jap b16a - how do i find if its a b16a2,3,4,or 1

[FastFwd]

hey guys

i have a jap b16a motor, i have been told its a b16a2 but i think otherwize as it has a obd1 ecu.

i also have been told the serial number under the b16a model number on the motor which is 5602612 is what determines the b16a1,2,3,4 part of the motor.

could anyone tell me what engine mine is

[barefootbonzai]

b16a is b16a. This just means it's jap spec. As if it's Gen 1 or Gen 2, you can tell by looking a serveral little things like dizzy, injectors etc...

The guy you brought it from probably meant it's a Gen 2 b16a.

[Limbo]

No i've seen some engine stamped b16a1 mine's stamped b16a2, It depends when and where it was stamped. I know some of the US ones are stamped b16a3.

Usually the b16a first gen have the cable slectors & gen 2 has the rods

[FastFwd]

no b16a does not meen its jap spec.

you can get b16a non jap spec, sold in australia.

the jap spec motors were only stamped at b16a even if its b16a2 3 4 or 1 for that matter. the serial number underneith determines the model or year.

b16a1 japspec is 92 to 95ish and b16a2 is 96-00. i was told i have a b16a2 imported from japan when i got my conversion BUT!! i have obd1 not obd2. obd2 comes in the new models obd1 comes in the older models likes b16a1

b16a1 also come with cable box not hydrolic and rod.

[FastFwd]

can anyone tell me what model my motor is which that serial number:

5602612

thats all i want to know

[SMEAGLE]

its a jap spec because as you can see, the serial number is in fibonaci sequence..

cheers

[crxtasy]

The B16a2 is OBD-1.

B16a1..88-91..obd0
B16a2..92-96..obd1
B16a?..96+.....obd2

Does that sort anything out?

[tRipitaka]

no b16a does not meen its jap spec.

you can get b16a non jap spec, sold in australia.

the jap spec motors were only stamped at b16a even if its b16a2 3 4 or 1 for that matter. the serial number underneith determines the model or year.

b16a does mean it's japspec..

if it's stamped..

B16A
*******

it'll be japspec, as japspec engines do not have a number on the end of the B16A.. compared to, for example, an AUDM b16a engine will have..

B16A2
*******

the easiest way to see whether your engine is first gen or second gen is to look at the rocker cover.. (aslong as it still uses the stock rocker that it came with) the DOHC will be bigger than the VTEC if it's gen one, and the VTEC will be bigger than the DOHC if it's gen two.



b16a1 japspec is 92 to 95ish and b16a2 is 96-00. i was told i have a b16a2 imported from japan when i got my conversion BUT!! i have obd1 not obd2. obd2 comes in the new models obd1 comes in the older models likes b16a1

b16a1 also come with cable box not hydrolic and rod.
first gen b16a japspec is 88 (???) - 91
second gen b16a japspec is 92 - 98

88-91 jspec first gen b16a uses OBD0 and cable gearbox as stated..

92-95 jspec second gen b16a uses OBD1 and a hydraulic gearbox..

96-98 jspec second gen b16a uses OBD2a and a hydraulic gearbox..

[tRipitaka]

also, some more information..

AUDM second gen b16a's first came in the CRX del sol.. in 1992-95..
92-95 = OBD1

then they came in both the CRX del sols and the CIVIC VTIR HATCH (EK4) from 96-98..
96-98 = OBD2a

then lastly, the second gen b16a's came in the CIVIC VTIR COUPE (EM1) from 99-00..
99-00 = OBD2b

I believe Japan stopped producing second gen b16a's in 1998..

[Limbo]

what about later model crxs? They came in gen 2 b16a and were built after 1998.

FF - your best bet is to ring honda Aust and get them to check the code for you.

