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nugget666
26-06-2006, 05:01 PM
I would like to order some camber kits for my 99 ek civic.


I got quoted 400$ for the rear and 1000$ for the front. from pedders. witch is totaly ridculious to me.


I have seen some skunk2 front and rear kits for 230$ us.


Im after a front and rear that i can buy localy. as i dont want to order a kit from over sea's


the camber after my wheel alignment is

front - 1.05/ - 0.54

rear -1.54 / -2.37

toe is

front + 2.4

rear +4


all jsut from lows :o


so anyone information please.

Anything i can get localy deliverd?

nugget666
26-06-2006, 05:55 PM
I have found these.

http://www.modproject.com.au/estore/index.php?cPath=30_80
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it dosnt state what honda they are for. or are the parts interchangable netween all hondas?

SiReal
26-06-2006, 05:56 PM
Have u even had a wheel aligntment yet after lowering? You'r toe should be set to 0, not +4!!! and that is for all four wheels. I lowered my accord more than your car, and the toe is now set at zero (thanks to bob jane)

As for camber kit, source a kit from the states. Just have to find someone local to install it for you thats all. You will be hard pressed to find a cheap proper camber kit locally for a honda. maybe for a commodore no probs, but not a honda civic EK1.

or else learn the washer bolt method - do a search

bennjamin
26-06-2006, 05:58 PM
check www.whiteline.com.au (http://www.whiteline.com.au) for good local deals on front n rear camber kits.
BTW your camber isnt too bad...BUT you need your toe adjusted to 0 otherwise it will eat up your tyres pretty bad

nugget666
26-06-2006, 06:05 PM
Have u even had a wheel aligntment yet after lowering? You'r toe should be set to 0, not +4!!! and that is for all four wheels. I lowered my accord more than your car, and the toe is now set at zero (thanks to bob jane)

As for camber kit, source a kit from the states. Just have to find someone local to install it for you thats all. You will be hard pressed to find a cheap proper camber kit locally for a honda. maybe for a commodore no probs, but not a honda civic EK1.

or else learn the washer bolt method - do a search


I had a wheel alignment done at bob jane.

they gave me a slip saying.

toe in/out before -5 left - 7 right after it was +2 left -4 right |

before on the rear is +9-1 and after is +4 - 0

is there toe adjustable bits on the car or do i need aftermarket bits to fix that ?


or should they be bale to get it on 0 toe with out modifications?

destrukshn
26-06-2006, 06:08 PM
maybe, somethings bent and buckled?
lol.

SiReal
26-06-2006, 06:20 PM
hmm...maybe for civics, that is stock toe specifications. for accords its 0. i'm not too sure then. but theere are little washer looking things they turn to adjust toe. on all cars. so if they say theyve done it right, then u sohould be ok.

nugget666
26-06-2006, 06:26 PM
hmm...maybe for civics, that is stock toe specifications. for accords its 0. i'm not too sure then. but theere are little washer looking things they turn to adjust toe. on all cars. so if they say theyve done it right, then u sohould be ok.


so there shouldnt be any reason for them not to be able to get the toe right.

saxman
26-06-2006, 06:26 PM
those rediculous toe settings are what would/will be causing tire issues, not your camber

a camber of -1.5 degrees isn't bad at all


I think instead of spending your money on a camber kit that's really not going to make a bit of difference, you should take your car to someone half way competent at doing an aligment

nugget666
26-06-2006, 06:31 PM
those rediculous toe settings are what would/will be causing tire issues, not your camber

a camber of -1.5 degrees isn't bad at all


I think instead of spending your money on a camber kit that's really not going to make a bit of difference, you should take your car to someone half way competent at doing an aligment


the most camber i have on my car is - 2.37 will that still affect me?

im considering going into the pedders tomorrow. showing them the slip bobjane gave me. and see what they say.

if toe is my problem. and i can get it fixed without geting new parts then that shall be good.

saxman
26-06-2006, 07:32 PM
I'd have 'em put the camber as close to stock as possible, but with proper toe settings, a camber around negative 2 really shouldn't have any major effects on tire wear.

Running a toe setting of +4 is going to eat those tires up incredibly fast

nugget666
26-06-2006, 07:37 PM
i dont have any camber adjustments.


do you know what the stock setting of a civic should be? or where i could find them.

SiReal
26-06-2006, 07:40 PM
hondas dont come with camber adjustments stock, as with mostly every other car on the road. BUT all cars do come with toe adjustment.

nugget666
26-06-2006, 07:43 PM
I have found this. http://www.whiteline.com.au/YourCar/kits/CK_Civic_EK_VTiR.pdf


it has a few settings i looked at down teh bottom of the page. lookign at that i m thinkign i should go somewhere else and see if they can align it better.

saxman
26-06-2006, 07:44 PM
don't know for an ek, for an eg it's 0 degrees +/- 1 degree up front , - 0 degrees 20' +/- 1 degree in the rear

nugget666
26-06-2006, 07:48 PM
Just a thought.

can adjusting the toe effect camber?

i just had a thoguth they might of adjusted the toe so much to try and even out the camber.


another question with this toe what is the rough maximum adjustments like say is it 10 + or - adjustment?

dsp26
26-06-2006, 09:20 PM
camber and toe talk aside, the price pedders quoted for camber adjusters is ridiculous. PEDDERS SUCK DONKEY DOODLE!!!

camber bolts only cost about $75 a pair and camber/castor plates (that go on strut tower) sell for about $400 a pair...

mrwillz
26-06-2006, 10:00 PM
uhh pedders is jus charging u jus to touch your car, those prices sounds like a load of junk so keep ur money and do some more research

well im a noob at all this but i no that dont go near pedders (friend wif a vt got quoted 800bux from them jus to lower his car) of course he didnt do it

if ur figuers are that 'bad' i wonder how myn are wif superlows

DomenEK
01-07-2006, 07:18 PM
The pedders prices are for the FULL REPLACEMENT UPPER CONTROL ARMS. The reason why they are so exxy is because they are a more complex piece of kit than say, a commodore set-up.

These arms allow for camber AND caster adjustment on the front (+7 to -7 degrees or something rediculous like that) and the same for the rear. Most camber kits around (eg Skunk2) don't allow for caster as well as camber on the front.

I know this because I was going through the exact same dillemma recently. I've decided that it probably won't be worth my while spending so much money when I'd need to go through maybe 3 sets of tyres before it starts to make economic sense. And I don't think I'll be hanging onto my ferry that long. That and I'll probably only take it to the track maybe once before I get rid of it.

It would make sense if you were tracking your car often, but for daily driving, it's more money spent than would really be worth it.

dsp26
02-07-2006, 10:15 AM
^^^aah fair enough didn't realise that.

but who here runs more than -2.5 camber... as thats the highest negative i've seen someone post in another thread?