Motor Change guide for EG * B / D / H / K SERIES !!!!

[[[d a n n y]]]

Hello Boys and girls and every1 else whos intrested in changne motors in an EG.
This is for all you Noobs who dont bother to search and keep on posting the Question...
"Man my EG is so slow i hear an engine conversion will give it more up and go, How much and were blah blah blah"
so to stop all these threads from poping out. i have made a thread based on my experience and the rescources found on the forums.
*any info you think is incorrect please correct me*

EG's come in both Carby and EFI form
Carby equipped cars are

EG3 (Breeze)
EG4 (GL/later model Breeze)
EFi equipped cars are
EG4 (Gli)
EG5 (Si/Vti)
EG8 (Gli)

Engines Available..

Okay. to be honest there is a heap of engines that can fit in a civic. starting from our 1.6L SOHC VTEC engines to the V8 Chev engines. All these are possible with the help of our friend money, ALot of it.
Anywayz we'll just focus on the most common coversions.

B16a Engine cnversion (DOHC VTEC )

So far the most common and popular engine conversion.
the B16a is found in many civics starting from the EF9,EF8,EG6,EG9,CRX DELSOL,EK4, etc
though since the australian RTA rules stats that putting an engine that is old than the chassis is illegal. (ie puting a 92 model B16a into a 94 model GLi is illegal)
Putting a B16a into a EG is pretty simple. half cuts can be bought for 3.5-4K
though the B16as are getting rarer and rarer and pricier due to the popular demand.
these are rated at around 125kw for a JDM spec and 116Kw for a AUS spec B16a2
Some of us maybe confused by the engne codes (ie B16a, B16a2, B16a3,4, etc. Do not be afraid it is stll a B16a it just tells u where the engne was intended for.
B16a (JDM only sold in japan)
B16a2 (AUDM and some Asian countries )
B16a3 (Asian and European markets etc)
B16a4 is for another non JDM market

here is a DIYarticle that i put together some time ago
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5953

B18c Engne coversion (SIR-G/VTIR/ Type R) DOHC VTEC

This engine conversion is also pretty popular.
B18c engnes can be found in DC2 integras. B18c is the SIR (JDM), VTIR(AUDM) or the GSR (USDM) motor. this engine is rated 125-130kw depending on the specs.

The B18cR the most hardcore out of the box Honda DOHC VTEC engine.
these motors are rated 141KW for the AUDM Spec and 145KW for the JDM Spec.

compared to te B16a's these motors are very torqey. the B18c SIR and the B16a might have the same peak power but. the B18c's extra torque gives the car a very fast point to point acceleration.

Heres a DIY artive done by ECU-MAN (GOD OF DIY :D)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312

B18c halfcuts can be picked up for around 4-5K for a JDM SIR-G cut and
7-8k for a B18cR cut depending on the specs 96, or 98 spec.

H22a Engine coversion Prelude SIR/VTIR/type S

This engine conversion i am not familar but.
these engines can be found in the Gen 4,5 prelues, Accord Type R's etc
H22as can be picked up pretty cheap compared to the B serise has they are not as popular.
H22a's are very very torquey. There are few cars on the forums with H22a's and the can run mid to high 13's easy.

A DIY ariticel Done by Honda B blastn
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5796&highlight=h22a

H22as are rated at arond 142KW. but custom mounts such as hasports etc are needed to fit in into a EG

General Questions Asked

Here are some of the General Questions that i have seen on the forums that have been asked so many times.

Q.Do i need to upgrade my brakes if i do a engine coversion ?
A.Yes you do for safety (stop better) and to get a engineers certificate

Q.How much would a work shop charge me for labour?
A.1.5-2K depending n the work shop rate

Q.Can i use my old ECU for the new engine
A.No you can not each ECU is designated for each engine

Q.Can i use my old gearbox for the new engine
A.Yes depending on the engine if you have a Bb16/B18c gearbox and want to match it to a another Bserise engine yes u can. other wise No

Q.Can i use my stock exhaust on my new engine.
A.Yes but only up till the cat. the headers will be different if u have a different seriser engine ( ie D serise header wont for a B serise engine)

If you have anymore questions plz feel free to ask me

[VTi_b0i]

good p0st danny :)

[EGB18CT]

very very good! hopefully it can be used appropriately and limit the amount of nobbish q's! well done! i reckon even better stickey it!

+rep point

[EGB16A]

nice

+ rep point for you

[heist]

forgot to add the Si sedan is actually a EH9....

[VTi_b0i]

mine says EH9 as well and its a VTi

[SiR JDM]

nice work danny

+ rep point & added to civic sticky! =]

[92DELSOL]

good info
BUT i think u got some power figures wrong.
jdm b16a isnt 125kw atw, and aus b16a isnt 116 kw atw.
maybe you meant horsepower?
or just 125kw (170hp) and 118kw(160hp). NOT atw.

[[[d a n n y]]]

good info
BUT i think u got some power figures wrong.
jdm b16a isnt 125kw atw, and aus b16a isnt 116 kw atw.
maybe you meant horsepower?
or just 125kw (170hp) and 118kw(160hp). NOT atw.

hoho shit
sorry was talking to my work mate whilst i was doing this and talking about my old GTR figures atw so yeah i must have just type it in

[DreadAngel]

Top shit Danny ^_^

Rep for you man!

[saxman]

as far as the whole b16a2/b16a3 argument... the designation isn't really where it's from, as much as when it's from...

here in the US, the b16a3 was the obd1 motor, with the a2 taking over with obd2... same in europe, etc

[EG5[KRT]]

alot of minor details to b fixed .. as everyone has said

but in my opinion top job mate !!! very appreciated!!

[ECU-MAN]

awsome thread dude

very well layed out, good work. lots of + rep points for you

[An41]

I believe EG4 gli is efi

[[[d a n n y]]]

yes
b4 the GLi was released they were GL's

[my_honda]

Here's one....

What do you do after you do the engine conversion? Engineers certificate, bule slip, how to rego?
It's a nob q's but what's the last step to make the car legal? And in each state please.

PS. good job man.

[[[d a n n y]]]

cant be bothered to write all that.
but i did say if u want your car enginered..
u need the brakes and everything up to date

[Nuttz]

have u got any info on obd1 and obd2 issues??

