Selling Euro buying S2000

[pilotb777_300]

welll after much thinking and a few posts here about my euro, I've come to the conclusion that I THINK I wana sell or exhange for something with a bit more performance... now I know this post should probably be in the S2K forum, but I wanted opinions from Euro owners first...maybe someone can talk me outta doing this ! I initially bought the euro 1.5 years ago thinking its economical, efficient, will keep its value and is practicle... so far, the euro has been a great car and lots of fun to drive... however I've noticed its value dropping more dramatically than I had thought it would, and I just want something with more performance and a bit of a head turner. I'm 25 and no wife/family at the momement so I dont really have a need for a 4 door. I'm still 50/50 at the momement to wether I should sell and buy a 2 door 2 seater or just be happy with the euro... whats everyone out there think ??? how does a euro compare with something like an S2K ? is an s2K totally impracticle to be driving arount o work everyday ?? or should I put up with the euro for now till I can afford another 2 seater weekend car...

[aaronng]

Next time, edit your thread and not post a new one. I've deleted the other thread.

If it is you alone in one car, then it is up to you go to S2000 or Euro. Your Euro's value dropped because you bought it new. Imagine if you bought an S2000 new. It would be roughly the same percentage loss.

Between the Euro and S2000, the Euro feel more nippy in street driving because of the torque. When both cars are pushing it on the track in a straight line, the Euro will keep up and be at the tail of the S2000 in 1st gear. Once you reach 7300rpm and have to shift to 2nd gear, the S2000 will pull away further and the Euro will never catch up.

[EuroDude]

Its your personal preference.

If you want a luxurious quick practical smooth vip sedan with consistant power delivery to use for commuting, the Euro is the way to go.

If you want a sporty VtecYo high revving roadster, and dont mind a rough/sporty ride and the insurance premiums and theft appeal, then go for the S2000.


My EG Civic was sporty and was quite rough and bumpy on the road, and the gearbox was annoying in traffic (similar to an S2000 I imagine). Moving onto a Euro was a breath of fresh air, the smoother gear changes (thanks to the triple cone synchos) and smoother sussy is much better for peakhour traffic and Sydney potholes :p

[matt]

i was replying to the now deleted thread so ill try again.

im not a EURO owner but this was my opinion of the cars your looking at.


EURO: as nice as it is i was i felt would get bored of it performance wise, particularly after having driven the DC5 and S2K. i also have no family etc so i had no need for 4 doors.

S2K: very quick and fun to drive, but for me it was a tad impracticle cos i occasionally have to carry stuf around for work and boot is rather small.
and for what i was spending teh S2K's were all 99 fairly high k's and not in the best nick when compared to DC5R.

so perhaps add DC2R, DC5R/S to your list aswell and you might find a good comprimise to your situation

im not sure it helps but good luck with your decision.

EDIT: i ended up buying a DC5R

[yfin]

If power is the issue just wait until the end of the year - lots of power options will reveal themselves... Supercharging, hondata, etc. Or wait to see what Honda releases as a replacement in the next year or so.

But you can't really go wrong with the s2000 either. My only criticism about the s2000 is that it is starting to look a bit old (because it is). If I had a choice as to spending 40k on a used car or 40k on a new one - I would probably go new and get a Golf GTI, etc.

[pilotb777_300]

Thanks for the Reply guys.... I just browsed the s2K forum.... these ppl are talking about 6K insurance premiums !!!! I didnt think insurance got that high ! for any car... I'm 25 and clean dirving history so I dont think it'll be that bad...I'll get a quote myself tomorrow. How does the Integra Type R compare to the s2000 in terms of perforamce??.. and is there a huge leap in performance difference between the Type R and the euro. I've read before that a euro can keep up with a type R quite easily.

[yfin]

Thanks for the Reply guys.... I just browsed the s2K forum.... these ppl are talking about 6K insurance premiums !!!! I didnt think insurance got that high ! for any car... I'm 25 and clean dirving history so I dont think it'll be that bad...I'll get a quote myself tomorrow. How does the Integra Type R compare to the s2000 in terms of perforamce??.. and is there a huge leap in performance difference between the Type R and the euro. I've read before that a euro can keep up with a type R quite easily.
On the road you are unlikely to see a big difference as 0-100 times are not leap years apart. (CL9 vs DC5R)

Stock for stock, on the track, the DC5R is going to be better than the CL9. I note, however, at a motorkahna day I saw the Euro and the DC5R with similar times (obviously driver makes a big difference too).

I see the s2000 as in a different league to the DC5R but that is just my personal opinion.

[pilotb777_300]

On the road you are unlikely to see a big difference as 0-100 times are not leap years apart. (CL9 vs DC5R)

Stock for stock, on the track, the DC5R is going to be better than the CL9. I note, however, at a motorkahna day I saw the Euro and the DC5R with similar times (obviously driver makes a big difference too).

I see the s2000 as in a different league to the DC5R but that is just my personal opinion.

thanks yfin..

I thought as much.. if u look at the numbers on paper the euro has I think 140KW and 225NM of torque... where as the DC5R is 147 and approx 192 nm torque.. The euro has a a touch less power but more torque, however the Type R obviously weighs less and I asssume the gears have different ratios.. what I'm trying to get at though is the performance difference between the 2 isnt all that great... for what I want, I dont think it is worth going through all the hastle of selling and buying a new car to get a type R... if I'm gonna do this I might as well get something FAST ! and a little flashy ! :)

btw just for the record, I bought my euro second hand not new. I paid 27000 for it in early 2005. paid maybe an extra 3K on rims and lowering. Now I'm seeing them on carsales.com for 23900 to 26000 which isnt too bad I guess, but whats got me worried is the price of the luxury ones... they have come down sooo much. You can get a luxury 6SM 2003 for about 29K now. That has to eventually impact the price of the standard model as well...