[tRipitaka]

what about later model crxs?
how late is late ? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Limbo]

I believe they came out in 2000 ish

[tRipitaka]

CRX ?
crx stopped production in 97/98

[FastFwd]

yeh i was going to ring honda at a last resort. i just blew my motor and im starting to figure out that i might have got gipped. not 100% sure yet but i deffinatly have an obd1 and was promissed a 99-00 b16a japspec - (b16a2) out of a crx....like Limbo said
I believe they came out in 2000 ish

off the subject but does anyone know what a rough estimate on a New stock rebuild would cost. one of my pistons are knocking. ran extremely low on oil because the guy that installed my motor forgot to fix the oil light after i asked him 3 times. anyways i think i might of done a bottom end bearing. if anyone could give me a rough estimate or what they did to resolve the issue easier.

ta

[z3lda]

theres no such thing as 99-00 jspec b16a.

there is how ever a 99-00 b16a from the usdm em1's and the edm limited edition 'Jordan Edition' ek hatchs

jspec b16a stop production in 98.

[saxman]

wow you people make things difficult


B16A = jdm spec b16 motor, regardless of generation. If it came in a car from japan, it's a b16a

B16A1 came in the non japanese gen 2 crx's

B16A2 came in the obd2 non japanese b16 powered vehicles. This means 96-97 USDM del sols, 99-00 usdm civic Si, and similar vehicles. In australia and some european models, the 93-95 del sols came with b16a2's as well.

The b16a3 was the obd1 non japanese motor(except australia and some of the euro cars). Usdm 93-95 del sol, etc.



The b16 powered del sols stopped production as a 97 model year. The 98 models were left over european del sol esi's. Only offered with the d16y8 motor.


Long story short, if it has a b16 in it, and is a jdm model, it's a B16A without a number on the end.

[barefootbonzai]

thank you very much saxman!!! Difficult alright, so annoying yet i can't stay away.

[kraiye]

does anyone know how to decipher the serial numbers stamped on the engine.
basically, i'm after a '98 or later b16a and need to be able to work out what year an engine was made.
apparently you cant drop an engine in your car if its older than the body.
i saw a thread with this info but damed if i could find it again
:(
the main reason i wanna go legit is for insurance.

[barefootbonzai]

looks like you're in brisbane, give us a holla if you're for real. I can help you out with the whole conversion process.

[FastFwd]

i dont think anyone here actually knows, i tried asking the same thing but everyone tires to tell me what model engines are which.

i just want to know what yr my engine is via the STAMP number next to the b16a

[kraiye]

looks like you're in brisbane, give us a holla if you're for real. I can help you out with the whole conversion process.
pm'd... deffinately for real, just need to save for labour (and maybe a bit extra)


... i just want to know what yr my engine is via the STAMP number next to the b16a
exactly, or if theres another way to tell what year?

[barefootbonzai]

i dont think anyone here actually knows, i tried asking the same thing but everyone tires to tell me what model engines are which.

i just want to know what yr my engine is via the STAMP number next to the b16a

you're an complete ediot. your question from your orginal post has be answered by myself and some others in this thread (note there was a bunch of guys who giving you false info).

If you just wanted to know the year you could have just asked, and no there is no magical way of working it out from the number below the b16a. The year of the eninge is stamped on the head, just above the headers. Talk about complicating things.

[90xsi]

The year of the engine is stamped on the head, just above the headers.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
should be some numbers in a circle of the year

[VT3C]

fk sake guys.. only post on a techical thread if you KNOW the answer... moderators need to go through this thread (an others) and delete the responses which may mislead the thread author or any other newbies who may read the thread and end up confused beyond all belief.

maybe OZH moderators need to set up a technical knowledge "rep" system rather than just 'moderator-butt-kissing-rep' and 'trader-rep'... which is basically useless.

[bennjamin]

fk sake guys.. only post on a techical thread if you KNOW the answer... moderators need to go through this thread (an others) and delete the responses which may mislead the thread author or any other newbies who may read the thread and end up confused beyond all belief.

maybe OZH moderators need to set up a technical knowledge "rep" system rather than just 'moderator-butt-kissing-rep' and 'trader-rep'... which is basically useless.