[[[d a n n y]]]

OBD1/OBD2 issues can be simply fixed by a conversion harness
if u want to put in a B18cR into a EG GLi or Si. using the same harness
all u need to do is add the conversion harness and 3 wires on the strut tower

[Vivski]

Well done Danny, good stuff.

How about non-standard heads on the standard block? It comes up every now and again, but not so common for EGs if my memory serves me well.

[AsH_]

watta bout a K20A change???

[timster1200]

In all of you guys opinions on a budget of say 8K what would be the best option for power in an EG.

I am in the process of purchasing an EG5 for which a B16B is being dropped in staright away, i rate the conversion.... But what would you guys do?

[[[d a n n y]]]

B16B would be a good engine IMO go alittle extra and for the JDM B18cR

[Dvl8sh]

eat a Dikk danny

[[[d a n n y]]]

looks like u got some issues there Dvl8sh..
did your mum rape u too much when u were young?
got any questions ill ansswer them for ya

[b18c_crx]

hey what about k20 into eg civic?

[jeffske]

good work danny, and I must say that guy has issues.
if you haven't got anything good to say, then STFU. At least give credit where its due

[[[d a n n y]]]

hey what about k20 into eg civic?

K20 ill research more on that.. doing a K20 conversion is on my agenda but still. need more resrach once i've done all that i wil post up again

[brownes]

yup...........

[creativepunka]

Just a few questions i couldnt find Clear answers too with the search function.
Droping a D16y4 into a EG GL manuall will be a straight bolt in wont it. Any problems using the standard eg box with it? Also what twin cam D series will fit in with out too many problems? I heard that the integra d16 has the mounts in the wrong spots?? cheers josh

[[[d a n n y]]]

Gearbox aint the same through all EG D serise boes..
B serise and D serise Mounts are in the same position but just different bolt holes on them

[bboy_gadget]

Hey man I love your stuff Danny, I am coming back in2 the car game after recently buying a honda 600RR and not looking back, picked up a really cheap body kit and wanna finish my EG by putting a B18C in, I live in QLD, do you know any cool places here that do Honda engine conversions that are not hard out on the fees? You said around 1.5-2K, they peeps I've been ringing are saying they will charge me like 3-4K. Can you help me out? (Yes a noob question....)

[destrukshn]

PM barefootbonzai for conversions in qld.

[barefootbonzai]

dam straight you have pm.

[[[d a n n y]]]

Hey man I love your stuff Danny, I am coming back in2 the car game after recently buying a honda 600RR and not looking back, picked up a really cheap body kit and wanna finish my EG by putting a B18C in, I live in QLD, do you know any cool places here that do Honda engine conversions that are not hard out on the fees? You said around 1.5-2K, they peeps I've been ringing are saying they will charge me like 3-4K. Can you help me out? (Yes a noob question....)

he's the man barefooty!!!!

[dexturd]

guys i was just wondering does the b18c a twin cam? and also i was planning to have a LSD short shifter, would it be compatible with the b18c?

[[[d a n n y]]]

B18c is a Twin cam VTEC motor.
if u want LSD get the ITR or CTR gearbox it will give u shorter ration and LSD
and yes it is compatible with the B18c

[dexturd]

thanx for that...btw i just registered so sory if i ask alot of questions in future =] :thumbsup:

[[[d a n n y]]]

no worries..

[dexturd]

whic gearbox would be better off getting though, as in performance wise? and whats the diffrence between the two?

[[[d a n n y]]]

ITR and CTR are very similar both have LSD
though the ITR has slightly shorter gear ratio as the finakl drive is 4.7 compared to the CTR 4.4
this means ITR gearbox will give u better acceleration but on highway driving you'll be doing 4K rpm at 110km/h

[dexturd]

btw i live in melbourne, do you know any places where i can get a cheap
b18c engine? and how much in total would it be to get the b18c,with the lsd short shift, blue prints and labour? you reckon $10k would be enough for everything?

[dexturd]

also for a engine upgrade like that on my car, i will need to change my break system right? coz for now i only have disc breaks at the front and drums at the back...

[[[d a n n y]]]

brakes are adviseable
b18c with blue print u mean? whole rebuilt?
that will not come cheap
converting your whole car will cost about 10K
then rebuilt to sumthing decent is another 5K
what i advise is spend 10K on it to get it running with new brakes and engine etc
and when the engine shows abit of age via smokes coming out and bearing noises over haul the engine then.

[ThEbLaCk]

so how much power atw for b16a and b16a2 please confirm?

does 88 crx sir uses b16a?

[dexturd]

does any body know where i can get a cheap set of brand new angel eyes style headlights that are compatible with a civic hatch 95 model? preferably in melbourne, if not, somewhere in australia where they do shipping.

thanx

[[[d a n n y]]]

so how much power atw for b16a and b16a2 please confirm?

does 88 crx sir uses b16a?

yes the 88 crx SIR uses B16a but it's the cable clutch version rated at 160 hp only

the 2nd gen, B16a has 170hp they should pull out anywhere between 85-90 kw atw

[[[d a n n y]]]

does any body know where i can get a cheap set of brand new angel eyes style headlights that are compatible with a civic hatch 95 model? preferably in melbourne, if not, somewhere in australia where they do shipping.

thanx

um..angle lights i dont know i personally have never used them.
try ebay or traders on ozhonda

[Leprechaun]

isnt this the worng thread for that sorta qz?

[ludetec]

what about the k20?

i have seen it in an eg, n i kno they not cheap...but is it an easy or doable conversion?

[[[d a n n y]]]

what about the k20?

i have seen it in an eg, n i kno they not cheap...but is it an easy or doable conversion?

anythings doable.
im going to do a K serise conversion end of this year so ill keep u posted
in the mean time u can try pming Yonas from JDMYARD

[EG5]

what about the k20?

i have seen it in an eg, n i kno they not cheap...but is it an easy or doable conversion?

Its not as hard as you think
Bolt on engine mount kits available
Conversion harness available

PM me if you wanna talk about it

[Parrott]

Hey guys, had a bit of a search around with no luck, im looking at doing a carby - efi engine swap in a eg gl, im aware it can be done but yet to find a decent diy or guide, if any one could help us with a link or anything that would be great :thumbsup:

[[[d a n n y]]]

pm me if u need a guide through to change it to EFI

[AsH_]

how much are K20 conversions ???

ball park figure for a EG ???

parts...

labour...

