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TYPE-ONE
24-07-2006, 04:20 PM
hey guys.

Just wondering if anyone has insider information into how exhaust companys make the stainless steel tips burnt, titanium look.

Thanks

h22a accord
24-07-2006, 04:41 PM
good question, ive never thought about it but i would like to know too. Im thinking it would be some sort of high heat treatment and then sudden cooling etc.

Tobster
24-07-2006, 04:47 PM
Probably blowtorch. You just need to burn the metal (have a look at an overheated drill bit).

The only problem with burning metal is it gets soft...

spoonsir2
24-07-2006, 05:07 PM
was told with an "oxy burner,.... "

philBo
24-07-2006, 05:08 PM
im sticking my neck out there and saying that its either the way they cut it..or as tobster mentioned, heating it some how.

integral90
24-07-2006, 05:31 PM
Could it just be staining of the metal?

bigjo5
24-07-2006, 09:29 PM
was told with an "oxy burner,.... "

yup i second that.. try using a oxy welder... that works... just burn ther outer tip of the exhaust and let it cool then u get that titaninum tip effect.

jdm_kid
24-07-2006, 09:32 PM
for the gold effect, steam dream it hahha

TYPE-ONE
24-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Ok. I'll ask my exhaust fitter to give it a go.

m3ntAL_l2
24-07-2006, 10:02 PM
do u mean that the tip of it turns blue??:confused:
if thats wot u mean then its the metrial of teh exhaust, it changes colour when its heated

vteccoupe
24-07-2006, 10:16 PM
hey guys.

Just wondering if anyone has insider information into how exhaust companys make the stainless steel tips burnt, titanium look.

Thanks

ricer! haha :thumbsup:

TYPE-ONE
24-07-2006, 10:25 PM
When you buy a s/s header it turns purple after a while so heating the inside pipe is prolly what has to be done.

Q_ball
25-07-2006, 07:08 AM
I would believe that its caused by the heating of the metal then cooling it quickly.
The quick changes in heat allows for the colour change in metal.

Tobster
25-07-2006, 10:18 AM
Nothing to do with how quickly you heat or cool it (you're not hardening and tempering for those who remember any metalwork from school), or whether it's done inside or out.

It's not what metal it is, although the type of metal will be affected by more by different temperatures.

Just heat it (a lot -- oxy-acetelene torch (blowtorch) is the most controllable, but you could stick the end in a campfire if you wanted -- ever stuck an empty tin in a fire?) and you are literally burning the metal -- that's what causes the discolouration.

It was probably done first by accident and now it's trendy...

NightKids
26-07-2006, 03:31 AM
this is a good question & it definately doesn't belong in the 'noob' section. if anyone knows how to do this then we don't have to fork out so much money for the Spoon titanium gear knobs

TYPE-ONE
26-07-2006, 01:44 PM
you mite get the look of spoon titanium but you wont get the same feel. I got one. Loving it!!!!!!!!!!1

Twincam16
26-07-2006, 07:03 PM
you mite get the look of spoon titanium but you wont get the same feel. I got one. Loving it!!!!!!!!!!1

... and you dont need to sell your ass or soul for it either... unlike spoon gear... :p

The colour change is caused by heating certain metals. Dont bother googling either, as the compounds used in your exhaust would only be known by a metallurgist, and I doubt your gonna take a chunk off and get it tested. All stainless steel metals (all manufactured metals/alloys actually) are made up of a few different compounts, and as such, different percentages of different steel - this affects the grade of stainless steel, and the colour it burns.

Just stick it in heated coals overnight, or oxy-acetelene it (around the tip!)... Better yet, go and buy one from liverpool exhaust, they are getting cheaper all the time.

Boban
27-07-2006, 10:46 AM
So has anyone done it yet to their exaust, i'm interested to see how it turns out

Onrmnd
31-07-2006, 12:47 AM
yeah ditto!

Limbo
12-09-2006, 02:14 PM
when they welded on the tip i notice that the effect on where the welds are are a blue burnt look like the blue flamed tip. I assume if you zap the inside with weld then it will do the same thing (can always grind off the weld). Or similarly heat it till it glows then let it cool.

panda[cRx]
12-09-2006, 08:12 PM
So has anyone done it yet to their exaust, i'm interested to see how it turns out

we did it on my mates evo3 as the blue on the tip had faded over time. just used a blowtorch he had in his garage, turned out great. looked like it did as new :thumbsup:

string
13-09-2006, 11:26 PM
you mite get the look of spoon titanium but you wont get the same feel. I got one. Loving it!!!!!!!!!!1
Yeah I love the smooth touch of titanium... I PITY THE FOOL WITH STAINLESS!

SKREMN
15-09-2006, 10:42 PM
at my mates 21st we went to the industrial area and stole a 40 gallon drum
we had a fire going in it all night the next day the drum had the coloured finnish on it not long after that turned brown from rust

CUL8R
16-09-2006, 06:07 AM
my exhaust tips have got this nice black layer around the ends(rich fuel mix and launch controll spurting fuel), once the exhaust polished a bit with a wet towel they look tops!

yourfather
16-09-2006, 09:08 AM
was told with an "oxy burner,.... "

ding ding ding we have a winner.

aimre
17-09-2006, 11:18 AM
its oxidation of the metal at high temps.

a quote from my metalurgy work from uni,
"Surface finish is inferior to cold work because of oxidation (http://vista.elearning.unsw.edu.au/webct/mediadb/viewEntryFrameset.jsp?id=24694107) of the metal"