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LUD02C
08-05-2004, 09:44 AM
Results Friday Practice!

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:15.935

2 35 Anthony Davidson BAR-Honda 1:16.188

3 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:16.360

4 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:16.433

5 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:16.534

6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.698

7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:16.729

8 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:16.734

9 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.798

10 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:16.833

11 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:16.925

12 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:17.067

13 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.069

14 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:17.178

15 39 Timo Glock Jordan-Ford 1:17.608

16 37 Bjorn Wirdheim Jaguar-Cosworth 1:17.676

17 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:17.906

18 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:17.970

19 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:18.001

20 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:18.117

21 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:18.726

22 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:19.149

23 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:20.313

24 40 Bas Leinders Minardi-Cosworth 1:22.189

25 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth

MKI4EVA
08-05-2004, 12:27 PM
sweeet.

LUD02C
09-05-2004, 01:12 PM
Qualifying Results

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:15.022

2 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:15.639

3 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.809

4 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:16.144

5 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.272

6 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:16.293

7 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:16.313

8 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:16.422

9 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:16.514

10 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.636

11 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:17.038

12 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:17.444

13 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.445

14 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:17.575

15 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:17.802

16 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:17.812

17 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:17.866

18 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:19.817

19 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:20.607

20 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:21.470


GO MICHAEL :D

McChook
09-05-2004, 06:24 PM
Hmm, another boring race coming up shortly

bigteethygrin
09-05-2004, 06:57 PM
hope hondas new engine shows the goods

VTEC16
09-05-2004, 07:04 PM
hope hondas new engine shows the goods

Its not a new engine.....its has a very mild upgrade - probably just a fix for sato's last blowup. I think canada should see the next major engine step.

Anyway....I think it will be a good race from the BAR perspective - maybe not exactly what we had hoped for...but its time to see Sato get a podium, and watch Jenson go throught the field to score some decent points.

Im looking forward to it!

LUD02C
10-05-2004, 10:48 AM
What a race!
It was good to see Trulli go hard and fast off the start.
Sato did extremley well to keep up with trulli and Michael in the first stint.

Jenson had a shocker which was good to see :D
Rubens had a different stragedy which nearly worked into his favour but he came close!
Good to see Fisichella get soe points.

But what is going on with the McLaren's :(
So disappointing!!!
I like to see Kimi fighting with Michael and Juan now it would be good if they can keep up with BAR or Renault.

Full credit goes to 2 people in this race SATO for his brilliant performance and Trulli for not crumbling under pressure with michael.

VTEC16
10-05-2004, 11:08 AM
What a race!

That was the most boring race i have seen to date.

BAR need to work on their excruciatingly slow pit-stops. Takuma isnt great. Thats all i really got out of that race.

Im getting tired of seeing shumacher winning every race. In my opinion it is very bad for the sport.

Ohh...and it wasnt JB's fault in qualifying....had a video but cant find the link....will post later...

LUD02C
10-05-2004, 11:16 AM
Come on, most boring?
There was some action, just because your hero Jenson wasn't anywhere near the top doesn't mean it was boring!
Give credit to renault and Fisichella.

Bored of seeing Michael win?
How could you be bored of that, greatest thing ever :D

I love being a Schuacher fan! 8)

Javed
10-05-2004, 11:24 AM
Bah! Schumacher is a tosspot :D Anyways its getting sad to see, and I extremely hate seeing it, but the best driver is winning at the end of the day. Anyways What the hell happened to Montoya, I went to the toilet and came back and all of a sudden he was out of the race! NOOOOOO JPM!!!!!! JPM and williams are having a shit season, and this isnt good! I think it is time i started supporting Alonso or something, he is a gun!

LUD02C
10-05-2004, 12:54 PM
Javed, main question is...

What is Juan thinking now about going to mcLaren?
They are having a shocker!
Can't wait for there new car :D
Hope it puts Kimi up the top

bigteethygrin
10-05-2004, 03:13 PM
Yeah I bet Juan is really looking forward to the move to mclaren at the moment. Though that may change when their new car debuts mid season.

The renault starts are something phenominal.. they have done it every race and is a huge advantage in my opinion as the other teams inc ferrari seem dumbfounded as to how they are doing it. Now if they could just sort their understeer problem. I heard they ran their 03 front wing this race to try to sort it out..