[qstoria]

how much are K20 conversions ???

ball park figure for a EG ???

parts...

labour...

ball park = enough change from 15 grand to buy some tic tacs :p

[[[d a n n y]]]

ball park = enough change from 15 grand to buy some tic tacs :p

sound about right..
AUDM K20 hafl cut around 6-7K
then u got the JDM's around 10K or under
then u got all the other stuff like harness mounts all the little bits and pieces about 15K i recon should do

[dAzLr]

how much do b18c type r front cuts go for ? an wat does ITR stand for cheers

[[[d a n n y]]]

ITR = Integra Type R
b18cR =ITR looking around 5-6K
theres a few for sale in the for sale section.

[Lukezen27]

Hey [[d a n n y]]

I'm getting a B18C2 swap into my EG5 and I have few questions..

1. Can I keep my close to brand new heavy duty clutch and lightweight Fly wheel, Its rated to 250kw?
2. As my EG already has all round disk brakes, can I get away with not doing the brake upgrade?
3. Will the bonnet close like stock as I hate how some EG’s have the front of the bonnet raised on swaps?


Thanks bro

LukeZen

[[[d a n n y]]]

LukeZen
B18c2 is a good swop
u cant use your clutch and flywheel cuz D serise stuff doesnt fot with B serise engine.
you can keep your brakes though it'll be a good idea to swop as the Vti brakes where designed for the Vti engine and wont stop as well with the extra 20-30 kw you will be getting.
As for the bonnet i had no troubles in my swops so i dont see why you would have any problems

[fatboyz39]

yeap danny sum it up nicely. Brakes won't needed to be upgraded. Bonnet will close as like a stock one would.

Can't use D clutch or flywheel.

[spoondc2]

];779508']




B16a Engine cnversion (DOHC VTEC )

though since the australian RTA rules stats that putting an engine that is old than the chassis is illegal. (ie puting a 92 model B16a into a 94 model GLi is illegal)



Just wondering, so it's illegal to put B16 from ek4,9 or k20 or k24?
How do i register the car then?

[[[d a n n y]]]

Just wondering, so it's illegal to put B16 from ek4,9 or k20 or k24?
How do i register the car then?

no it is illegal if the engine is older than the car..
the engine must be newer than the car.
so u cant put a 1990 made b16a into a 1992 made EG civic

[Leprechaun]

];1328637']no it is illegal if the engine is older than the car..
the engine must be newer than the car.
so u cant put a 1990 made b16a into a 1992 made EG civic

Can you get it engineered for this or??

[spoondc2]

];1328637']no it is illegal if the engine is older than the car..
the engine must be newer than the car.
so u cant put a 1990 made b16a into a 1992 made EG civic

Oh i can't read damn it :P, I got it now... That's what i used to think and i just misunderstand the sentence.

[[[d a n n y]]]

-snip-

this thread is not for selling shit..

[[[d a n n y]]]

Can you get it engineered for this or??

nope sorry u cant it's illegal

[steve88]

if i drop a b16 in my EK1 (lets say its from a EK4 so we got no legislation problems).

will my comprehensive insurance go up?
whats the requirements for registration aside from engineering the engien

[bennjamin]

quote to the insurance company that it is a replacement engine for its capacity , i dont believe it will warrant an insurance hike.
All you need to do is make sure the engine is same age or newer than your chassis , and just take the car to a registered mechanic that can write up a blueslip for "adjustment of records".
He will send the new engine number into the RTA and you are all good.

[steve88]

and i have to do the re-engineering before taking it to the mechanic?

[Lukezen27]

and i have to do the re-engineering before taking it to the mechanic?

Not unless its more than 15% in power to your other motor :thumbsup:

[bennjamin]

Not unless its more than 15% in power to your other motor :thumbsup:

wrong , its 15% displacement :)

So , a 1.6 CAN put a 1.8 in their engine bay with no altercation to brakes etc.

[Lukezen27]

wrong , its 15% displacement :)

So , a 1.6 CAN put a 1.8 in their engine bay with no altercation to brakes etc.

Nope its both now

I just got all that info before when i was about to get a B18C7 swap

Not 100% sure but quite sure

[steve88]

so a D16 non vtec - b16 dohc vtec greater than 15% ?

also, for anyone who's gone from D series to B, do you guys notice much of a difference?

[bennjamin]

Nope its both now

I just got all that info before when i was about to get a B18C7 swap

Not 100% sure but quite sure

Please try and find the exact info ~ the rules , as of the last time i got my car blue slipped ( about 4 months ago) were that -

The engine would be within +15% displacement.
It would come from similar or based chassis (IE DC engine into a EG etc)

These are the basic set , to legally install a new engine into your ride without major engineering.

[Lukezen27]

Please try and find the exact info ~ the rules , as of the last time i got my car blue slipped ( about 4 months ago) were that -

The engine would be within +15% displacement.
It would come from similar or based chassis (IE DC engine into a EG etc)

These are the basic set , to legally install a new engine into your ride without major engineering.

Sorry Ben I can't find it, only the displacement

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi06.pdf

I'll see if I can find it in my e-mail at home

[mocchi]

how about i6? has anyone ever done an i6 on an eg?
lets say a 2jzge or a rb30de? but i dont think it would be as awesome as the civette from ht.. drift it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmP3au8UoXc)

[[[d a n n y]]]

it;s 15% cap increase luke im pretty sure.

[DreadAngel]

how about i6? has anyone ever done an i6 on an eg?
lets say a 2jzge or a rb30de? but i dont think it would be as awesome as the civette from ht.. drift it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmP3au8UoXc)

They've put V8s in EGs in the front and in the back so anything goes...

[Lukezen27]

];1394744']it;s 15% cap increase luke im pretty sure.

Hey Danny

Yeah you guys might be right.

May have been the insurance company I was thinking of going with that asked for both.. I can't find the info I was thinking of..

[steve88]

anyone tried too see if their premium/excess goes up (under 25) if you engine swap under same/different displacement?

[guneg4]

Just wondering If anyone can help me as I have put a b16 into my eg4, but now the wipers do not return to the home postion when I turn them off, my intermediant wipers do not work neither does the horn, the interior light only works from the pasenger door so does the warning beeper for the lights.
I changed the complete wiring loom from the left head light, to computor, the dash loom both of them and the loom that goes from the right head light back to the under dash.
I might be missing a relay or two as new your right foot under the dash I have three pugs not used one is a three pin plug, one is a two pin plug and one is a ten pin plug.
Thanks in advance
Ant.

