Oil change !

[bennjamin]

Ok - so it may be pretty dam self explanitory...but from recent and achived discussion...it seems some users seem to not even be able to change their underpants...let alone their cars oil !

Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!

Aim : To simply change you vehicles oil at the 5000km reccommended intervals ! Why pay $100 to change it when all it SHOULD cost is $25 for oil and a 30c washer ? Look on......

Required : 1 x container of preffered engine oil , 1 x new OEM honda "sump plug" washer , 1 x "sump nut sized wrench" and a small funnel.

Steps :
Let your engine idle for a few minutes to circulate the oil throughout....then turn it off.
First , make up a disposable oil-container - either a tray or cut out a old container- which can be re-used for future oil-changes !!!
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/1.JPG

Next , pop bonnet , and unscrew the oil cap ontop of the cam cover.
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/2.JPG

Now , lay under the front of the car , locate the sump , and locate the sump plug
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/3.JPG

Position yourself , and the oil catch container underneath the sump , and position your tool onto the bolt head
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/4.JPG

Contain a good grip, preferably one hand upon the bolt head/tool shaft , and one upon the end of your tool - and slowly but firmly release the bolt.
After a few good turns , the bolt will begin to loosley sit - Take your tool away , and hand loosen - preparign for a mass of yucky oil ! *Wear gloves people ! Used oil can give u skin cancer!*
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/5.JPG

Let the oil drain until one or two drops every minute or so - then take sump plug and replace the washer with a new OEM honda item
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/6.JPG
Place plug with new washer back into hole , and hand tighten (with tool ofcourse)to a firm torque. Do not over tighten, as it may pre-stress the washer.
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/7.JPG

Next , get back up of yo ass - and place a funnel into the fill hole -
fill with your reccommended amount of engine oil - about 3 litres or so. . .
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/9.JPG

Screw the lid back on , dispose of used oil properly , and turn on car.
Let it idle for a minute or so - then turn off.
Check around sump for any signs of leaks , and check oil level upon dipstick and add/take away oil if needed.
http://tech.ozhonda.com/diy/OILchange/11.JPG

And done !

Remember , every 5000kms you should change your oil - and every 10,000kms change both your oil and oil filter ! Easy !

[McChook]

Great guide that.

Nice rubber gloves... LOL
Clever idea with the expired oil container too....

Would be a good idea to JACK UP THE CAR - especially for the horizontally challenged and the first timers so they can see everything they need to see.....

[bennjamin]

*Wear gloves people ! Used oil can give u skin cancer!*

My white ass complexion needs all the help it can get in this harsh ozzy sun :)

[Redteg]

Great DIY Hank!

Good idea with the used oil container. I have a tray but its now too tall to use under the car without jacking it up.

Also, with the gloves, I wear thin cotton ones, and then rubber ones over them, stops sweat inside the glove but keeps oil and stuff off my dentist-quality hands.

[bigteethygrin]

everything can give you cancer these days

[OLM-02R]

i change both oil and oil filter and brake fluid every 5000kms and only cost $100buks...coz i'm using mobil gold oil... :D :D so might as well let the mechanic do it....coz its cheaper :D ...just for the mobil gold oil cost around $90 already...

[OLM-02R]

ben would u change my oil for $25 using mobil gold oil ?? :P :P :P nice DIY n e ways...

[wynode]

Good work BReN!

[Nuttz]

i cant get under my car without jacking it up...
also a question:
what happens if i use the old washer??? (actually ive already done it :) )

[luzinit]

hey! howcome u need to change the washer??
nice diy benn!

[wynode]

You don't HAVE to change it every oil change. I've used my old washer a few times. Main thing is to look out for the thread on the sump plug wearing out.

[EG5]

ben would u change my oil for $25 using mobil gold oil ?? :P :P :P nice DIY n e ways...

very funny ;)
mobil gold is $86 retail.
u got $4 rip off by charlie.

[Rufes1]

no point changing the oil if your not going to do the filter. Washer only needs to be replaced if its dagamged. Sump plug should be fairly tight. bit of a push the 3 bangs or so with your fist. Also with cars pre 120,000 you should use an engine flush, helps prevent contamination from the old oil (but if your using the old filter... :roll: ) Also removes deposits.

But if you have an older car with more k's dont use it as it will remove all the deposits and make your eninge "rattly" as such. You get the picture.

[joneblaze]

Nice writeup for noobs like me. Fantastic shots of pouring the oil in and final Scorpio pic. Who was your able cameraman? :roll:

;)

[bennjamin]

no point changing the oil if your not going to do the filter. Washer only needs to be replaced if its dagamged. Sump plug should be fairly tight. bit of a push the 3 bangs or so with your fist. Also with cars pre 120,000 you should use an engine flush, helps prevent contamination from the old oil (but if your using the old filter... :roll: ) Also removes deposits.

But if you have an older car with more k's dont use it as it will remove all the deposits and make your eninge "rattly" as such. You get the picture.

Is there a point telling the blokes ur gettin a root.....when all your going to is have a wank... ? :roll:


The amount of "contanimation" is very marginal if not at all , oils today are either synthetic or very well produced and after 5,000ks (not 20,000ks like some people ive know lol )the oil should still be quite ok.
It is the same prinicple as changing your fuel filter every 10,000ks , but changing your fuel tank every 400 or so - you do use oil in your car Rufes and not chocolate milk ? :)

But all valid good points.

I personally use alittle bit thicker oil (castrol gtx3) to "fill the gaps" in my ZC dinosaur.....anything thinner or "better la!" just makes the whole thing ratty !

[wynode]

Another thing to note.

DO NOT flush your oil down the drain or just thow it out. Used oil has do be disposed of properly.

[[ slayer ]]

i just got my crx a month or so ago, so i am gonna change oil and stuff within the next week.

just wanna know where i dispose of the old oil? and where i get a new honda sup plug washer? cos i decided i would start working on my car rather than paying a dodgy mechanic

[toE]

call up your local council and ask dem...they should point you in the right direction concerning disposing of old oil.

[mo]

call up your local council and ask dem...they should point you in the right direction concerning disposing of old oil.

Just use it to water your neighbours flowers :D :shock:

[Javed]

Hi all. went and got some oil today, and the guy at supercheap helped me out. I have a 93 DC2 Gsi and it has around 140 k's on it. I decided i wanted a thicker oil due to the age of the engine, so i was looking for around 15W-40 or similar. Now Mobil 1 only came in 5w-40 i think it was, very thin anyways. So that lead me to a choice of pennzoil or valvoline (both synthetic oils). I decided on the pennzoil synthetic blend 15w-50 and it was $33 i think. Now my question to you guys is if this is suitable for my application? Also i went and bought a oil filter (valvoline one) which is a Z79A which i think i read in the ryco manual thye had there is the right type (can any1 confirm this?) Also the guy at supercheap was very very helpful and told me to pay $3 for a engine oil flush as it is necessary for each oil change, is he right?HE also stated it is extremely important especially if like what im doing im changing oils with different viscosities etc. Any help is greatly appreciated! :) Keep the good work up!

PS. I noticed after my last service my car is rather chattery (tappets were adjusted at the same service so its weird), but i think its just cause im noticing it more than i used to. Will a thicker oil make the engine a little less noisy?

Edit: I have been reading around and it seems 15w-50 would be too thick and heavy? Maybe a 10w-40 would be better? Who makes a good oil in this, I can return the pennzoil and pay more, it doesnt bother me, i just want a good oil!!!

[wynode]

Mobil 1 should be fine. Its thin when cold and thick when warm (which you need IMO).

[Javed]

Well I changed my oil today, used the pnnzoil as above. A few notes to mention, it seemed my car needed alot more than 3 litres ofo il for some reason ??? No leaks anywhere, but it probly got around 4 litres in it so im a tad curious? Also, a little bit of oil got splashed or spilt around the exhaust manifold there round the dipstick holder thing. When i came home after taking the car for a drive after the change (note the temperature is freezing!) i opened up the bonnet and found the engine to smell (im guessing like burnt oil :P) and a little bit of hot smoke rising around from the dipstick area. Would this just be the spilt oil burning? Or could this be more serious? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Dont wanna destroy my engine doing a damn oil change!!!

