Bigger brakes - what's needed?

[DomenEK]

Thinking of getting slightly bigger brakes, but want to keep it at 4x100, and I also don't want to upset the front to rear braking bias.

Is it matter of getting bigger rotors front and rear, and new calipers? What can I source these off - a prelude? (not too sure on sizes, etc...)

[z3lda]

u can use prelude calipers and prelude rotors. 282mm disc, get them redrilled to 4x100

[Limbo]

Just get proper rotors from DBA or some reputable brand. i'm sure they have something for you. Vented and slotted also. Unless you have excessive power then i wouldn't bother with the rear, better pads would also help.

[aaronng]

Rotors alone doesn't increase the braking force. You have to change either the pads, or both the calipers or pads. Or go for a bigger brake kit.

[SiReal]

this is what was said on a US V6 accord site (6th gen) - that the v6 accord 98 - 02 uses the same caliper as found on the DC2R.

maybe u could confirm and head down to the wreckers for some cheap cheap accord/dc2r calipers.

[riceball]

Rotors alone doesn't increase the braking force. You have to change either the pads, or both the calipers or pads. Or go for a bigger brake kit.

Im pretty sure just changing the rotors make a difference to braking force. changing to ceramic pads surely does help, but just creating a bigger surface area on the disc will also increase stopping ability right?

[aimre]

well...

slotted rotors will get rid of hot gasses and also deglaze ur pads, might make braking abit better.

But then again, if u can lock your wheels, your brakes are obviously strong enough. The diffrence it, will they be able to do that after a few hard presses? here a slotted/drilled rotor will assist.

[aaronng]

Im pretty sure just changing the rotors make a difference to braking force. changing to ceramic pads surely does help, but just creating a bigger surface area on the disc will also increase stopping ability right?
Zero difference to braking force. Aimre is right. It does improve braking longevity. So you avoid brake fade or glazing for a little longer. But does not reduce your braking distance. Not even with slotted rotors!

If you change to larger discs but stay with the same calipers, then all you have done is create a larger metal body to absorb the heat. So all that happens is that you avoid brake fade.

Pads is the most cost efficient brake mod.

[Limbo]

too lazy to state now cos last post crashed. Bigger pad + bigger rotors will help, but cause lockups, get big wheels also. ;P
That's the short of it.

REM honda made your car to perform a certain way you affect alot of variables if you change too much unless you know what you are doing.

Just get some good pads that should be enough

[aaronng]

Pads first and see how it goes. If you change the front calipers, you should change the rears as well to maintain the same braking force balance. Someone upgraded his Civic's front brakes here but left the rears standard (drum brakes) and the rear tended to come out when braking because of the weight shift to the front due to having not enough braking force at the rear.

[destrukshn]

Zero difference to braking force. Aimre is right. It does improve braking longevity. So you avoid brake fade or glazing for a little longer. But does not reduce your braking distance. Not even with slotted rotors!

If you change to larger discs but stay with the same calipers, then all you have done is create a larger metal body to absorb the heat. So all that happens is that you avoid brake fade.

Pads is the most cost efficient brake mod.
but if it reduces brake fade, that does count in stoppin faster.

[aaronng]

but if it reduces brake fade, that does count in stoppin faster.
You won't get brake fade when driving on the streets unless you are doing something stupid. hehe. Even if you do a hard brake from 100km/h to 0km/h, it's not enough to cause brake fade. If you repeated that 2-3 times, then yes you would get brake fade. But changing the pads is a better way to overcome brake fade rather than relying on the rotors.

[aimre]

But if ur brakes can lock your wheels, uve already got more that enough power to cause traction to break between road and tire. Thus even with better pads, you wheels will just lock easier

Maybe better tyres would help

[fatboyz39]

having shit/crappy tyres can cause the brakes to lock up.

Upgrading to bigger rotors and calipers is a good way to make the car stop faster, just remeber to upgrade the brake booster/master cylinder to suit.

[bennjamin]

your brakes are only as good as the pads IMO...not to mention the tyres below :)

[destrukshn]

yups, tyres are 1 of the major factors.
but expensive as well.
lol.

[fatboyz39]

put semi's on and you'll pull up 50% faster :P