[DreadAngel]

anyone tried too see if their premium/excess goes up (under 25) if you engine swap under same/different displacement?

Yeah, it does Steve when I checked with NRMA, it increased it.

[steve88]

by how much? are you nominated driver and its registered too your parents

[DreadAngel]

excess didn't go up much but the premium went up pretty scary... I did a comparison for both myself as the driver/owner and as my parents being the driver/owner, it didn't go up as bad as I thought it would with my parents, but the figure for myself is scary, I try and dig up the quote but I think I've lost it now... This was for a CRX ED9 gone B16A.

[steve88]

good thing is that car is in my parents name, me being nominated driver so i shouldn't get smacked too hard. i kinda figured they'd not realise B16 is performance engine :(

[[[d a n n y]]]

Just wondering If anyone can help me as I have put a b16 into my eg4, but now the wipers do not return to the home postion when I turn them off, my intermediant wipers do not work neither does the horn, the interior light only works from the pasenger door so does the warning beeper for the lights.
I changed the complete wiring loom from the left head light, to computor, the dash loom both of them and the loom that goes from the right head light back to the under dash.
I might be missing a relay or two as new your right foot under the dash I have three pugs not used one is a three pin plug, one is a two pin plug and one is a ten pin plug.
Thanks in advance
Ant.

who did the wring for u.
make sure u properly wired the wiper wires..
they have destinctive colours on em

[[[d a n n y]]]

good thing is that car is in my parents name, me being nominated driver so i shouldn't get smacked too hard. i kinda figured they'd not realise B16 is performance engine :(

ages ago i payd 1.3K for my 1.3L breeze
and when i upgraded the engine i ended up paying 1.6K (b16a)
and my last EG i payed 700 bucks for the insurance.
for the 1.3L but i never told em about the new engine (b20b)

[steve88]

yeh but if u crash with that b20b they would of dicked u

[[[d a n n y]]]

yeh but if u crash with that b20b they would of dicked u

that's up to u to decide i took it that way.
anywayz i think your question has been answered..

[Q_ball]

^Yepz, lets keep this thread relating to the actual conversions...
Start a new thread for insurance Qs.

[winderic]

Hi
I have a 92 Civic Sedan,i dont have EFI,from the vin it show is an EG8.
Think mine is GL? or GLI?
Sorry, i dont hav owner manual so dont knw what model is my car.
Thanks

[Lukezen27]

Hi
I have a 92 Civic Sedan,i dont have EFI,from the vin it show is an EG8.
Think mine is GL? or GLI?
Sorry, i dont hav owner manual so dont knw what model is my car.
Thanks

GL as I would stand for injection hey...
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2

Enjoy

[winderic]

Thanks
Was thinking of getting a B18 but not sure which one to get,as people mention about B18C or B18C2...etc. Any suggestion for Civic Sedan GL?
Or B16? So some search already, but everyone got differ support on it, and i dont really have idea about it,sorry, i'm a noob.
Thanks

[Lukezen27]

Thanks
Was thinking of getting a B18 but not sure which one to get,as people mention about B18C or B18C2...etc. Any suggestion for Civic Sedan GL?
Or B16? So some search already, but everyone got differ support on it, and i dont really have idea about it,sorry, i'm a noob.
Thanks

Would be far more cost affective to just buy a Civic with the upgraded motor already in it.. and you will have to convert to EFI and well and that will add even more to the total swap cost.



There's also someone selling one on here from week to week lol


Luke

[[[d a n n y]]]

B serise motors are getting rarer and rarer now..

[j4J]

I didnt read anything in the original post about the 93 VEi model (now i do, opened my eyes)........lol they are rare and a dying bread but still around some places........

Anyway, to my question..........

Is it feasible to do an engine upgrade on a VEi? Or is it much better to sell and purchase a model more fit for a bigger engine?

[DreadAngel]

It don't matter what EG series it is...

Just that a few things to consider like converting to EFi, what motor you want to drop in. Something to note though later on if you do choose to sell, Sedan's with B/K series don't go for much at all compared to the Hatch.

[j4J]

i have a EG8 VEi............lol i didnt even know it was EG8 till i did my service today, previously thought it was a EG4 :o

lol learn something new everyday

[aimre]

good thing is that car is in my parents name, me being nominated driver so i shouldn't get smacked too hard. i kinda figured they'd not realise B16 is performance engine :(

LOL, its not a performance engine.

[shebangs]

Does anyone have a picture of an EG with a Carby Engine and EFI Engine? Engine Bay. I'm looking around so obviously doing a swap I want to make sure I'm getting EFI.

Thanks

[bennjamin]

if it has a inlet manifold ( long silver metal thing at the back of the engine) the its EFI.
If it has ALOT of rubber hoses all over teh top and rear of the engine , then its carbied.

[shebangs]

if it has a inlet manifold ( long silver metal thing at the back of the engine) the its EFI.
If it has ALOT of rubber hoses all over teh top and rear of the engine , then its carbied.

Thanks!! Well, in that case my car is EFI 1.5L EG4. According to the plate near the Radiator.

The reason I asked is because in the first post it says EFI is only EG5 or EG8.

[hondaciv]

just wanted no if b16b gearbox fit in a b16a thanks

[[[d a n n y]]]

b16b gearbox will fit a b16a
just remember Bserise G box will fit any B serise engine

[[[d a n n y]]]

Thanks!! Well, in that case my car is EFI 1.5L EG4. According to the plate near the Radiator.

The reason I asked is because in the first post it says EFI is only EG5 or EG8.

EG4 is a GLi as well and also a GL for the carby version

[shebangs]

];1485863']EG4 is a GLi as well and also a GL for the carby version

Yep, I thought so. I just wanted to confirm for everyone, as the original post said EG4 was only GL. Please update the first post :thumbsup:

[mealzy]

hi sorry to ask a stupid question, but im a noob,
so i can put a b18c gearbox on a b18a?
do any of the b-series gearboxs come with lsds?
thx

[[[d a n n y]]]

the CTR and ITR gearboxes come with LSD and some fo the B16a gearbox have LSD

[sam.]

i have a twin carby motor in my eg, do i have to change fuel lines and install a fuel pump if i do a conversion?