[bennjamin]

Prob just the oil burning off ur exhust manifold - nothing to worry about dood.
Another thing , If u topped up just alittle too much - the engine will burn off excess oil for you - resulting in a slightly smokey ride (from your exhaust ofcourse) for a couple of days. NOT your engine about to blow up lol.

[Javed]

Ok thanks man! That settled me alot :D Also want to thank you for the write up, no need to pay mechanics to do shit i could do myself!

[DCLXVI]

where can i buy the OEM honda "sump plug" washer, and what do i tell them if i wanna get one.

cheers

[incoming]

call up your local council and ask dem...they should point you in the right direction concerning disposing of old oil.

Just use it to water your neighbours flowers :D :shock:

hehe i tip it along the fence so the oil kills the grass...
then i dont have to whipper snipper it! LOL

[[ slayer ]]

im all set to service my car, just need to know if the sump plug washer is anything special or just a normal hardware washer??

and if it is special, where can i get it?

[Javed]

I got the washer from my hona dealer service/parts section, but to be honest its just a normal washer. Can probably reuse the old one too.

[[ slayer ]]

cool, thanks for that...

[bizee_1]

LOL…
No offence but this reads like German Porn…
That’s some funny shit when you read it…
I particularly like the bit where you’re preparing “for a mass of yucky” LOL
Can’t wait to read the filter change…

Unfortunately I guess it’s not as funny when “Your Tool” = a 17mm ring spanner
hehe so i'm not alone in reading it that way! [not that there is anything wrong with that]
Nice write up. (pics & all, top effort)
No mean to be a pain in the butt tho ;) , but what about those who would need to change the oil filter or is that coming in another 5,000kms ? :P

Ray

[Javed]

I did the filter, was an absolute pain in the ass to find (had to get a mate locate it for me. You have to have the right tool and get it from the top (belt type oil filter remover). IT is right below the throttle body in the middleish area and screws straight into the block. Team integra has an article on it, but cos they are yankees i think its in a diff place for em. All you do is drain the oil, unscrew the filter, get the new filter and run a bead of oil round its gasket, then screw it back in by HAND. Then just replace oil as usual.

[Rufes1]

Never overfill with oil, if u do drain it out. Can increase oil pressure and create leaks, break old seals etc. As I said before I would never bother changing my oil without changing the filter, they are dirt cheap and they really do conteminate the oil.

Also go for wynns engine flush, works creat again to remove contaminants. When changing the oil filter just crack it open and let it drain then remove cause depending how they are arranged do hold a fair mount of oil.

Make sure the o ring comes off when u take the old one off, other wise u will double up and the engine will piss all its oil out in about 5 mins. And ALWAYS only do the filter back up HAND TIGHT.

[twing]

what's the size of sump plug? Is tegy size and civic size same?

[bennjamin]

what's the size of sump plug? Is tegy size and civic size same?

its 17mm or 19mm....somtimes it can be a imperial size if the hole has been re-threaded.
Just use a decent adjustable spanner and take it off.

[mercury]

just a quick question:

Does the oil level in the dipstick have to be between the two holes?

Mine is just over 3 litres. Not 3.8 like many suggested and its already between the two holes in the dip stick. Shall i add more oil in?

thanks.

[destrukshn]

depending on motor.. most of the d series use 3.5L.

[aaronng]

just a quick question:

Does the oil level in the dipstick have to be between the two holes?

Mine is just over 3 litres. Not 3.8 like many suggested and its already between the two holes in the dip stick. Shall i add more oil in?

thanks.
If it is in between when the engine is cold, then it is fine. If you are worried, carry the spare oil in your boot.

[mercury]

thanx.

Btw the OIL FILTER WAS A BIATCH AND A 3/4!

when i took the old one out oil started spilling all over my clothes, my arm even my hair. Damn that was messy!

then to top it off i had trouble screwing the new one back in.