As for Rubens strategy well.. hmm.. I wonder how the strategy included slowing down when Michael had to slow down with the exhaust issue. There was a little question mark about the fact that Ferrari brought out the wrong tyres for him at his last pitstop as apparently the systems for tyre selection is supposed to make that sort of mistake never happen.

As for Shuey being such a great driver I'd be interested to see JPM's laptimes in a ferrari. Not to say he isnt good, but the car is certainly overshining his efforts IMO.

Dylan
10-05-2004, 04:20 PM
i dont think juan will be having any doubts about his decision at all.

Mclaren have been championship contenders for a good 7 years now and just having one bad year is not going to change the fact that they are one of the top 3 most succesful teams in F1, they are backed by one of the biggest car manufactuers in the world (Diamler Chrysler) and they have, although this can be disputed, the best aerodynamicist in the business (adrian newy)

I would much rather be stuck in a team who is full of determination to get back to the front of the grid, and will be focusing 100% with a team that can do it, rather than a very consistent, but totally uninspiring williams team that has been in this same situation for about 4 years now. lots of potential, but never actually shows anything worth much.

plus, Mclaren, although not TOTALLY responsible for their lack of pace this season, have been distracted through the design stage of the MP4-19 by the all new Mclaren Mercedes SLR supercar, and also their massive investment in the new Paragon Motorsports Facility.

But, although the Paragon was a distraction through this years car, next years car which i think i recall will be the first car totally designed in it should be a blinder.

Mclaren now have the best most high tech home base of all the F1 teams, and it SHOULD rub off into a really really fast car if used correctly.

Watch the Silver Arrows. ;)

Choongas
10-05-2004, 10:47 PM
Trulli went bonkas at the start!
Was an alright race but I want the Hondas to win :)

http://www.barf1.com/scripts/php/downloadLowImage.php?f=889_1024x768

A nissan at the F1?! heh

McChook
10-05-2004, 10:52 PM
Trulli went bonkas at the start!
Was an alright race but I want the Hondas to win :)

http://www.barf1.com/scripts/php/downloadLowImage.php?f=889_1024x768

A nissan at the F1?! heh

Renault owns nissan anyway - including the trucks and commercails division

LUD02C
11-05-2004, 08:25 AM
Why when i tell people that Fiat own Ferrari they don't believe me?

bigteethygrin
11-05-2004, 11:36 AM
arent ferrari owned by a comapny called scuderia??

pornstar
11-05-2004, 12:31 PM
as if nissan will go to F1! they cant even build a fast na street car.

LUD02C
11-05-2004, 02:12 PM
as if nissan will go to F1! they cant even build a fast na street car.

I would love to see what Nissan lovers say! :D

Dylan
11-05-2004, 05:51 PM
arent ferrari owned by a comapny called scuderia??

no scuderia is italian for team

therefore, in english, scuderia ferrari is 'team ferrari'

make more sense? hehe

and by the way, road cars are alot different to formula one cars. just becuase one of their attempts failed dosent mean they cant.

if renault owns nissan, then its safe to say that the nissan F1 car would be the same as the renault one.

so, which one out of honda and renault are ahead in the constructors chanpionship? its not honda!

so, at the moment, NISSAN have a more succesful chance at F1 than Honda does.

yes... im awaiting the flames :shock:

McChook
11-05-2004, 06:10 PM
Why when i tell people that Fiat own Ferrari they don't believe me?
The French car manufactures own alot :D

Fiat is Italian....

McChook
11-05-2004, 06:13 PM
[if renault owns nissan, then its safe to say that the nissan F1 car would be the same as the renault one.

so, which one out of honda and renault are ahead in the constructors chanpionship? its not honda!

so, at the moment, NISSAN have a more succesful chance at F1 than Honda does.

yes... im awaiting the flames :shock:

Nissan also had LeMans Cars -the R390, and it wasn;t so unsucessful.... VH45DETT - not NA, but a piece of precision equipment

Just because a company does not make NA engine with lots of power, doesn;t mean they can't build an F1 engine

I have never seen honda build a V10 production engine... or a High output turbo engine - but alas, early/mid 80s they had 1.5litre turbo honda F1s, and nowadays have NA V10s....

Dylan
11-05-2004, 06:31 PM
that was early 90s tho

LUD02C
11-05-2004, 07:10 PM
Why when i tell people that Fiat own Ferrari they don't believe me?
The French car manufactures own alot :D

Fiat is Italian....

Thanks for that Matt.
I can't believe what i wrote!
The stupid things we say :evil: