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[[d a n n y]]
16-06-2006, 03:27 PM
the MR2 turo C26 i believe (same as the Celica GT4)
how would that go on a b16a?
what will be the rev range be like?
what are the pro's and cons

any1 got experience wit it??

aaronng
16-06-2006, 03:33 PM
3S-GTE. Nice turbo engine. Cons is that if you really work the engine for high power outputs, you'll die if it snaps a rod through the block because the engine is right behind you. Seriously, there has already been at least 1 death in the US.

BlitZ
16-06-2006, 04:03 PM
]']the MR2 tub C26 i believe (same as the Celica GT4)
how would that go on a b16a?
what will be the rev range be like?
what are the pro's and cons

any1 got experience wit it??

they are meant to be one of the best OEM turbos...
from memory,.. they are twin entry ceramic turbos.. they work really really well after hi flow/hybrid rebuild :thumbsup:

The mr2 gets max boost at about 3rpm... but that STD.

[[d a n n y]]
16-06-2006, 04:08 PM
3S-GTE. Nice turbo engine. Cons is that if you really work the engine for high power outputs, you'll die if it snaps a rod through the block because the engine is right behind you. Seriously, there has already been at least 1 death in the US.

huh?

the turbo not the engine

aaronng
16-06-2006, 04:11 PM
]']huh?

the turbo not the engine
Ooops, my bad. :o

SMEAGLE
16-06-2006, 04:14 PM
mr2 turbo would spank the b16a out of the water unless you are running at least cams + hondata +etc....
the 3sgte is suppose to be one of the best and advanced oem turbo motors out there, toyota put alot of research and enginneering into building the engine.
but if you were to line them up, say a eg b16a and mr2 turbo,,, i would put my life on the mr2 unless it was a complete nugget...

barefootbonzai
16-06-2006, 04:17 PM
mr2 turbo would spank the b16a out of the water unless you are running at least cams + hondata +etc....
the 3sgte is suppose to be one of the best and advanced oem turbo motors out there, toyota put alot of research and enginneering into building the engine.
but if you were to line them up, say a eg b16a and mr2 turbo,,, i would put my life on the mr2 unless it was a complete nugget...

lol, i dont' think his asking mr2 turbo vs b16. His asking how would the turbo from the mr2 go on a b16 engine.

[[d a n n y]]
16-06-2006, 04:18 PM
mr2 turbo would spank the b16a out of the water unless you are running at least cams + hondata +etc....
the 3sgte is suppose to be one of the best and advanced oem turbo motors out there, toyota put alot of research and enginneering into building the engine.
but if you were to line them up, say a eg b16a and mr2 turbo,,, i would put my life on the mr2 unless it was a complete nugget...

wtf u on about

it says on the topic
MR2 turbo (C26) how would it go on a b16a
not who would win.
wtf? plz every1 read properly b4 answering

SMEAGLE
16-06-2006, 04:20 PM
haha alrite..
i speak england very best

joyride
16-06-2006, 04:45 PM
dont know much about C26 turbos but if its a ceramic turbine and its used, i'd steer clear of it (same with the T28)

Limbo
16-06-2006, 05:16 PM
i think the turbo migh be abit large for a b16, might have alot of lag. Rem MR2 is a 2ltr whilst your b16 is a 1.6, but then again isn't it a twin entry turbo so it might be alright.....

anyway my friend managed a 13s pass in his MR2 with full exhaust, dump pipe and CAI, the mid-ship launch bloody great.......

saxman
17-06-2006, 08:36 AM
i think the turbo migh be abit large for a b16, might have alot of lag. Rem MR2 is a 2ltr whilst your b16 is a 1.6, but then again isn't it a twin entry turbo so it might be alright.....

anyway my friend managed a 13s pass in his MR2 with full exhaust, dump pipe and CAI, the mid-ship launch bloody great.......
I'm going to disagree entirely here...

most oem turbos are already too small for the motor they come on. Also, due to the lower comp ratio, and likely lower v/e of the motor, it's not comparable to a honda motor.

If anything, it's probably too small for a b16


look at wrx turbos... even the ones for the 2.5l motors are WWWAAAYYYY tiny compared to something one would normally run on a b16... same concept

dsp26
17-06-2006, 09:02 AM
I'm going to disagree entirely here...

most oem turbos are already too small for the motor they come on. Also, due to the lower comp ratio, and likely lower v/e of the motor, it's not comparable to a honda motor.

