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Blk-Em1
12-05-2004, 10:02 AM
Hey guys!
Just wondering how much a H22A would cost roughly?
Also how much would it costs roughly to convert into a Civic?

LUD02C
12-05-2004, 10:39 AM
Well into a Gen 3 Prelude like mine, your looking at about $8,000

Not worth it.

A'PEXi
12-05-2004, 11:06 AM
+ - 5k including frontcut... but then u gotta think bout stiffening up the front and if u want air con etc for the civic...

LUD02C
12-05-2004, 11:44 AM
Remembering you need new brakes front and back as well as suspension and engineer's certificate.

There is abit of work to be done!

azjs
13-05-2004, 04:23 PM
$8K? Try $9K man...

-az

LUD02C
13-05-2004, 04:26 PM
your looking at about $8,000


$8K? Try $9K man...

-az

As i said ABOUT $8k :D (give or take a few thousand ;) )

SiR JDM
14-04-2005, 02:56 AM
greg if your serious bout it gimme a call ill tell you where u can get nicely prices 1/2 cuts

maxtron
14-04-2005, 11:51 AM
hehehe u guys got ripped off
i know a place that can do it for $3500 including brakes, ecu, new guages (prelude), air con, the lot

filo
14-04-2005, 07:44 PM
hehehe u guys got ripped off
i know a place that can do it for $3500 including brakes, ecu, new guages (prelude), air con, the lot

oh yeah??? so how come you wont tell us where?


Hey guys!
Just wondering how much a H22A would cost roughly?
Also how much would it costs roughly to convert into a Civic?

If you have the money to do the conversion, why not save up more and buy yourself a 97+ prelude instead. Same engine and better body. Or if you into other brand how about MR2. My opinion only.

Chi
14-04-2005, 07:50 PM
LOL where the hell did the idea of an MR2 pop out from? and how does that compare to a h22a FWD ?

Anyways I think hes after uniqueness for a h22a in a civic.

If he has interested ina vtir lude he woulda enquired about it.

**Ghost**
14-04-2005, 10:57 PM
if u can find an engine, i know a place (proper shop) that puts them in real cheap... its a new shop

maxtron
14-04-2005, 11:38 PM
its hondawreck on westall rd

joyride
21-04-2005, 03:45 PM
mate is that price to have it installed or just the goodies only?

maxtron
21-04-2005, 03:52 PM
yep
parts and installation for $3500

joyride
21-04-2005, 04:29 PM
i find that very difficult to believe.
give me their number so i can call to confirm this.

maxtron
21-04-2005, 07:28 PM
Honda Wreck
03 9558 5188

JDM Element
21-04-2005, 08:57 PM
That price is nuts...

are you sure thats into a civic and not into a lude Si model?
Very good price ..

maxtron
22-04-2005, 01:34 AM
thats on a prelude si
im not sure about it being on a civic
but the guy had done it on an accord

filoaccord
22-04-2005, 02:10 AM
i got quoted at 5300 buck including the front cut n conversion not charging me any extra bits

tRipitaka
22-04-2005, 08:54 AM
yep
parts and installation for $3500

beware.. you get what you pay for..

pornstar
22-04-2005, 03:04 PM
beware.. you get what you pay for..

bahaham how would u know ant u loser :P

EG4
22-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Honda Wreck
03 9558 5188

Have u ever seen the work done by Honwreck? it really becomes a honda wreck

Bowzer
22-04-2005, 06:46 PM
Yo Greg

Heres a rough run down with some things on your shopping list for this swap:

HCP/HASPORT Engine mounts allow ~ $600
3 engine mounts
optional mount for A/C ~ $100 (utilises a SOHC Civic A/C Compressor)
P/S Half to modify the P/S HP Line
Use 92+ Prelude Power Steering Pump & Bracket
Modify Civic Power Steering Lines to Prelude Pump

(I went for the HCP cheaper but doesnt require me to hack up the stock mounting locations)

Axles
Mix' Matching 90-93 Integra Axles w/90-93 Accord 5-spd Intermediate-Shaft
~ $300-$400 a set from a driveshaft joint
OR
DSS Stage 1 around $600-$700AUS once they land (ouch)

(going to see how the integra axles go first)

Halfcut
H22A allow ~ $2500 - $3500 varies with different suppliers (OBD1)
Havent seen any JDM 5th gen halfcuts in Australia yet...

(get one that has everything, half stripped cuts with missing parts makes your job a bit more troublesome)

Labour
Firstly Wiring
either purchase a OBD2B Conversion harness to OBD1
OR
Rewire OBD1 plugs and retain the OBD2B plugs on loom
OR
OBD2 (5th GEN) just splice the wires into the existing loom

Additional wires such as:
OBD1 -> injector resistor box, EGR Valve Lift Solenoid, EGR Vacuum Control Valve
OBD2, EGR crap from memory

Getting it road legal

$500 for a engineer's report....

