View Full Version : engine conversion legal?
2MPRSS
08-05-2004, 07:02 PM
i wana know if geting a b16a conversion into my eg is legal if not is there ways that i can get away with it without going through through sh*t by cops,rta,insurance?thanks
Setanta
08-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Engineers are your friend. It's legal if it comes with an engineer's certificate (you will also need to upgrade brakes, suspension and drivetrain).
2MPRSS
08-05-2004, 07:10 PM
doesnt that come with the half cut or watever u call it?the brakes etc
Mitch M
08-05-2004, 07:42 PM
basically if you get the brakes and all that sorted, there is only one other thing.
Omissions!!
its kind of hard to engineer, and apparently its a sh*t fight for a pay out if they see it doesn't meet omissions ...
If you buy a half/front cut (whatever you may call it) it should come with the brakes as well. And all you will need to do is an EFI conversion (if you have a GL or Breeze model) and also maybe upgrade the rear brakes if you have drums.
Then after the conversion, go get an engineers certificate for it and it will become legal :)
Setanta
09-05-2004, 12:36 AM
Mitch: "omissions" means to leave something out... I think you mean "emissions" :D:D:D
A'PEXi
09-05-2004, 01:00 AM
legal. i think it should be okay since its still 1.6... unless ur car was a 1.5 ? :P
make sure the engine being transplanted into the car is the same age or newer than the engine it came with.
-2ds
legal. i think it should be okay since its still 1.6... unless ur car was a 1.5 ? :P
All EGs in Aus came in 1.5L anyways?!?!?!
make sure the engine being transplanted into the car is the same age or newer than the engine it came with.
-2ds
Yes I totally forgot about this. the engine that you are swapping in must be of same year or newer. It cannot be an older engine.
Setanta
09-05-2004, 10:07 AM
mo: Si and VTi EGs were 1.6 as I recollect.
Legality is not just taken on capacity but power output increases as well. Basically the car's chassis, drivetrain and brakes/handling remain effective with the power upgrade. I'd forgotten the engine age caveat too - it's a good one to remember for those that think a 1st gen B16A is a good swap into an EG (which was powered by the 2nd gen B16A in Japan).
mo: Si and VTi EGs were 1.6 as I recollect.
Legality is not just taken on capacity but power output increases as well. Basically the car's chassis, drivetrain and brakes/handling remain effective with the power upgrade. I'd forgotten the engine age caveat too - it's a good one to remember for those that think a 1st gen B16A is a good swap into an EG (which was powered by the 2nd gen B16A in Japan).
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OMG LOL!!! Someone slap me across the face lol. I think I woke up too early.
Setanta
09-05-2004, 01:51 PM
hahahahaha - 9.49 is early for you???? :P:P:P
hey i just work up and it's 5pm, 9:49 is hell early for me
-2ds
Mitch M
09-05-2004, 05:21 PM
Mitch: "omissions" means to leave something out... I think you mean "emissions" :D:D:D
i swear it was a typo
"e" and "o" are right next to eachother on the key board I SWEAR ;) :lol:
carbine
09-05-2004, 05:35 PM
If a first gen motor is used instead of a second how could they possibly tell? couldn't you just lie?
McChook
09-05-2004, 05:37 PM
If a first gen motor is used instead of a second how could they possibly tell? couldn't you just lie?
engine number doesn;t lie
2MPRSS
09-05-2004, 06:21 PM
so if i wanted a b16a in my eg vti it wont be a big problem?all i need is the engineers certificate and its all sweet?
McChook
09-05-2004, 06:30 PM
so if i wanted a b16a in my eg vti it wont be a big problem?all i need is the engineers certificate and its all sweet?
As long as engine is newer or same age as car - apparently
Setanta
09-05-2004, 10:09 PM
If a first gen motor is used instead of a second how could they possibly tell? couldn't you just lie?
1st gen JDM B16 in the EF8/9 SiRs and the 'teg XSi is a B16A -it just has that stamped on the block.
1st gen Euro B16 (150bhp) in the EE8/9 VT (same 4th gen SiRs) has B16A1 stamped on the block.
EG SiRs had B16A2 stamped on the block as did the 3rd gen CRX.
EK4 SiRs had B16A3 (or so I'm led to believe - anyone want to confirm or deny with their Aussie VTiR?).
Easy to tell really.
**Ghost**
10-05-2004, 12:00 AM
Aussie EK4s have B162... just chekd
No such thing as B16A3 as far as I know :roll:
Setanta
10-05-2004, 07:35 AM
I thought I heard yank's discussing them - my bad :) I haven't had any experience with them - that's why I wanted to question it :) TY guys
Setanta
10-05-2004, 07:41 AM
Hmmm - I just did a google search on "B16A3", lots of links on the 'net stating that the B16A3 (OBD1) came out in the 93-94 USDM Del Sol.
Must just be a yank thing - I'll look ino the JDM side of it tonight.
pillow
10-05-2004, 10:25 AM
If a first gen motor is used instead of a second how could they possibly tell? couldn't you just lie?
1st gen JDM B16 in the EF8/9 SiRs and the 'teg XSi is a B16A -it just has that stamped on the block.
1st gen Euro B16 (150bhp) in the EE8/9 VT (same 4th gen SiRs) has B16A1 stamped on the block.
EG SiRs had B16A2 stamped on the block as did the 3rd gen CRX.
EK4 SiRs had B16A3 (or so I'm led to believe - anyone want to confirm or deny with their Aussie VTiR?).
Easy to tell really.
EG SiR's only had B16A stamped on the block
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