If anything, it's probably too small for a b16


look at wrx turbos... even the ones for the 2.5l motors are WWWAAAYYYY tiny compared to something one would normally run on a b16... same concept

thats what i was going to say... CT26 from memory too looks about the same as a T25 but different flange. a mate of mine has a high flowed one on his rebuilt 3sgte... he managed 12.8sec.

however a hi flowed t25g would shit on that.

i'd steer clear of ceramic turbos... i had a ct9 in my gt starlet... ****ing fin broke off and blew the engine... but luckily it happened to the new owner who thought it would be mad to free spool it with only 3cyls firing hehehe

SIKCVC
17-06-2006, 10:11 PM
i'd steer clear of ceramic turbos... i had a ct9 in my gt starlet... ****ing fin broke off and blew the engine... but luckily it happened to the new owner who thought it would be mad to free spool it with only 3cyls firing hehehe

mad!!!

saxman
17-06-2006, 10:39 PM
hmmm... spooling it with three cylinders firing... probably managed to get some gas to combust in the turbo... certainly not a good thing

[[d a n n y]]
18-06-2006, 02:02 PM
thats what i was going to say... CT26 from memory too looks about the same as a T25 but different flange. a mate of mine has a high flowed one on his rebuilt 3sgte... he managed 12.8sec.

however a hi flowed t25g would shit on that.

i'd steer clear of ceramic turbos... i had a ct9 in my gt starlet... ****ing fin broke off and blew the engine... but luckily it happened to the new owner who thought it would be mad to free spool it with only 3cyls firing hehehe

how about a highflowed T3?

dsp26
18-06-2006, 03:07 PM
i asked a turbo question on here a while ago regarding flanges and majority vote was using T3 turbos and T2's second. don't bother with the CT26.

i'm sure the others can chime in from here in regards to T3 flanged setups as there are a few variants/hybrids... as for high flowing any turbo benefits from it though i'm not sure on the exact results on T3s.

theres a shop in NSW that Extrude hones turbos (housings and turbine) and rebuilds with nitrate bearings...

Weq
18-06-2006, 11:28 PM
if u run a CT26, u will need a twin entry manifold to get the best out of it. I think its a decent turbo for a b16a. what are they rated at? 320-350hp?

dsp26
19-06-2006, 12:29 AM
what are they rated at? 320-350hp?

lol fark no.. maybe a high flowed one.

i could have my mentally wrong but i always thought a small bottom end turbo would be awesome on a vtec car as opposed to really big, spool massive later in the rpm types at the same time as bigger cam profile kicks in. means you don't really have much going for ya in city/street driving but would be good for nothing more than track. or am i wrong??

arron
19-06-2006, 12:26 PM
i believe the CT26 is rated at 300hp... from wot ive heard anyway

Weq
19-06-2006, 04:45 PM
i believe the CT26 is rated at 300hp... from wot ive heard anyway

cheers

Dtegra
20-06-2006, 02:19 AM
CT26 325hp rated ... its the biggest turbo to come out on a factory car try to argue with me its the Truth..aside the new XR6 turbos CT26 biggest OEM turbo

Weq
21-06-2006, 12:50 AM
CT26 is a big turbo, no doubt. dont under estimate it.. its all about weather or not u want to go the CT flange as its a bit rarer... t3 and t2 are very common on honda's.

Twincam16
25-06-2006, 08:19 PM
Easy solution... run twins on a custom manifold... :)

saxman
25-06-2006, 08:40 PM
Easy solution... run twins on a custom manifold... :)
1 exhaust pulse per rpm? no thanks!

superR
25-06-2006, 09:10 PM
mr2 turbos rule

superR
25-06-2006, 09:11 PM
OMY-20L is a ***n quick mr2

eg_08_wa
26-06-2006, 02:43 AM
CT26 325hp rated ... its the biggest turbo to come out on a factory car try to argue with me its the Truth..aside the new XR6 turbos CT26 biggest OEM turbo

there is a bigger one..i always thought ct26 was until my mechanic showed me the ct29 or wassit 92 shrugs but there is a bigger than the ct26 oem