ITS ALL OVER

[Mitch M]

Thats right ... my civic is dead :(

It ate the oil faster than i ever could have contemplated ... i now face a spun bearing which means either:

- an engine rebuild
or
- B16A or something along those lines

unfortunately i haven't got money for either :(

Dunno ... oil was on EMPTY, it makes a fkt up noise now :( still have to get it checked out but i am pretty sure its over, this isn't covered by insurance either :( thanks to my stupid ass i am up to my arms in debt for no fkin reason now

Anyone want to buy the shell if it is fkt?

[Chi]

Get a s15 !!!!

Thats what im after now, slowly fading away from honda :P

Actualyl get a b16a, or a b18c better yet if you have the money.

[Mitch M]

Get a s15 !!!!

Thats what im after now, slowly fading away from honda :P

Actualyl get a b16a, or a b18c better yet if you have the money.

as i said i don't have n e money

how much would a B16A conversion cost me purchased and fitted etc.?

rough estimates people?

[-MuGen PoWer-]

this place in yenora called good performance quoted me
6000 drive in drive out, b16a motor, low km,
they quoted me 2500 for a ZC with low km

[Chi]

well b16as will be between 2000-3000 for a half cut not including installation.

But theyre really hard to find now, your best bet is to loosen a few bolts on a ek vti-r and then wait for it to crash and hopefully buy the half cut form it :P

[mo]

5-6k probably. Since you don't need the EFI conversion.

[Mitch M]

If anyone knows any place that will do the conversion for about 5.5k or less please PM me and tell me the number to call etc.

i need this sorted, looks to be more debt for me :(

[mo]

I'm not sure so don't quote me. As last time I saw a friend buy a b16a front cut for $2500 so I'm guessing labour is about 2-3k

But like I mentioned above, don't quote me mate.

[Mitch M]

Well with commonwealth it looks like i can borrow up 7200 ....

so if i do that it will be all good, but none the less its burying me in debt :(

[-MuGen PoWer-]

y dont u jsut go for the rebuild
it will b much cheaper and ur engine will b like new again

[Mitch M]

y dont u jsut go for the rebuild
it will b much cheaper and ur engine will b like new again

it will be around 3k ...

might as well fork out the rest ...

[bennjamin]

y dont u jsut go for the rebuild
it will b much cheaper and ur engine will b like new again

to add....put some freakin oil in the thing while it works....thats what you get for thrashing the poor thing.


id just get the ZC rebuilt Mitch. With decent mods its cheaper and better than a stoopid "VEETEKK" car anyday....

SO basically...get a rebuild or just cut ur losses and get a new car ffs...

[-MuGen PoWer-]

no way 3k for a rebuild
half of that

[-MuGen PoWer-]

hahah dats the way ben
NON VTEC!!

go the ZC

[mo]

I second what Bren has just said Mitch. Be different and don't get the B16A. It has been converted by many people and hearing people have fitted a B16A into there car just isn't exciting anymore. But hearing a ZC running 14s or something is very exciting :D

*Looks at Bren to run a 14 ;)*

[Mitch M]

well how much will this ZC rebuild cost me and where the fruck can i get it done?

[Chi]

ZCs should last a long time, Mugen Powers one has 300 000+ kms on it :P

*wink*

[-MuGen PoWer-]

haha Chi
its the 2nd engine n the engine is rebuilt
go to hanny's he does a good job
i got my one rebuilt with a heavy duty clutch
engine runs perfect!!

ps neva talk 2 rob about enigne mods or making ur car go faster. he'l give u a big lecture hahahaha

[bennjamin]

I second what Bren has just said Mitch. Be different and don't get the B16A. It has been converted by many people and hearing people have fitted a B16A into there car just isn't exciting anymore. But hearing a ZC running 14s or something is very exciting :D

*Looks at Bren to run a 14 ;)*

oooooh 14 la...on stock internal la....Trust me Mo...I have some future tricks in my bag ;)

Anyway - i guess out points are Mitch - look at it , money wise.
Think , money spent - versus money regained back.

You have Si = $8,000 or so
you want b16a conversion = $5,000 or so
plus all the go bits over time= another $5,000 or so...equals to atleast $18,000 or more...

Selling the car at max for $5,000 a few years later coz its "modified".....= priceless !

[Mitch M]

haha Chi
its the 2nd engine n the engine is rebuilt
go to hanny's he does a good job
i got my one rebuilt with a heavy duty clutch
engine runs perfect!!

"its the 2nd engine n the engine is rebuilt" ... ?? made no sense to me

and all i am really concerned about is cost?

[Chi]

haha Chi
its the 2nd engine n the engine is rebuilt
go to hanny's he does a good job
i got my one rebuilt with a heavy duty clutch
engine runs perfect!!

ps neva talk 2 rob about enigne mods or making ur car go faster. he'l give u a big lecture hahahaha

I knew that it was a 2nd engine 'la', you told me ages ago 'la', geez if u kept it quiet it woulda made the ZC sounded like a lasting engine 'la'. lol

[Mitch M]

I second what Bren has just said Mitch. Be different and don't get the B16A. It has been converted by many people and hearing people have fitted a B16A into there car just isn't exciting anymore. But hearing a ZC running 14s or something is very exciting :D

*Looks at Bren to run a 14 ;)*

oooooh 14 la...on stock internal la....Trust me Mo...I have some future tricks in my bag ;)

Anyway - i guess out points are Mitch - look at it , money wise.
Think , money spent - versus money regained back.

You have Si = $8,000 or so
you want b16a conversion = $5,000 or so
plus all the go bits over time= another $5,000 or so...equals to atleast $18,000 or more...

Selling the car at max for $5,000 a few years later coz its "modified".....= priceless !

having no car to get to work = $0
getting fire due to no friggen car = ABSOLUTELY FKT

[-MuGen PoWer-]

its the 2nd engine
and its done 150,000 km on the enigne

but i recently jsut got it rebuilt coz my piston rings were worn out n it was blowing smoke.

ur lookin around 1600

[Mitch M]

its the 2nd engine
and its done 150,000 km on the enigne

but i recently jsut got it rebuilt coz my piston rings were worn out n it was blowing smoke.

ur lookin around 1600

to rebuild my current D16A?

[-MuGen PoWer-]

yupz!!! :D

my engine is hte same as urz

[mo]

I second what Bren has just said Mitch. Be different and don't get the B16A. It has been converted by many people and hearing people have fitted a B16A into there car just isn't exciting anymore. But hearing a ZC running 14s or something is very exciting :D

*Looks at Bren to run a 14 ;)*

oooooh 14 la...on stock internal la....Trust me Mo...I have some future tricks in my bag ;)

Anyway - i guess out points are Mitch - look at it , money wise.
Think , money spent - versus money regained back.

You have Si = $8,000 or so
you want b16a conversion = $5,000 or so
plus all the go bits over time= another $5,000 or so...equals to atleast $18,000 or more...

Selling the car at max for $5,000 a few years later coz its "modified".....= priceless !

Ditto to that and to add onto Bren's post Mitch...

What do you want out of your Civic?

Don't jump to a conclusion. Take your time and think seriously. Are you planning on getting a new car sooner or later?

[Mitch M]

I second what Bren has just said Mitch. Be different and don't get the B16A. It has been converted by many people and hearing people have fitted a B16A into there car just isn't exciting anymore. But hearing a ZC running 14s or something is very exciting :D

*Looks at Bren to run a 14 ;)*

oooooh 14 la...on stock internal la....Trust me Mo...I have some future tricks in my bag ;)

Anyway - i guess out points are Mitch - look at it , money wise.
Think , money spent - versus money regained back.

You have Si = $8,000 or so
you want b16a conversion = $5,000 or so
plus all the go bits over time= another $5,000 or so...equals to atleast $18,000 or more...

Selling the car at max for $5,000 a few years later coz its "modified".....= priceless !

Ditto to that and to add onto Bren's post Mitch...

What do you want out of your Civic?

Don't jump to a conclusion. Take your time and think seriously. Are you planning on getting a new car sooner or later?

very later ... very very later ...

[bigteethygrin]

If it still just barely drives you could always just park it in redfern with the windows down.. I'm sure insurance would cough up onces the locals are through with it

[Mitch M]

If it still just barely drives you could always just park it in redfern with the windows down.. I'm sure insurance would cough up onces the locals are through with it

it still drives

thinking of driving it straight into a pole at the current moment :(

[CTR Coupe]

Insurance fraud really should be in PMs. LOL

On a serious note. If u have no cash. Rebuild it. Putting a new engine in it (something It didn’t come with b16a etc) will jack your insurance premiums. Plus u will never get that money back if u sell it. If you’re going down that road anyway now is the perfect time to do it. If I was broke like you I would just rebuild it.

[Setanta]

I'm with the others, while the B16A is a sound engine, I'm not overly impressed with it after 3 1/2 years of owning one. If you are on the budget, just swap in a second hand low km motor, dont even bother with a rebuild. Later on you can rebuild and turbo your stuffed motor and have something which will chew up and spit out a NA B16A :)

[geo41e]

yeah, Rob at hannys do a good jb in rebuilding engines, gear boxes and stuff. He's a family friend, and he's known me since i wus born. lols.

and yeah, dun talk bout modifying ya car, i did once and he threw a shoe at me while at the work shop when i used to work there.

i wanna getta H22A in my EG5, i want more torque. However the H22a won't beat a b18c7 (or wateva it is..itr) huh ?

[Mitch M]

yeah, Rob at hannys do a good jb in rebuilding engines, gear boxes and stuff. He's a family friend, and he's known me since i wus born. lols.

and yeah, dun talk bout modifying ya car, i did once and he threw a shoe at me while at the work shop when i used to work there.

i wanna getta H22A in my EG5, i want more torque. However the H22a won't beat a b18c7 (or wateva it is..itr) huh ?

lol i just talked to himn about a B16A or B18C conversion

n e ways

verdict from Hanny's is that:
- If there is extensive crank shaft damage then he won't touch it unless i am putting in a new engine [i think there has been rather large damage :(]
- If not then he said he will rebuild for $1400

[Mitch M]

After an extensive chat to honda they said they will release the B50B for trial in my car. 5L Vtec, 8 Cylinder

LOL

man i am bored without a car :( my car died last night and i became sick the next morning :(

[fueltank]

call up a wrecker and put in another motor the same.
and next time check your oil :P

[ML]

get a nother si engin look around i got one fited for under 2000 and besides if u are gonna do the car up it is better than the vtec because it is the same size 1.6 but it has the twin cam. and the single cam engins have a different size gear box cv joint hole ( i hav just found this out i am getting a new gear box they sent me the wrong one )oh yeah hi every one. :P

[**Ghost**]

i'm goign to check my oil right now.... u meant engine oil yeh?

and man, it shouldnt cost that much for a rebuilt... i was talking to a mechanic about my timing belt today for a b16A AND he goes that if it snaps etc etc... it'll cost me almost a 1k to rebuild...

and btw, i have a guy in melb who would probably do it for 4k, b16A conversion... dont know if he still has the motor tho... he owns a small shop in blackburn

[pornstar]

meh mitch, i used to get zcs and d engines for like less than 500 man, that long motor and thats all u need.

[Mitch M]

meh mitch, i used to get zcs and d engines for like less than 500 man, that long motor and thats all u need.

any help on where i could find one would be much appreciated

would be nice to get JDM

[Mitch M]

i'm goign to check my oil right now.... u meant engine oil yeh?

yeh thats the sh*t :(


unfortunately the sump is fked, the crank shafts are bent and a whole heap of other sh*t

It will cost me as much as a new engine to fix the friggen thing and then the bastard would be too weak :(

[**Ghost**]

are u in Vic man? if so i'll give u that guy's number... he seems pretty experienced, tho i only got a service from him once before finding a family friend... he's got his own project car, Eg Vti change to B16a, so he knows wot he's doing... and i defiintely saw a B16A in his garage, i was going to get it but my parents decided to lend me money to buy my current ride

[Mitch M]

are u in Vic man? if so i'll give u that guy's number... he seems pretty experienced, tho i only got a service from him once before finding a family friend... he's got his own project car, Eg Vti change to B16a, so he knows wot he's doing... and i defiintely saw a B16A in his garage, i was going to get it but my parents decided to lend me money to buy my current ride

nope Sydney mate :(

n e one know how much a JDM D16A will cost me ... fitted into my bay/.?