Is that normal? Oil spilling out when u take the oil filter out?

cheers

[spoondc2]

Any differences if the car has oil cooler installed?

[EuroDude]

thanx.

Btw the OIL FILTER WAS A BIATCH AND A 3/4!

when i took the old one out oil started spilling all over my clothes, my arm even my hair. Damn that was messy!

then to top it off i had trouble screwing the new one back in.

Is that normal? Oil spilling out when u take the oil filter out?

cheers

hehe yeah you should drain the oil before removing the filter, or at least remove some of the oil.

yeah they are a biatch to change sometimes. I couldnt get my filter off the first time I changed it, got a mech to do it. Ever since then ive screwed the new one on with only my fingers to minimize excess torque (tightness), so its easier to remove next time.

[EuroDude]

Any differences if the car has oil cooler installed?

They dont make much difference during normal street use, its really only useful on the race track when ur engine is revving hard.

[mercury]

hehe yeah you should drain the oil before removing the filter, or at least remove some of the oil.

yeah they are a biatch to change sometimes. I couldnt get my filter off the first time I changed it, got a mech to do it. Ever since then ive screwed the new one on with only my fingers to minimize excess torque (tightness), so its easier to remove next time.


i did drain the oil man.

But it was on the jacks. Maybe it didnt drain all of it while the front being tilted up.

hmm

also i noticed the first time i started it, bits of oil spurted out of the exhaust.

is this normal?

cheers

[spoondc2]

They dont make much difference during normal street use, its really only useful on the race track when ur engine is revving hard.

Oh sorry, i mean oil change if there is a oil cooler installed....
:p

[EuroDude]

i did drain the oil man.

But it was on the jacks. Maybe it didnt drain all of it while the front being tilted up.

hmm

also i noticed the first time i started it, bits of oil spurted out of the exhaust.

is this normal?

cheers

There will always be oil in the filter no matter what, but not a large amount. Not much u can do about it really except be ready for the spillage and place a container under the filter/sump area.


Oil came out of the exhaust? That doesnt sound right :o

[mercury]

yeh like bits of little spots hitting the garage door.

saw it happen in both my mates cars with big fart cans before also. Btw the civic also has a fart on on it :P

but yeh didnt really pay much attention as it seems to happen with big mufflers.

Dunno really... should i be worried?

cheers

[EuroDude]

Well it can be a sign of overfilling the oil. Did you check the dipstick oil level? If you overfill the oil, the oil can find its way into various parts of the engine its not supposed to be in, and come out of the exhaust.

Worn piston rings is another sign of oil exiting throught the exhaust.

[mercury]

nah the oil level is fine, its between the two holes in the dipstick.
The engine is probably just showing its age.

cheers

[aimre]

LOL, its not oil, its dirty water comong out the exhaust.

Our cars burn C8H10(Petorl) and O2(oxy) and produce H20 (water) and CO2(carbon dioxide) , also coz the burn isnt perfect u get some C (carbon) and CO (caron monoxide).

N e ways, this water usually leaves ur exhaust as steam, thus u never notice it. But, if you start ur cr cold, ur exhaust pipes are cold, and this steam condenses as water droplets in ur carbon covered piped, the rest of the gasses soon push out all this water, hence the black droplets on ur garage wall.

[aaronng]

^^ yeah. If your engine oil is getting out through the exhaust, it comes out as blue coloured smoke. Not black spray.

[mercury]

^ lol yeh it only happens when its cold.

ok so that explains it then.

cheers

[gxiang]

hey guys quick questions before i change the oil in my car. im checking my engine oil and its abit low, do i need to change the oil already in there or can i just re-fill ???

[aaronng]

hey guys quick questions before i change the oil in my car. im checking my engine oil and its abit low, do i need to change the oil already in there or can i just re-fill ???
When is your next scheduled service? I would top up so that the level is between the minimum and maximum holes. Remember that after topping up, you have to leave it for a while so that the oil goes back into the sump from the head so that you can get an accurate reading.