[ECU-MAN]

yes and yes

[AzN_Allstar]

thxz very useful

[rpm boy]

HI sorry if this is a reacurring question but if i was to put an eg6 conversion into my EG5 would it have to be engineered in NSW?

[[[d a n n y]]]

no it wont have to be
just change the engine numbers as i told u b4

[AzN_Allstar]

hey can anyone help me im about to drop a b18 in my eg i was looking to drop a b18c7 also know (b18cR ) but i can only come across a b18c vitr (jap spec ) is there a big diff should i just get the b18c vti r or should i wait and fine a b18c7 type r ?

[[[d a n n y]]]

wait for a b18cR
dude do a search and then you'll find big differences between the b18cr and b18c

[GGK20A]

can you find any thing on putting the k24 in please,
ppl are ripping me off saying it will cost up to 20 thou....

it does cost quite abit for a k24 conversion dude.. :o

[[[d a n n y]]]

can you find any thing on putting the k24 in please,
ppl are ripping me off saying it will cost up to 20 thou....

that sounds about right..
PM fatboyz he can probably work sumthing out for u

[rpm boy]

hey danny, apart from the ek9 front cut, what else would i need, to do a b16b conversion into my eg?

[[[d a n n y]]]

wat EG do u have
If u have a carby fuel lines etc
halfcut should have everything anywayz
oh and OBD2 to OBD1 conversion harness too

[twiggy]

Should you buy a new or second hand half cut? Does it really matter if your getting the correct price?

[teh_mechanic]

^^^ you wont find a 'new' half cut. a half cut is normally a car that got crashed into at the back and written off,but the engine bay is still good.

halfcuts are used cars,that are no longer being used,so they get chopped in half and we take the engine

[EG3B16]

Guys can u suggest anyone in Sydney that will do the conversion for a good price? Or anyone that can do it at all??

I know of a couple places already... maybe u guys have others in mind that I know of.

thanks,

[evoline]

Danny can do it.
he told me he'd do it for a beer.
fair deal i reckon.

[dougie_504]

Fantastic thread!

So just curious...I have a 94 EG5 Civic Sedan (EH9 chassis). It's got the stock D16Y1 96KW SOHC VTEC engine in it, and I'm dreaming of dropping in a H22A 200-220HP engine...so I would need:

*H22A engine
*New brakes? (currently got 4 wheel disc brakes, dunno specs)
*New ECU?
*New gearbox?
*New exhaust?

Including labour, I'm guessing this would cost something like $3,500-5,000?

[tangy]

ok looking at a B16a for my wifes EG (Gli/EFI) the question i have is will the engine bolt up to the auto gear box?

[spardikis]

];1656403']wat EG do u have
If u have a carby fuel lines etc
halfcut should have everything anywayz
oh and OBD2 to OBD1 conversion harness too


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DANNY~~~~~~

you need to send me the glove box ive paid for mate... and empty your P.m!!!

its comming on a month and you havent contacted me!!!

P.S sorry everyone, i dont mean to hijack threads but this guy has to be the slackest person in the world!!!!
.................................................. .................................................. ....

[billysch]

push push!!
it's good for a new driver like me
but as above said, some minor need to be fixed

[OpAsNa2c]

Just wondering i want to do a B18CR conversion right...
I own a 88 model Crx...
Would i really need a half cut?
Will it fit oke?
And where abouts in Australia can i buy one?
=)

[SiGO]

Hey all,

After some advice on upgrading from a twin carb engined EG4 to a EFI engine as one has come up at a pretty good price.

Granted I'm not expecting a huge leap in performance its just the current engine is getting on a bit and is going to need a fair bit of work over the next year as its up to 230000k's and starting to show.

I am toying with this idea at present however am a bit of a novice so just trying to work out what I am going to be looking at before I commit to it.

I guess what I'm trying to determine is what else am I going to need to do this, as its just the bare engine I would be buying.

I'd be swapping from the D15B4(twincarb) to the D16Y4 if that helps at all?

Any advice/assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated

[shebangs]

Noob question, how much typically for AUDM B18CR conversion drive in drive out?

JDM B18CR is roughly around the $8k mark. Is AUDM $6k or still closer to the $7k?

[NINOBROWN]

Has any one done a K20 conversion or have break down list of whats need?

[trism]

12-15k would be doing it cheap too...

Engine + trans = 6-8k
Mounts/axles/harness = 1700
clutch line/fuel setup = 700
all new fluids/some gaskets etc = 200
intake/headers/exhaust = 1500
ECU/Hondata = 1500
misc bits and pieces i cant think of = 200
rad/hoses/fan = 300 - 1k
If your EG isnt EFi = 600
brakes/suspension upgraded = 1-3k
engineers cert/registration/RWC etc = 2k

Adds up real quick. They are some quick estimates for you.. I'm sure theres things i missed.

You could save money buying used parts etc.. But overall, the swap ends up expensive in the end. You will no doubt find things that need replacing along the way aswell.. I just spend close to $100 on 2 new OEM ball joints that needed replacing... All these things add up...


here.

[rayb3na_]

would be more expensive soon.. aussi dollar turned to shit.. just a heads up

[Henessaayyy]

Errr, Out of curiosity, whys an engineers cert cost 2k?

[Lil Dan]

I think its normally somethin like 700-800 bucks, but factor into the equation that there's the chance you will have to fix up other stuff you were unaware of when you put it through inspection and itll bump up.

[Henessaayyy]

Thanks Dan, I hope you're right... 2k Seems way too unreasonable :(

[Lukezen27]

Errr, Out of curiosity, whys an engineers cert cost 2k?

Slap whoever quoted you that!

$800 mine cost and I'm heavily modified.

[doggys_fan]

would be more expensive soon.. aussi dollar turned to shit.. just a heads up

yeah it is toda just put up its price by 45%

[Henessaayyy]

Thanks Lukezen, Thats heaps more helpful.. Seeing $2k scared the crap out of me...
So the price of engineers cert. is different compared to how heavily modified your car is?

Lets say we had a EK with a K20 in it with coil over, asr sub frame, struts, ctr swaybars and some aftermarket LCAs... Stock K20 though .. ?
Wouldn't be as much as $800 right?

[Lukezen27]

yeah it is toda just put up its price by 45%

engineers cert dose not need any OS support its just time..

So there's no way anyone should double there cost...