[sivic]

whatever you can get the engine for plus about $400- $500 labour. just be aware that there could be some unforeseen issues in fitting it. especially if it comes out of a JDM crx. some of the manifold mounts are slightly different but nothing major. i know first hand from swapping in a JDM ZC after finding some crankshaft issues with the existing D16A.

[wynode]

SO you spun a bearing because of the lack of oil yeah?

[Mitch M]

SO you spun a bearing because of the lack of oil yeah?

and a whole heap of other sh*t :(

[Weq]

There isa guy on the forum selling a d16y1 for ~600 which includes a gearbox. why dont u grab that? even if its in another state, + 200 for shipping and u got urself a new engine and box - $400 for fitting

[XXpl0Sive]

I feel for you mate.
Good luck in your next car.

[Mitch M]

I feel for you mate.
Good luck in your next car.

next engine

won't be gettting a new car

[wynode]

Doubt its new Weq ;)

Geez mitch....shame on you for not checking your oil! Spinning a bearing is quite serious........your crank has probably twisted and once thats done its probably not worth rebuilding :(

[Mitch M]

Doubt its new Weq ;)

Geez mitch....shame on you for not checking your oil! Spinning a bearing is quite serious........your crank has probably twisted and once thats done its probably not worth rebuilding :(

bearing is spun, crank is twisted and the sump is fkin damaged. Hence when the pistons go up and down, due to the sump being fked, they are working un lubricated.

Makes a pretty ugly noise. :( I couldn't care less if it had blown up during one of my thrash sessions, but the fact that it is something so trivial that i neglected to check .... that just p*sses me off :(

[Mitch M]

As soon as i get my car back on the road ... i am going to organise a big cruise :P

[pgclee]

are you in melb?

try Pro tech...i promise you that they will do a good job...

[EKIV]

Give u a Good News Mitch M.
MY FRIEND CAN do a TRANSPLANT for u at around 4000 . including the HALF CUT . the half CUT is in Melbourne already.PM ME FOR MORE DETAIL

[Mitch M]

Give u a Good News Mitch M.
MY FRIEND CAN do a TRANSPLANT for u at around 4000 . including the HALF CUT . the half CUT is in Melbourne already.PM ME FOR MORE DETAIL

With the damage i cannot use a half cut, i need a whole long engine. And 4k for a D16A transplant ... i could almost get a B16A done at Hanny's for that price ...

+ i am in Sydney

but thanks heaps for the offer mate!

[bigteethygrin]

I think I'm gonna check my oil today.. I just feel paranoid after reading this hey

[Mitch M]

I think I'm gonna check my oil today.. I just feel paranoid after reading this hey

thats one of my main reasons for posting it up here

you shouldn't even let your oil get down to half, because on a hill, it won't grab any oil and splash it up into the piston to lubricate it. Try to keep your oil as full as possible!!

[Weq]

With the damage i cannot use a half cut, i need a whole long engine. And 4k for a D16A transplant ... i could almost get a B16A done at Hanny's for that price ...

+ i am in Sydney

but thanks heaps for the offer mate!

Lol mitch, he doesnt man short block of an engine, he means he can convert your car to a b16a with a b16a halfcut (includes everything in the engine bay, brakes + dash). Pitty ur not in melbourne, sounds like a good deal!

[Mitch M]

ahhh k

bugger :(

pitty i can't take the time off work to go get it done

If i could it would be worth driving down there :(

[CTR Coupe]

Actually the dip stick only measures the first litre of oil(in most engines) and its better to have the oil a little bit down rather than over filled