[chicken8]

what i like to do is after all the oil has been drained. i pour in 1/2liter of new oil and let that go thru b4 putting the sump plug back on. cause with most hondas with the exception of 5th gen ludes they take around 4liters of oil so u'll have a liter spare.

i find it'll just clean it out that little bit more

[chicken8]

how do u guys dispose of the old oil??

[EK4R]

so old oil mixed with new ones (same brand etc) is fine? i thought it might be dirty and not suitable to mix with the cleaner oil.

[wynode]

how do u guys dispose of the old oil??
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7643&highlight=oil+dump

EK4R, if you are topping up oil then its generally OK to mix a small quantity of new oil with the old oil.

But when you're changing your oil.......only use new oil

[Yasakani]

What oils would you guys recommend for an EM1?
Are they all the same? Because I went to look at the manual, and there were specifications of oils according to ambient temperatures etc.

I don't really want to spend too much, but don't want to skimp on quality as well.

cheers.

[EG30]

Valvoline 10w30, avail from supercheap auto for about $28-29.

or FEO from your honda dealer.

[Dy_]

penrite hpr 10? around 38$ at supercheap

[Muzz]

Tip: Remember to put the drain plug back in before you poor your nice fresh oil into the engine! I found out the hard way first time i did my oil change lol, cleaning large puddles of oil off the driveway, and having to score a ride to pick up even more oil when your low on cash is a true bummer.

[EK4R]

whats the proper way to check ur oil levels? let it sit for 5 minutes after its fully warm?

[Muzz]

Yeah good question. I do it when cold, but i got no idea hey.

[aaronng]

Either cold, or let the engine sit for about 3-5 minutes. It differs with engines. Certain brands are designed with narrow oil galleries and take longer for the oil to drain back down. Same for engines that use more viscous oils.

[aaronng]

penrite hpr 10? around 38$ at supercheap

Penrite HPR 10 is a 10w-50 oil, it's too thick for B/D/H/K and R series engines, which were specced for 10w-30 oil. Only the older F22a on the non-VTEC CD4 Accord which is specced for 10w-40 should take the 10w-50 HPR 10.

[EK4R]

Either cold, or let the engine sit for about 3-5 minutes. It differs with engines. Certain brands are designed with narrow oil galleries and take longer for the oil to drain back down. Same for engines that use more viscous oils.

arong what you mean let it sit?

as in check the oil wen the engine is cold (say early morning) ??

i read in my manual it says to check it once warmed up , let it cool down, say 5 min then check dipstick . :confused:

[Muzz]

Hes saying check it cold, or check it warm, but wait 3-5 mins after turning the engine off, for all the oil to drain back down to the sump.

When you start the car, the oil level in the sump will be lower as the oils being pumped throughout the engine. It needs to drain back to the sump for a while to get a true reading.:thumbsup:

[EK4R]

yea get ya all good

thx

[blahZ]

any brand 10w30 oil is good for b series?

[aaronng]

any brand 10w30 oil is good for b series?

Honda FEO :thumbsup:
Castrol Edge Sport 5w-30 :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Mobil 1 Gold 10w-30 :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[blahZ]

Honda FEO :thumbsup:
Castrol Edge Sport 5w-30 :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Mobil 1 Gold 10w-30 :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

do u mean the bottle with the gold lid?

[traumatized]

do u mean the bottle with the gold lid?

bottle and lid is gold.. quite pricey though...

[blahZ]

i only see the silver bottle with gold lid EXTENDEND PERFORMANCE or somthin

[traumatized]

i only see the silver bottle with gold lid EXTENDEND PERFORMANCE or somthin

where are u been shopping? i know autobarn, supercheap stock the gold bottle. try them if you are really after the mobil gold.

http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=170146189096 <-- link of picture of the bottle sorry couldn't easily find any other pictures. and sorry i know ebay links aren't allow but i'm not selling anything the item has ended also.

[Encor3]

i only see the silver bottle with gold lid EXTENDEND PERFORMANCE or somthin

some kmarts also have it aswell

[Dell99]

i realise this is a noob quetion but. Prior to draining the oil from the car. Should the car be cold or run a bit to warm up the oil.
Plus how long to cool after the warm run?

[aaronng]

i only see the silver bottle with gold lid EXTENDEND PERFORMANCE or somthin

Traumatized is right. The one you saw was the silver one and rated at 5w-50. The gold one is fully gold and rated at 10w-30. There is also the 0w-40 that is in that ebay link, but the one with the same viscosity as Honda's recommendation is 10w-30.

[aaronng]

i realise this is a noob quetion but. Prior to draining the oil from the car. Should the car be cold or run a bit to warm up the oil.
Plus how long to cool after the warm run?

You don't need to warm it up because when cold, almost all the oil is in the sump and will drain out. Honda's engine oil is also thin, so it will still flow out even when cold. If you warmed it up prior to draining, you would have old oil pumped up into the head and galleries, plus the oil would be hot and you risk scalding your hand.

[Dell99]

thxs man

[gbang007]

when i changed my oil a couple of months back, i drained the oil, but when i took off the oil filter, oil came out. like a cup full. this was done on stands so the front of the car was raised. how do u get the oil out so it doesnt go everywhere once you change the filter?

[aaronng]

when i changed my oil a couple of months back, i drained the oil, but when i took off the oil filter, oil came out. like a cup full. this was done on stands so the front of the car was raised. how do u get the oil out so it doesnt go everywhere once you change the filter?

With a cold engine, I take the plastic wrapper bag from a loaf of bread, and then press it against the block around the filter. Then I just remove the filter, taking care not to tear the plastic bag. Filter stays in the bag, and any drips as well. Then just wipe up any little spills.

[bennjamin]

With a cold engine, I take the plastic wrapper bag from a loaf of bread, and then press it against the block around the filter. Then I just remove the filter, taking care not to tear the plastic bag. Filter stays in the bag, and any drips as well. Then just wipe up any little spills.

really good idea....for those engines with the room to do this.
B's and D's are alitte tight around the filter area !

[destrukshn]

you can also puy a tray underneath it?
lol.
lol

[aaronng]

really good idea....for those engines with the room to do this.
B's and D's are alitte tight around the filter area !

I've done it with an old NB MX5 as well. You don't need space (space on the MX5 was just enough to put one hand in as deep as my wrist. Everything else was skillful wriggling fingerwork :). As long as you can get the bag around the filter, you're set. Once the filter is out, just make sure you keep your finger on the bag so you make a seal at the area beneath the filter mount.

[gbang007]

yeh but it came pouring out and went everywhere.

you can also puy a tray underneath it?
lol.
lol

[Muzz]

Yeh, even with a tray under my filter, oil still goes everywhere, its not a clear path between the filter and the ground for my d16y4, theres shit in the way which cops the oil.
Nothing a rag and quick spray of degreeser wont fix though.

[JasonGilholme]

Nothing a rag and quick spray of degreeser wont fix though.

x2 :thumbsup:

Or an oil filter relocation kit :cool:

[gbang007]

haha same thing happens to me. but its a b*tch to clean up, particularly on concrete.

Yeh, even with a tray under my filter, oil still goes everywhere, its not a clear path between the filter and the ground for my d16y4, theres shit in the way which cops the oil.
Nothing a rag and quick spray of degreeser wont fix though.

[Rice_banger]

so mobil synth S semi synth will be fine for a D16Y4 ?

i just got the car so not sure what its been running so im thinking of going semi synth then fully synthetic after a few changes does that sound ok ?

and can i use cheap ryco filters

[aaronng]

so mobil synth S semi synth will be fine for a D16Y4 ?

i just got the car so not sure what its been running so im thinking of going semi synth then fully synthetic after a few changes does that sound ok ?

and can i use cheap ryco filters

What viscosity is the Mobil Synth S? If it is 0w-30, 5w-30, 10w-30, 0w-40, 5w-40, 10w-40, it will be fine. Ryco filters should be ok, but I'd rather stick to OEM.