Parts yeah for sure

[Lukezen27]

Thanks Lukezen, Thats heaps more helpful.. Seeing $2k scared the crap out of me...
So the price of engineers cert. is different compared to how heavily modified your car is?

Lets say we had a EK with a K20 in it with coil over, asr sub frame, struts, ctr swaybars and some aftermarket LCAs... Stock K20 though .. ?
Wouldn't be as much as $800 right?

$800 is normal and I doubt you'll get much lower

[Henessaayyy]

Awesome! Thanks for the help! :)

[EG5]

aftermarket lca / asr brace is a grey area once it comes to engineer cert.

[NINOBROWN]

Thanx trism, it sure does look like an expensive project.

I think B18 seems to be the way to go at the moment

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Errr, Out of curiosity, whys an engineers cert cost 2k?

Ummm dude no offence

Reading>You

It says "engineers cert/registration/RWC etc = 2k"

So that would be Engineering,Rego,Road Worth Certificate and similar things to get the car legal to be on the road


$800 mine cost and I'm heavily modified.

Now that is more appropriate

Most people/places ive asked pay around 1k (luke must know a really good place :p)

[trism]

Ummm dude no offence

Reading>You

It says "engineers cert/registration/RWC etc = 2k"

So that would be Engineering,Rego,Road Worth Certificate and similar things to get the car legal to be on the road



Now that is more appropriate

Most people/places ive asked pay around 1k (luke must know a really good place :p)



****ing people need to learn how to read ay lloyd

[rpm boy]

Umm why not go a H22a if your looking at puting a stock K20a in? half the price and just as good (In my opinion)

[NINOBROWN]

H22A is another option but doesn't look like there are many after market performance parts available for it compared to the B18

[trism]

H22A is another option but doesn't look like there are many after market performance parts available for it compared to the B18

thats the decider for most people

[rpm boy]

Fastest Na civic in aus is a H22a i think

[trism]

no, fastest N/A civic runs a k24 iirc

[rpm boy]

H22A is another option but doesn't look like there are many after market performance parts available for it compared to the B18

Just get I/H/E for it thats all you preety much need, and itll leave any other B18 with cams etc for dead... Displacement is best, especially for the street

[NINOBROWN]

A friend of mine has a H22A motor which supposed to have 20 more HP than a standard motor, Apparently there was only a limited amount released. Don't really know what the story is and can't seem to find much info about it

[TODA AU]

yeah it is toda just put up its price by 45%
In case there is some confusion,
Due to the current economic climate, though we havn't fixed any percentage increase accross the board as stated.
We are pricing parts @ the exchange rate of the day & only holding that quote for 24hrs.
Our Labour & tuning costs remain unaffected.

[hkjhd]

just a question that i have been attempting to research on (obviously not hard enough)
p platers under the new law cannot have a mod plate for the engine on the car they own/drive, yet i recently came across a picture on this forum (cant remember where abouts i saw it here however) of a eg civic with a b16a in it and the car owner was a p plater on the new laws
now i understand that a engine swap does not require a certificate if you fit another engine offered by the manufacturer for the vehicle in question, but i thought all audm eg civics came with d series engines?
sorry if some of the information is incorrect i am still learning about cars and i was hoping to buy a eg breeze and do the b16a swap until i came across this

[jdmEG5]

what you can do is, you can buy the car and use one of your parent's name who has a full license, that way, maybe chances are, you are able to do an engine swap. So basically, the car is under your dad's name ( for example ) and + if its under a person that is a full license, it is cheaper for insurance as well.

im just guessing, dont know if it will work, just a thought

[jay_freaker]

hey guys noob question here, what is obd1 and obd2?

[ECU-MAN]

different generations of ECU, the higher the OBD# the better ( and more universal ) diagnostics and emmesion control ect

[Onjays]

hey guys im 16 looking at buying my first car was looking at buying a eg hatch although i cant decide weather to get an si or vti? d16y1 vs d16a8? single cam vtec vs dual cam non vtec?

what are your opinions on what i should get?
thanks in advance
and yes my question may be classified as "noob" to you guys yes i know
or ill get told off because i didnt search hard enough? lol

[Red_EG4]

I guess it's completely up to you.
Do you want to do an engine swap? Do you want a sunroof or not?
IIRC both D16's have the same power output.

[Onjays]

oh ok so they do come with the same power output
i see
sunroof.. yeh.. so vti?
haha thanks for that
and yes i would love to do an engine swap down the road
b18c haha big dreams

[geeang]

oh ok so they do come with the same power output
i see
sunroof.. yeh.. so vti?
haha thanks for that
and yes i would love to do an engine swap down the road
b18c haha big dreams

You'd need to wait until you're on your full license before you can do an engine conversion though :thumbsup:

[Red_EG4]

oh ok so they do come with the same power output
i see
sunroof.. yeh.. so vti?
haha thanks for that
and yes i would love to do an engine swap down the road
b18c haha big dreams

If you want to do an engine conversion later on the I would suggest you get the VTi. So you can enjoy the sun roof and SOHC VTAK while you are on your P's then swap out for the B18C.

[specialst]

off topic a bit here but can i ask:
on the chassis of the EG and EH, are the chassis side brackets for engine mounts identical?

[CRSEX]

i have a civic with a zc crx harness and want to know how i can make it possible to run the b16a in it and also is there any other dissy that can be used to replace the td22u obdo distriubtor or if any magnetic pick up off any other honda could replace the td 22u one

[Snoop_gee]

this is a pretty good thread.

[specialst]

i have a civic with a zc crx harness and want to know how i can make it possible to run the b16a in it and also is there any other dissy that can be used to replace the td22u obdo distriubtor or if any magnetic pick up off any other honda could replace the td 22u one

replace the harness with the B16A's respective OBD 1or2 harness and ecu. makes life easier to just rip the old one out and put the new one in. no messy wire chopping and joining. also, your crx has non-vtec ecu thus i dont think its possible to run a b16a (obviously a vtec engine) off it.

[Kevin99543]

i have a civic eg5 with a d16 sohc vtec engine. if i put a b16a2 into a eg5 do i need to change harness? or i can keep the harness just change a ecu?

[Lukezen27]

i have a civic eg5 with a d16 sohc vtec engine. if i put a b16a2 into a eg5 do i need to change harness? or i can keep the harness just change a ecu?