Agree with first issue.
BTW , we already have set up a technical knowledge rep system...which is not influenced at all by moderator butt kissing or trader rep. Nothing to do with it - dont post up such squabble :)

[BananaBoat]

yeh i was going to ring honda at a last resort. i just blew my motor and im starting to figure out that i might have got gipped.

I'm gonna guess, you blew your motor because you've turbod it on the cheap & used shithouse engine management

Correct me if i'm wrong.

[VT3C]

BTW , we already have set up a technical knowledge rep system...which is not influenced at all by moderator butt kissing or trader rep. Nothing to do with it - dont post up such squabble :)

sorry to HiJack the thread but Ben where is this tech/rep system ?

[bennjamin]

sorry to HiJack the thread but Ben where is this tech/rep system ?

Here you go...was discussed quite abit not too long ago.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31660
As it goes...in general the more helpful tech advisers in here have more "rep" points ofcourse. Refer to that thread for more info.

This question has been answered btw. Next time post in the noob forum or search for covered info

[VT3C]

noob forum ? i'm not a noob as you well know.. however unlike most others i dont spend all day going through general topic threads - i only read technical and model specific info threads etc.. so you as admin cannot rely on ALL members having read ALL posts in ALL threads. your role as a moderator is not to just aswer "so search" bro.. if you are asked a question - answer it -as you did.. but then leave off the attitude..

[FastFwd]

I'm gonna guess, you blew your motor because you've turbod it on the cheap & used shithouse engine management

Correct me if i'm wrong.

No i have an apexi power FC running 6 psi of boost with standard internals.

the reason it blew was because "a performance shop in perth" which im not disclosing the name couldnt install my engine properly, and not connecting the oil light even after i asked them about 8-10 times to fix it, they still didnt. the reason i stopped asking because the eventually started to stuff up the reast of my car when trying to fix problems they made.

eventually when i was driving down the freeway it ran low on oil and started to knock.

[FastFwd]

I'm gonna guess, you blew your motor because you've turbod it on the cheap & used shithouse engine management

Correct me if i'm wrong.

No i have an apexi power FC running 6 psi of boost with standard internals.

the reason it blew was because "a performance shop in perth" which im not disclosing the name couldnt install my engine properly, and not connecting the oil light even after i asked them about 8-10 times to fix it, they still didnt. the reason i stopped asking because the eventually started to stuff up the reast of my car when trying to fix problems they made.

eventually when i was driving down the freeway it ran low on oil and started to knock.

[FastFwd]

I'm gonna guess, you blew your motor because you've turbod it on the cheap & used shithouse engine management

Correct me if i'm wrong.

No i have an apexi power FC running 6 psi of boost with standard internals.

it blew because of lack of oil - caused by the performance shop not installing my engine properly

[FastFwd]

meh internals going in this week...cant wait

[FastFwd]

meh internals going in this week...cant wait

[BananaBoat]

eventually when i was driving down the freeway it ran low on oil and started to knock.

People like you don't deserve to drive performance vehicles.

[FastFwd]

People like you don't deserve to drive performance vehicles.

how about you understand the facts before you judge me. i said my engine was incorrectly installed by a performance shop that recently went under because of warranty issues not from just myself.

i had an oil leek plus my oil light wasnt working. could give you a list of over 20 other problems but YOU DONT KNOW THAT DO YOU. so how bout you dont judge me and use this forum for help and assistance which it was made for and not to critisize people like me who just come in here for help and not to listen to little S$@TS like you.

[BananaBoat]

All I know is that regarless of OIL LIGHT, you have a dip stick you DIP STICK!

or do you need a DIY for checking your oil level?

[bennjamin]

This has been answered and will be closed to prevent any further unneeded agro.

Please post up unknown questions like this in the noob forum in future as there is a better chance of a simpel correct answer :)