View Full Version : New Euro Door Doesn't Fit
brd_x
08-07-2006, 01:00 AM
Anyone else has my problem?
When I gently close the driver side door, the door closes halfway but remains unclosed. So, unless I use that little bit more force, like to conciously push it, it remains partly open. Noticed this on the first day of my new car delivery.
Will this get better with time? Should I complain? What can be done about this?
My passenger door closes, but there is a substantial open gap between the interior door panel to the front dash of 1cm. Its like things don't fit completely. I thought the fit and finish of Hondas are better than this....
??
destrukshn
08-07-2006, 01:23 AM
not sure on euro's, but on my civic, where the lock latches on to, some people call it strikers and so do i, you can move that, towards your door more, so there for closes the gap.
or maybe just ask the dealer?
timofytit
08-07-2006, 01:50 AM
You should definately contact your dealer. The only reason a cars doors wouldn't close properly is if they have a twisted chassis. As you say its like that upon delivery, thats poor workmanship. Personally, I think maybe its had a rough trip in transport/delivery. Warranty should cover it.
Unkie
08-07-2006, 03:58 AM
How gently do u mean? If its really soft, then yes that will happen, as the doors have a 'two stage' engage lock. The first stage will click in with gentle force, and the second that truely closes the door will take effort (close the door like u mean it). This is the case for pretty much every car out there. So try using a bit more force in closing ur doors. If the force needed is unreasonably high or borders on slamming your door, then get it to a dealer to have it looked at.
How gently do u mean? If its really soft, then yes that will happen, as the doors have a 'two stage' engage lock. The first stage will click in with gentle force, and the second that truely closes the door will take effort (close the door like u mean it). This is the case for pretty much every car out there. So try using a bit more force in closing ur doors. If the force needed is unreasonably high or borders on slamming your door, then get it to a dealer to have it looked at.
I'm with Unkie - you do need to consciously push to close the euro doors because of the hinge mechanism. A little push only gets the door half way.
euro69
08-07-2006, 10:42 AM
i have seen this alot.
i used to work at the car docks(holding yard) and most cars are being damaged at the docks due to the workers driving it and smashing it.
at least 3 out of 10 cars have been repairs at the dock workshop before they get to the dealers.
u must of been unlucky and got a bad one.
bring it bad to the dealer.
brd_x
08-07-2006, 10:58 AM
Yes, I do need to conciously push it harder. All the other doors are fine. With the same force as I close the other doors, it's almost as though the door goes in, but rebounds out to its half way closed position.
I'm really quite paranoid about this because Dealer said that the car he had for me before was damaged so he couldn't sell it to me. There was a delay in delivery before I finally picked up the car. When I got the car, there was 7 km on the odometer.... is this normal, or does this mean they've driven it to get it fixed? How can I really find out whether or not this is a damaged car? If the sly deale tells me it hasn't been damaged, I will never know. What are the consumer rights in terms of buying a new car, that hasn't been registered, but which has been damaged?
I've really lot trust with this dealer even prior to delivery. I've been waiting for their 'follow up call' a week after the delivery to tell them, but have got none after 2 weeks. Will let them know at the 1000km service I guess.
euro69
08-07-2006, 11:03 AM
cars in the yard are usually been driven up and down for wash and fittment to options. so 7 kms is normal.
dealers have no idea if cars been damage or not.
what i would do is go to the dealer and tell them to fix or tell them if u can exchange for a car that is not damaged.(if can)
chunky
08-07-2006, 11:07 AM
How gently do u mean? If its really soft, then yes that will happen, as the doors have a 'two stage' engage lock. The first stage will click in with gentle force, and the second that truely closes the door will take effort (close the door like u mean it). This is the case for pretty much every car out there. So try using a bit more force in closing ur doors. If the force needed is unreasonably high or borders on slamming your door, then get it to a dealer to have it looked at.
arent all cars lyk that?:confused:
Before you take it back to the dealer,try adjusting the door striker plate yourself.
Wind the window down first,then loosen the silver striker plate off on the "b" pillar(the two large phillips screws) just enough so that the plate can move but not enough that it falls or moves too easily.(It takes a bit of practise to get it right sometimes)
Then push the door closed holding the outside door handle up so that the engaging mechanism makes no contact with the striker plate,push the door in firmly until it is flush with the back door,holding the outside handle up all the time.
Now gently tighten up the striker plate so that it doesnt move as you tighten it right up.
Next try closing the door normally,if you feel a bit of drag on the striker plate, open the door and try and look and see if the loop on the striker plate is rubbing on either the top or the bottom of the door mechanism.
If it is, loosen a little again and tap the striker plate up or down a little(but not in or out),then tighten and try again.
You should have now adjusted the mechanism both for closing depth and for correct door height alignment. If this doesnt work,its off to the dealer.Good luck.
EuroDude
08-07-2006, 11:24 AM
arent all cars lyk that?:confused:
Yeah but the Euro's are extra springy/stiff.
By the way, when I close the drivers door on my Euro, it usually has enough force to close itself without needing to push it closed at all. The drivers door is pretty much the same as the passenger door.
If your front doors behave differently, then I would get your dealer to have a look.
How gently do u mean? If its really soft, then yes that will happen, as the doors have a 'two stage' engage lock. The first stage will click in with gentle force, and the second that truely closes the door will take effort (close the door like u mean it). This is the case for pretty much every car out there. So try using a bit more force in closing ur doors. If the force needed is unreasonably high or borders on slamming your door, then get it to a dealer to have it looked at.
my integra is like this, but seeing as its just your drivers door and the others are easier could indicate a problem.
timofytit
08-07-2006, 11:53 AM
There is a 30 day statutory warranty that all dealers must abide to. If they sell you a car with any fault, they must fix it free of charge. If not contact consumer affairs. I had to when i purchase my DC5R. Car yard sold it to me with free bent valves. Cost them $4k to fix it. And they had to do it by the act of the law.
euro69
08-07-2006, 12:01 PM
it is common for things like this happen to car before they come to dealers.
from experience, when i was working in the holding yard, everyone there working usually trash the crap out of any cars and the boss wouldnt know. which means the dealer wouldnt know too. cars were been damage, scrathes things like that. no one would know cause they just park the car back in the same spot. i've seen a car left out in the yard for 3 years with window down. it had bird crap everywhere on the inside and even left in the rain.
all the did was cleaned it all up and send it off to the dealer.
yeah so just take it back to the dealer to be replace. and before accpeting the new ride check it out first, before taking it home.
aaronng
08-07-2006, 12:25 PM
On my car, the rear doors close more easily, while the driver's door seems to be "tighter" and require a little more force. But I do not need to slam it to get it to close. Check the bottom and top lines of the door and see if it matches with the chassis. On the Euros, the doors and panels match up pretty well from the factory, so if you notice any bad fitting panels or doors that means some damage has occurred.
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