Not to mention, your car being a 99-2000? prob have to fit a 5th gen H22A for it to be legal...

Conclusion... if you got lots of money to pay for someone to do it then yeah go ahead...

BUT..

All that trouble and the money i'd personally put out a bit more and put K-series...

If I hadn't purchased all my engine bits a year and bit ago right now i'd go down the K series path

OTHERWISE

Keep it B series

tRipitaka
22-04-2005, 08:54 PM
bahaham how would u know ant u loser :P

i learnt the hard way.. lol..

tegstar83
23-04-2005, 12:35 AM
Umm I did a search and just wanted to know what is the difference between all the ecu's eg: OBD2B/1 and what ecus are in whic car, if theres a thread please direct me to it as I couldnt find what I was looking for

Cvik_ryda
12-05-2005, 12:40 PM
i think it got to do with emission control. OBD 2 are on civic from 96 on ward. prelude gen 4 96' have OBD2. 95' back is ODB 1. Man im thinkin of doing it my self, H22a in a 96 EK hatch back. Im starting out with a new set of suspension Tein super street. u can use it now and change it to fit in the future when u drop the H22A in. then i do my brake, slotted rotor from DBA Vtir Integra caliper decent pad. done. Hasport mounts are expensive but life time guarantee. 1100 shipp to u if u live in melbourne. If u do live in Melbourne may be u can help me out with some idea and i give u wat i know. gud luk

tegstar83
12-05-2005, 01:18 PM
ohh ok I actually found out that it stands On Board Diagnostics so maybe theres two versions of it as well as emmissions

Cvik_ryda
14-05-2005, 06:47 PM
If you have the money to do the conversion, why not save up more and buy yourself a 97+ prelude instead. Same engine and better body. Or if you into other brand how about MR2. My opinion only.
If he go and buy a prelude or MR2:confused: then it will be just another MR2 or Prelude. Thats not the point of H22A conversion. If he get it done the civic will beat almost every stock sport car on the road include v8s, stock turbo skylines, your favorite MR2:confused: lol. Thats wat make it stand out, thats why he wants to do a conversion. putang ina

qiky
25-05-2005, 05:41 PM
Hmmm... I am not to sure why it is being frowned on to do a H22A conversion into a Civic, it is a really good option for an "All motor" car.. Check out what they are doing in the US and they are loving it.. It is not so much about the HP but the tourqe from a JDM H22A Spec S (I believe you can get the full front clip for about 4500 US) is awesome in a Civic...

tRipitaka
25-05-2005, 11:21 PM
it's more of a handling factor rather than power..
as the h22a is much heavier than any b-series engine, the car will be heavier at the front, causing understeer..
people don't really recommend it cos hondas are known to be very good handlers, and this conversion kinda wrecks that reputation.. :p

BADHBT
26-05-2005, 11:03 AM
alot or people think that but
i had no porblems with mine!

Bowzer
01-06-2005, 11:49 PM
it's more of a handling factor rather than power..
as the h22a is much heavier than any b-series engine, the car will be heavier at the front, causing understeer..
people don't really recommend it cos hondas are known to be very good handlers, and this conversion kinda wrecks that reputation.. :p

Have you driven one to be able to back this up....? :confused:

tRipitaka
01-06-2005, 11:51 PM
isn't it logical to think that the heavier it is at the front, the more understeer ur gonna get ?

Bowzer
02-06-2005, 12:08 AM
Its not the initial weight, you gotta take into account where the weight gets added.... i.e the weight balance

Picture this scenario, adding 35 kg where the radiator support compared to 35kg where the firewall will the handling be the same here?

The engine mounts design that shifts the weight towards the centre of the car is what the HCP and the HASport mounts have taken into consideration.... other factors such as clearance and driveshaft geometry (straight as possible)

The weight of these motors have been compared on h-t and debated to death lol.... Also estimated weight for the H22A is 350lb which is 158.76kg B16a/B18c ~250/275lb which is 113.40kg/124.74kg

As for this extra weight, shedding this weight by putting a CF bonnet, relocating the battery of course this isnt necessary, stiffer springs, upgrade sway bars to beefier ones things that you prob would do if it were a B series and yeah you got a engine that was design to move heavier accords and ludes into a lighter chassis... well the debate goes on...

Lokmok1234
02-06-2005, 10:49 PM
I can do it for like 1 grand..coz i can do it myself.
and a friend of mine can get me parts straight from japan. :wave:

vtec90accord
03-06-2005, 12:46 AM
I did a conversion on my 90 model accord and it cost me $2000 for the front cut which was a JDM 94 prelude, then i sold my old engine and gear box for $600. I did all the work myself. The most exspensive will be buying new suspention and brakes, You will also find that the car will chew through the front tyres and will handle a little strange with the extra weight in the front.