I've just done that exact thing

You can as I have but need to wire in the knock sensor and 4 wire 02 sensor to the ECU that cames with the motor

[Kevin99543]

so the harness should be fine for my new engine,right?

[Lukezen27]

so the harness should be fine for my new engine,right?

Yeah if your B16A2 has an odb1 ECU

I got my EG5 but I wish I had a good nick B16A one to make life eazier

[Kevin99543]

yeah. i havent got the ECU yet,so u suggest that i get a odb1 ecu?

[Lukezen27]

yeah. i havent got the ECU yet,so u suggest that i get a odb1 ecu?

You have to if you want to use your EG5 loom or spend $$$$$$$$$$ to conversion harness

[Gio]

Pics have eaten sh!t on ecu-mans b18cr DIY

[[[d a n n y]]]

i have a civic eg5 with a d16 sohc vtec engine. if i put a b16a2 into a eg5 do i need to change harness? or i can keep the harness just change a ecu?

if u have a Vti
the b16a will drop straight in as it already has wires for the VTEC solonoid and oil pressure etc
and ECU has to be a OBD1 B16a ecu

[Kevin99543]

currently,im trying to connect o2 sensor to the ecu...its a 4 wire o2 sensor...but my old harness only come with 1 wire....
so anyone has the diagram?

[Lukezen27]

currently,im trying to connect o2 sensor to the ecu...its a 4 wire o2 sensor...but my old harness only come with 1 wire....
so anyone has the diagram?

Yup

Just lookup 0db2 pin outs and connect accordingly :thumbsup:

But why are you wiring up a odb2 sensor when your cars odb1?

[[[d a n n y]]]

jdm b16a's have 4 wire 02 sensor
doesnt matter if it's obd1 or obd2

[Lukezen27]

];2246807']jdm b16a's have 4 wire 02 sensor
doesnt matter if it's obd1 or obd2

Really, I though odb2 onwards had 4 wires..

[Kevin99543]

Can anyone do the wiring connection for me? i will pay $$$
im in SYD.

[[[d a n n y]]]

sent u a PM

[Kevin99543]

Can anyone do the wiring connection for me? i will pay $$$
im in SYD.

[rpm boy]

Can anyone do the wiring connection for me? i will pay $$$
im in SYD.

Pm Banjamin or fatboys, there the diyers in syd

[raysvtec]

gg on the post

[komciv]

hi all, few questions. has it been done or can it be done, fitting a b18a into a 91 gl civic with carby engine. now i have just purchased a full 92 integra complete with the b18a and is manual.

now i think i need hasports mounts to mount the b18a into the car, and the rest i can figure out, but the wiring is going to be the tricky one can any one help or point me in right direction, also the rear brakes from the integra will they fit my civic, i pretty sure my car is obd0 and the integra is obd1? has this been done? and will the integra fuel tank fit my car? and i think i have to change the lines thanks

i got the car cheap, hence why i going to use it. future plans are for a turbo b18a. once it in and little problems ironed out. something like gt28rs or similar. i went the b18a route, purely cost, and you can still get lots aftermarket gear for them.
i located in bathurst nsw, so any help would be great. i need to minise down time on car as it my daily. can maybe afford 1 week of road plus week ends thanks in advance.

[JDM-derek]

awesome stufff (Y)

[[[d a n n y]]]

hi all, few questions. has it been done or can it be done, fitting a b18a into a 91 gl civic with carby engine. now i have just purchased a full 92 integra complete with the b18a and is manual.

now i think i need hasports mounts to mount the b18a into the car, and the rest i can figure out, but the wiring is going to be the tricky one can any one help or point me in right direction, also the rear brakes from the integra will they fit my civic, i pretty sure my car is obd0 and the integra is obd1? has this been done? and will the integra fuel tank fit my car? and i think i have to change the lines thanks

i got the car cheap, hence why i going to use it. future plans are for a turbo b18a. once it in and little problems ironed out. something like gt28rs or similar. i went the b18a route, purely cost, and you can still get lots aftermarket gear for them.
i located in bathurst nsw, so any help would be great. i need to minise down time on car as it my daily. can maybe afford 1 week of road plus week ends thanks in advance.

dont need the hasport mounts
just use the teg mounts

[BOV]

My EG's engine (efi) is gone, looking to replace a EK DOHC VTEC, will the engine direct fit if i get a half cut?

[[[d a n n y]]]

yes it will but you will have trouble with the wirings..
EK B16a is a OBD2
you really need a EG6 or EG2 OBD1 B16a

[cvc247]

hey danny, i bought an SI EH with a B18/B20 block with all the mods but its still got either the stock eh ecu or stock b18 vti-r ecu.

I want to change the ecu to Hondata s200 but am not sure exactly what comes with the ecu as each guy selling one is selling it with something different.

What do you recommend? Your help would be appreciated! Cheers

[[[d a n n y]]]

just get a stand alone ecu like power FC or sumthing
or get a hondata chipped into your stock ECU and get it tuned

[Lukezen27]

];2770080']just get a stand alone ecu like power FC or sumthing
or get a hondata chipped into your stock ECU and get it tuned

Hey Danney

my loom is starting to die plus I've chopped and changed it its falliing appart, what the best cleanist loom for a B16A in an EG5?

[[[d a n n y]]]

Hey Danney

my loom is starting to die plus I've chopped and changed it its falliing appart, what the best cleanist loom for a B16A in an EG5?

loom as your wiring loom?
Your Vti loom is the best but if not try to get your hands on a EG6 SIR loom
well u know me
cut and chop is just not my thing

[Lukezen27]

];2770263']loom as your wiring loom?
Your Vti loom is the best but if not try to get your hands on a EG6 SIR loom
well u know me
cut and chop is just not my thing

Yeah I'm using my VTi loom now just added the 4 wires for the 02 but its dying with age,

I changed me heat sensor for the cluster and both ends broke off without hardlly any pulling, re-wired but shows how crap she is..

Chance if finding an EG6 loom?

[[[d a n n y]]]

well if u find a eg6 loom its better rather than cut and shut
remeber wat i told u when u first started doing this? lol

[Lukezen27]

];2770418']well if u find a eg6 loom its better rather than cut and shut
remeber wat i told u when u first started doing this? lol


Yeah I know lol

But these thing are getting harder and harder to fine :(

She going great considering all the extra parts I had to beg borrow and steel after so much was missing/broken or the wrong type!