[Rice_banger]

so guys im about to do mine and im changing the filter with it

was wondering what type of filter tool is best to use i tryed using one of the basic tools and it keeps slipping thru / not going tight enough to go around the tiny ass filter

[nugget1]

I'm usually able to get mine off by hand, they're not supposed to be too tight.

[Rice_banger]

sigh i did try hand no luck

[aaronng]

so guys im about to do mine and im changing the filter with it

was wondering what type of filter tool is best to use i tryed using one of the basic tools and it keeps slipping thru / not going tight enough to go around the tiny ass filter

Honda does sell a filter tool. Looks like a cap which goes over the end of the filter. Indispensable tool!

[Zilli]

i find that the tool with the canvas belt works best (as opposed to the all steel one), but if you can buy the Honda tool it may be better... when you change the filter, do it as tight as you can BY HAND, ensure you get some oil on the seal to help get it off next time, and check for leaks after you replace it.

[Munted]

I've got one of those oil filter removal tools that attaches to a socket wrench but it's a bit of a nuisance to use.

http://i30.tinypic.com/24n1amo.jpg

It looks a bit like that. More recently I've just used a jar opening cloth and found that much much easier, looks like one of these:

https://www.kitchenworksinc.com/intranet/img/item/7297.jpg

It's just a rubber cloth you use to unscrew jar lids but it's excellent for unscrewing oil filters too!

[nugget1]

That's excellent Munted, never knew such a thing existed. Can't wait to get a Mighty Gripper!

[Rice_banger]

ya sand paper trick works alrite ive heard

ok i bought a canvas belt tool today and tryed it but dont got a 1/2 inch breaker bar / wrench but i bought castrol edge 5-30 will that be alrite fully synthetic it says

[aaronng]

ya sand paper trick works alrite ive heard

ok i bought a canvas belt tool today and tryed it but dont got a 1/2 inch breaker bar / wrench but i bought castrol edge 5-30 will that be alrite fully synthetic it says

Edge 5w-30 will be alright. I've used it a few times. Although it says fully synthetic, it is a hydrocracked mineral oil. That is why it is cheaper than other synthetic oils. :)

[bennjamin]

just some words of advice....

with taking off a oil filter , its best to "CRACK" it from below with a proper oil filter tool. IE 3/4 prog grip or grip chain etc. anything else you risk slipping + scalding from oil or exhaust pipe lol.

Once the filter is slightly loose , jump up , place a drip tray underneath and process to access the oil filter from the TOP of the engine bay. Undo by hand , tip over and drain all excess oil from filter tool.
and either drop into the bay or slowly pull up. and dispose of

this saves the gush of oil on your arm/hand/face.

[[RSX 03]]

I'm feeling proud, changed the oil myself today. LOL

[Rice_banger]

just did oil change + plugs , next up power steering fluid + coolant and gear box sigh

so was wondering the current sump plug is stripped , would anyone know roughly how much a new one would be ?

[dahon]

anyone here done an oil flush? like run through some new no frills/cheap oil and then idle for a min or two then empty and fill with clean feo?
does it make a difference? thinking of doing one on my next service.

[nugget1]

just did oil change + plugs , next up power steering fluid + coolant and gear box sigh

so was wondering the current sump plug is stripped , would anyone know roughly how much a new one would be ?

You can get magnetic ones on Ebay for $15. delivered, not sure what OEM ones cost.

[aaronng]

anyone here done an oil flush? like run through some new no frills/cheap oil and then idle for a min or two then empty and fill with clean feo?
does it make a difference? thinking of doing one on my next service.

As long as you have been servicing regularly (10000km/6 months maximum), then you don't need to flush the engine with cheap oil. Regular oil changes sort of act as an oil flush. Any particles of substantial size left inside will be caught by the oil filter. If you still want to do it, make sure you buy cheap 5w-30, 10w-30, 5w-40 or 10w-40. Although, I find that FEO is the cheapest. So you'd end up using 2 bottles of FEO for each oil change, which is a waste. You're better off changing engine oil every 3 months instead.