[pilotb777_300]

Just incase anyone is interested, I just got a quote from just car for a 1999 S2000... $1390 per year and 1200 excess.. which isnt too bad I guess Considering my euro is costing me close to $900 a year...

[industrie]

join the dark side of the force...s2k...:wave:

[pilotb777_300]

join the dark side of the force...s2k...:wave:

I'd love to mate ! just trying to weigh the good and the bad when compared with the euro. Do you own one industrie ??? and if so what r ur impressions of it compared to say a 4 door sports sedan such as the euro ?

[EuroDude]

How much peak hour traffic do you drive in per day?

[_CiVIC_]

your steering away from a euro???

i have an integra typeS and i'm being driven to a euro LOL!

well not exactly.. getting it for mum, trading her civic in for one.. we need a bigger car for the long drives..

[pilotb777_300]

How much peak hour traffic do you drive in per day?

well my trip to work involves a mixture of freeway driving and city driving. I'm stuck in traffic for maybe 20 mins of my 40 min trip... its not too bad, but I will be doing some bumper to bumper driving. Is the s2K really bad for that ??? I found the euro handels it very well and the clutch is nice and light...

[_CiVIC_]

mate from my experience in my type S, driving in traffic is annoying, seats are hard, clutch is hard.. would prefer an auto in peak hour traffic lol!

are the seats in the euro soft and comfy??

[pilotb777_300]

mate from my experience in my type S, driving in traffic is annoying, seats are hard, clutch is hard.. would prefer an auto in peak hour traffic lol!

are the seats in the euro soft and comfy??


The euro really does handel the traffic great ! the seat are the most comfortable I've ever seen..very good back support with enough lateral support to take fairly sharp corners without tumbling over the edge ! The only reason I wanted to change it is due to the fact that I can always drive a euro later on but now is the only chance I'll ever get to drive a car like an s2K. Drive it around for 2 or 3 years get the sports car bug outta my system then get a nice 4 door sports sedan...

[_CiVIC_]

well with that in mind mate, you should be fine with an s2k, but are u ready to fork out around $76,000 for it??

why not go for a type S ;)

should be sporty enough hahaha..

the bug will be out of your system by a year of driving it no doubt hahaha

[pilotb777_300]

Yeah I thought about a type S or a Type R, but performance wise, its very similar to a euro... so I wouldnt really be upgrading much there.
S2K's I was lookin at are at the 35 000 dollar mark.. only problem with that is, its hard to find one that hasnt been reved to hell and back !

[_CiVIC_]

exactly LOL!

thats common with most 2nd hand hondas.. especially vtec ones lol!

once the owner is aware of vtec they will experience it.. and once you vtec u hardly ever stop.. thats out of all honesty lol

[Slugoid]

Yeah I thought about a type S or a Type R, but performance wise, its very similar to a euro... so I wouldnt really be upgrading much there.
S2K's I was lookin at are at the 35 000 dollar mark.. only problem with that is, its hard to find one that hasnt been reved to hell and back !

Similar in performance in the power, but does the Euro handle as well as the Type-S or R?? Don't think so ;). If I wanted a real sports car with a bit of comfort, Type-S all the way. The Euro is, and always will be a family car.

If you don't mind older cars, get the DC2R. It's a pretty raw car (better than the Aus DC5R), but it's more practical than the S2K. Personally, I would get the s2k IF I could live with 2 seats as my only car. Actually, I'd get one anyway even if it's impractical cos it's one of my dream cars.

[euro77]

It really comes down to your preference. If you want something of a sports car, then trade in your euro with S2000. Remember though that S2000 can only take 2 people, so driving with mates (read: more than 1 mate) is out of the question.

[ECU-MAN]

both cars are nice to drive

and both have both good points and bad poits

S2K can be a bit unpracticle for space, ( especially the boot, its a joke ) but is someting different to drive, really fun car that just wants more and more.

could do with a little more tourque and modding it is expensive


Euro handles really well and has nice low rpm grunt, 4dr more convinient, and also looks good on the road.

but being able to pimp it in summer with the top down is awsome in the s2k,

if your not concerned about 2 seats 2 doors, small boot, rear tyre wear, get an S2K, you wont regret it.

[petsfact]

don't settle for the go kart! :P

you will know it's too small when spending time with your gf in the car overnight.... (or maybe just 5 minutes) :D

[pilotb777_300]

thanks everyone... I'm really split down the middle now ! the more I think about it the harder it is to decide ! Both do have good and bad points... I think the next step for me is to go test drive an s2000 for myself. I'll see how that goes first ! and I'll let you guys know how it goes next weekend hopefully if I can find one for sale near by. btw does anyone know how bad/good the resale value of an s2000 would be compared to a euro.. say if I keep it for 2 years ???

[red_s2000]

Both are different cars. FF VS FR, closed vs opened top, 4 doors vs 2 doors.. the list will go on. Euro is a nice car if I ever want a reasonably priced quality family car, but thats it. S2K is a FR 2 door sports car. I picked S2K because I want to drive one while I am still young, when I am ready to settle down and start a family, I will get myself a Euro.