guys all wait till around 9pm when i get to the meet tonight, u can compare my standard 06 euro, with bustersonic's luxury 06 euro!

so yeh, lets end this debate, just *wink wink* wait for me tonight...:D

1/2 the people will drop dead from hungry by 9. hehehehe.... Fake diarrhea at 7:00pm.

corn_flakes
09-06-2006, 11:57 AM
i'll be there a few mins b4 9...just wait for me yo!...:p

food will taste better when u're more hungry! :D

aaronng
09-06-2006, 12:49 PM
i'll be there a few mins b4 9...just wait for me yo!...:p

food will taste better when u're more hungry! :D
PM me your phone number, I'll give you a call if they decide to leave before you get there.

aaronng
09-06-2006, 12:49 PM
i'll be there a few mins b4 9...just wait for me yo!...:p

food will taste better when u're more hungry! :D
PM me your phone number, I'll give you a call if they decide to leave before you get there.

REV888
09-06-2006, 05:04 PM
Really? I think $1500 is a great price. I assume the tyres are in good condition though Rev888?

An even better deal would have been those beautiful gunmetal Honda 17" rims for sale I have seen in the for sale section for ages now. Drool...


Yfin, Picked up the rims/tyres and oh my! They are damn fine! worse part of all of today! Get ready for this. :(

On the way to pick up the rims a women hit my poor euro in the rear! need a new bumper! this is the 2nd time this has happened to me and the car has only done 26500km not happy. The brighter side of things with regards tyre condition there perfect brand spanking new! Plenty of tread to burn :p Very happy with purchase over all.

tanalasta
09-06-2006, 05:21 PM
*laughs*

I have the 17" Euro Lux rims on my Euro Sport. And I say I love them :)
Take the hide out of the person who hit your car. I'd be sooo annoyed if it happened to me. Parking sensors / lights / rear underskirt / paint glazing redone (etc...) would cost a pretty penny if whoever it was wasn't uninsured in my case.

EuroDude
09-06-2006, 06:35 PM
bummer dude. Did you brake too quickly or something?

I always brake slowly in the wet because there are so many n00bs on the roads, either not paying attention, with bad brakes, drunk, on the phone, nervous driver, P platers, etc...

Suntzu
09-06-2006, 08:54 PM
Had 18"x7 on mine since the day I got my 05 standard. No issues, good ride, great handling- looks. Yeah they spewed on about Luxs are different susp etc for 17's but basically theres almost NO differnece. Just get the offset right. I got good quality lightweight alloys and that helps too. cheers