Just a few things here and there left to go

[[[d a n n y]]]

yeah..
ill let u know if i find any eg6 looms

[89lude]

im droping in a b16 into my eg so if i get a vti loom i wont have to add any wires is that correct

[[[d a n n y]]]

yes that is correct

[hypo1]

can any do this coversion for me here?

[Healey29]

can you put a J30A1 honda accord sohc vtec 2.3lt engine into a 94 civic 4dr and what mods are required?

[Healey29]

can you put a J30A1 honda accord sohc vtec 2.3lt engine into a 94 civic 4dr and what mods are required?

i ment a F23a

[Pomfus]

Thanks heaps mate!

[murdarah]

(still a noob question)
What would fit for an Ek1 Gli?

[munkaii]

Hey guys,
Sorry to knock the thread on but have the following question for B18CR Swap into EG.

Can you use D-series compressor on B-motor. Any brackets necessary?

What about power steering pump? Should belt be standard B18 belts?

[munkaii]

Oh, can B16 A/C Compressor fit onto B18 without issue?

[shebangs]

Can someone provide rough prices for a B18C (C2, C7 Aus or C7 Jap) conversion or a K20A (Aus) conversion?

I'm deciding if i'll be a tight ass and sell the car, or drop a new engine in her.

Last time I played around with it it was about $8k for B18C7 Jap or almost $15k for K20A. This was over 2 years, so I'm expecting/hoping the prices have dropped a lot.

[Glocker]

Can someone provide rough prices for a B18C (C2, C7 Aus or C7 Jap) conversion or a K20A (Aus) conversion?

I'm deciding if i'll be a tight ass and sell the car, or drop a new engine in her.

Last time I played around with it it was about $8k for B18C7 Jap or almost $15k for K20A. This was over 2 years, so I'm expecting/hoping the prices have dropped a lot.

Check the marketplace, transplants going around $5k or so. I got quoted $6k to $7k workshop prices though.

[Dannyc4]

Thanks for the info in this thread i found it very helpful!!!!

[kypreo93]

hey guys do you know if a h20a will fit in a civic? and if so what gearbox?

[infurNOS]

hey guys do you know if a h20a will fit in a civic? and if so what gearbox?

What's a h20a? Suzuki engine?

[MIKO_OL]

What's a h20a? Suzuki engine?
Im assuming h22a

[RenzokukenJ]

];779508']Hello Boys and girls and every1 else whos intrested in changne motors in an EG.
This is for all you Noobs who dont bother to search and keep on posting the Question...
"Man my EG is so slow i hear an engine conversion will give it more up and go, How much and were blah blah blah"
so to stop all these threads from poping out. i have made a thread based on my experience and the rescources found on the forums.
*any info you think is incorrect please correct me*

EG's come in both Carby and EFI form
Carby equipped cars are

EG3 (Breeze)
EG4 (GL/later model Breeze)
EFi equipped cars are
EG4 (Gli)
EG5 (Si/Vti)
EG8 (Gli)

Engines Available..

Okay. to be honest there is a heap of engines that can fit in a civic. starting from our 1.6L SOHC VTEC engines to the V8 Chev engines. All these are possible with the help of our friend money, ALot of it.
Anywayz we'll just focus on the most common coversions.

B16a Engine cnversion (DOHC VTEC )

So far the most common and popular engine conversion.
the B16a is found in many civics starting from the EF9,EF8,EG6,EG9,CRX DELSOL,EK4, etc
though since the australian RTA rules stats that putting an engine that is old than the chassis is illegal. (ie puting a 92 model B16a into a 94 model GLi is illegal)
Putting a B16a into a EG is pretty simple. half cuts can be bought for 3.5-4K
though the B16as are getting rarer and rarer and pricier due to the popular demand.
these are rated at around 125kw for a JDM spec and 116Kw for a AUS spec B16a2
Some of us maybe confused by the engne codes (ie B16a, B16a2, B16a3,4, etc. Do not be afraid it is stll a B16a it just tells u where the engne was intended for.
B16a (JDM only sold in japan)
B16a2 (AUDM and some Asian countries )
B16a3 (Asian and European markets etc)
B16a4 is for another non JDM market

here is a DIYarticle that i put together some time ago
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5953

B18c Engne coversion (SIR-G/VTIR/ Type R) DOHC VTEC

This engine conversion is also pretty popular.
B18c engnes can be found in DC2 integras. B18c is the SIR (JDM), VTIR(AUDM) or the GSR (USDM) motor. this engine is rated 125-130kw depending on the specs.

The B18cR the most hardcore out of the box Honda DOHC VTEC engine.
these motors are rated 141KW for the AUDM Spec and 145KW for the JDM Spec.

compared to te B16a's these motors are very torqey. the B18c SIR and the B16a might have the same peak power but. the B18c's extra torque gives the car a very fast point to point acceleration.

Heres a DIY artive done by ECU-MAN (GOD OF DIY :D)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312

B18c halfcuts can be picked up for around 4-5K for a JDM SIR-G cut and
7-8k for a B18cR cut depending on the specs 96, or 98 spec.

H22a Engine coversion Prelude SIR/VTIR/type S

This engine conversion i am not familar but.
these engines can be found in the Gen 4,5 prelues, Accord Type R's etc
H22as can be picked up pretty cheap compared to the B serise has they are not as popular.
H22a's are very very torquey. There are few cars on the forums with H22a's and the can run mid to high 13's easy.

A DIY ariticel Done by Honda B blastn
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5796&highlight=h22a

H22as are rated at arond 142KW. but custom mounts such as hasports etc are needed to fit in into a EG

General Questions Asked

Here are some of the General Questions that i have seen on the forums that have been asked so many times.

Q.Do i need to upgrade my brakes if i do a engine coversion ?
A.Yes you do for safety (stop better) and to get a engineers certificate

Q.How much would a work shop charge me for labour?
A.1.5-2K depending n the work shop rate

Q.Can i use my old ECU for the new engine
A.No you can not each ECU is designated for each engine

Q.Can i use my old gearbox for the new engine
A.Yes depending on the engine if you have a Bb16/B18c gearbox and want to match it to a another Bserise engine yes u can. other wise No

Q.Can i use my stock exhaust on my new engine.
A.Yes but only up till the cat. the headers will be different if u have a different seriser engine ( ie D serise header wont for a B serise engine)

If you have anymore questions plz feel free to ask me

Thanks op