[Limbo]

if your gonna flush just once is good enough. SHould have to do it every time

[EG30]

for cheap oil flushing I use whatever is left over from prev oil changes and use it as a flushing oil. And if I don't have enough qty to do that or the leftover oil is too precious for that purpose I buy the Gulf Western 20w50 4L oil from supercheap auto for $9.95 and use that instead.

I only use flushing oil after a dose of solvent based flush additive eg Nulon engine flush to get rid of any left over flush additive trace as it's very aggressive and I won't want any hanging around the engine till the next oil drain. If the engine wasnt really dirty ie sludged up and could do with a bit of a clean I would use a good old fashion diesel oil such as Castrol RX super 15W40 and run that for say 2000-3000km or even till the next oil change at 5000km.

[dc21]

hey guys, i tried looking for the oil filter today, how far inside the bay is the oil filter? can it be accessed using just jack stands?
and how much of oil do i fill up for B18C2?

[EG30]

yes you can access it that way, it's right underneath your intake manifold.

with filter change in your engine it's 4L.

[dc21]

alright, will try it out tmrw. thanks :)

[4age8u]

my uncle work for castrol for about 20years now.and told me engine flush(like 20bx nulon etc..) is a gimmic it dosent really do anything like clean engine deposits and blah blah so according to him regualar change oil is the one you need to do

[aaronng]

my uncle work for castrol for about 20years now.and told me engine flush(like 20bx nulon etc..) is a gimmic it dosent really do anything like clean engine deposits and blah blah so according to him regualar change oil is the one you need to do

Totally agree. Frequent engine oil change will get the dirt out just as good or better. Doesn't harm the seals like engine flush.

[AutoNoob]

I bought 10 OEM washers today...to last the next 3-4 years of oil change :)
from Blacktown Honda for $2.20 each!!!! That's a bit effing expensive!!!. I thought i'll get them free.

[gbang007]

whats the point of the washer anyway? to stop small drips?

[AutoNoob]

who knows lol, everyone recommended it...so meh XD

[power_of_dreams]

how do I know when I have poured enough oil?

[mrwillz]

check your manual to see approx how much u need
and check your dipstick throughout when pouring new oil in

[Mooks79]

nice guide easy to understand thanks beny

[jusybabe]

thanks for this....=)

[destrukshn]

whats the point of the washer anyway? to stop small drips?

to create a proper seal, from surfaces that are imperfect
it is recommended to change it everything time, so it does create the proper seal, and oil doesn't leak.
cheap insurance i'd say

[fatboyz39]

There a crush washer. Once its crush once it should be thrown away and replaced with a new crush washer.

[ekay1]

If i have a new FD1, is it better to stick to the OEM honda engine oil or use something else?

[Bludger]

If i have a new FD1, is it better to stick to the OEM honda engine oil or use something else?search the forum. Its been answered too many times already.

I wish i had an auto so i could manually shift with it.

[greek_rambos2k]

Today i got

Castrol edge 5w-30 5l - $55
Genuine Oil filter inc drain washer - $22

my first oil change :D

[euromandeluxe]

Nice. Keep an eye out at supercheap, when sales are on you can get 5W30 Edge sport for like $45, sometimes even $40.

[Sir_vtec]

does anyone know the torque settings for the sump plug bolt?

[TbM]

does anyone know the torque settings for the sump plug bolt?
What engine? If you let me know ill check my manuals for your engine specs.
FYI
Most D16 series are about 39nm-44nm
Most B16 series and b18c series are about 44nm

[haitim01]

did my first at home oil change last night.

Royal Purple 5w-30 :-) VERY NICE!!!!!!

[waz94Accord]

Use engine oil can be recycled. Contact your local council about collection points.

Info from Australian Government:

Used motor oil is hazardous. [It floats on water and] can kill fish, frogs and other animals that breathe from the water's surface.

[But] Used motor oil can be recycled.

Oil doesn't wear out; it just gets dirty. Used oil can be cleaned, re-refined and used again [for example] as an industrial burner fuel, or re-refined back into new lubricating and hydraulic oil.

http://www.environment.gov.au/resource/why-we-should-recycle-used-motor-oil