Aux power outlet wire

[avid]

Does anyone know if the wire for the aux power outlet in the centre armrest console exists in Standard '05 Euros? I want to put a socket in so that i can use it for my mobile phone charger instead of the cigarette lighter socket.

[BiLL|z0r]

I too would like to know this. Also how does the little cover come off where the aux power output exists in the '06?

[CRXer]

I know nothing bout euros,but cant u just parallel off the back of the existing cig lighter,surely it cant be too far awayfrom where u want?

[avid]

Yeah,you could just run the wire,but thats not as cool as just finding that little sucker hiding under there.... just waitin' for someone to connect him up.

[MiSloVic]

Does anyone know if the wire for the aux power outlet in the centre armrest console exists in Standard '05 Euros? I want to put a socket in so that i can use it for my mobile phone charger instead of the cigarette lighter socket.

there should be an aux power outlet in the centre rest?

[avid]

Not on the Standard Euro.Thats why i'm asking the question.

[MiSloVic]

oh.. sorry.. there is 1 in the euro sports and i'd always thought that the sports is just a std model with curtain airbags.

[CRXer]

oh.. sorry.. there is 1 in the euro sports and i'd always thought that the sports is just a std model with curtain airbags.

In that case they prob share the same loom,so you will prob find a aux plug under the arm rest somewhere or near by

[avid]

I dont think thats necessarily so.The wiring looms in the car are different in places to the Lux/Sport models,eg fog light connections, sunroof, to name two. I know it probably sounds lazy,but i dont want to go thru the hassle of pulling out the console to find the wire if its non existent.I just thought that someone has probably already removed the console with a Standard model,and may or may not have noticed a spare connector wire sitting there.

[EuroDude]

The Standard 06 euros have the Aux outlet, the wire runs under the gearstick and cup holder.

Its quite easy to have a look under there and check for the wires, just lift up the gearstick surround, and then lift the cup holder up. I dont think there are any screws holding these in, they are held in buy a few clips.


If the 05 Lux uses the same center console as the Standards, then you should be able to lift the rubber floor inside the center console and lift off the plastic cover in the corner to check for the wires.

If there are no wires, then you can simply tap some wires into the ciggy lighter, and maybe buy a Honda aux outlet from your dealers spare parts department.

[euro77]

what is this aux power outlet? isn't it the same as the ciggy lighter?

[EuroDude]

Yep same basic shape, although the contacts looks a bit different and the barrel looks longer if i'm not mistaken. Need to have another look to be sure.

[euro77]

so how does it different with using the ciggy lighter except for the location?

[avid]

Ok,i took off the small plastic cover inside the box,however it only gives access to the handbrake adjustment.Cant see or feel the wire there,but its a small space.Not sure how you go about getting the gearstick surround up,it seems to be pretty tightly fixed under the console.Also had a look at the cup holder,that aint gonna come out easy either.Theyve certainly hidden things well in this model.

[EuroDude]

You need to remove the gearstick surround first, because that covers part of the cup holder surround. All you need to do is lift the gearstick surround up towards the front and upwards (it can be quite tight the first time you remove it), then lift the cup holder part up towards the rear then straight up (which is also quite tight the first time). You need to use some strength and nudging/shifting since the clips have big groves holding it in place.


I had a quick look and the barrel of the Aux outlet is longer, so you cant put the ciggy lighter in there, but you may be able to put other 12v accessory plugs in the long barrel. Although I think both outlets are different/incompatible types.

[avid]

A mate of mine has the 06 Sport,i might check and see if his aux socket will take my mobile and MP3 power plugs,if it doesnt then i guess i just put in another cig socket.Have to go now.Will tackle the console and gearstick later.Thanks for all the input so far guys.

[avid]

OK,i ve checked my mates Euro sport.The aux socket is slightly bigger diameter,but thats ok because most of my power adapters are always a very tight fit in cig sockets anyway.So its back to chasing that elusive wire.Still havnt had the guts to start yanking at that gearstick sleeve.If any of you have that console out in the meantime,please let me know.

[Adagio]

Does anyone know if the wire for the aux power outlet in the centre armrest console exists in Standard '05 Euros? I want to put a socket in so that i can use it for my mobile phone charger instead of the cigarette lighter socket.

What power outlet? I have a 2005 Lux Euro and no sign of the auxilary in the car or in the owners manual??
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[EuroDude]

lol its in the center armrest compartment. here's a pic from my 06 std~

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1407/12vaccac9.jpg

[Adagio]

I looked there and it is just a blank??? so do I get a fix by Honda?:confused: It would have been really useful for the little fridge. Thanks for taking the effort to photograph the area.
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[EuroDude]

Maybe your euro is a late 2004 Lux model?

[Adagio]

I bought it in May 2005 and the build date is April 2005? The plot thickens!!
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[aaronng]

Aux power outlet is only on the 06 Euros, all three Sport, standard and luxury. It is not available on the 03-05 models.

[Adagio]

That clears up the issue thank you. So the 06 model must have a new wiring loom to incorporate this, and other, new features.
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[avid]

Yes,thanks for the pic EuroDude,great shot in difficult location.
What a bummer if Aaronng is correct and the earlier models dont have the wire.I'm not giving up hope until someone gives me a definite answer though.
My console has that removeable corner section that holds the socket in the later models like EuroDude's,so its my guess that an '05 model somewhere in the world had the aux socket fitted,and just mabye Honda were too busy to remove that one little wire on the loom.

[EuroDude]

It was probably an international option in 2005. I recalled someone saying that it was included in the AUDM 2005 Lux's, but I guess thats not the case, or it was an optional extra at least.

Give your honda dealer a call and ask them :)

Here's some interesting info
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106985&postcount=7

[avid]

EuroDude,i find the Honda dealers up here very unhelpful at the best of times,but especially if you want info on things like EuroR parts or even optional parts that should fit your car.Jeezz, even when i give them part numbers,they still feel they have to warn me that its not a part for my car (EuroR parts) then crack up when i still ask them to check availability and prices on their computer system.Then when they find the parts are actually available(mostly)in Australia, they ask ME why.When i tell them there is a large base of Honda enthusiasts in Aus who want, and order these parts, they just get that look on their faces that says "no shit,didnt realize that".Occassionally you'll find some guy who actually knows something about Honda cars and parts and is willing to sus out stuff for you,but they are few and far between up here.Just mostly 9 to 5ers who would just as soon be selling washing machines at the local Retravision.Should have heard the BS when i first tried to buy the Lux 17" rims from them.Anyways,yea,ive rung them up,they want a VIN number and blah blah blah, and i've explained it all to them,and then they were going to ring me back,but never did.I'll try somewhere else when i feel up to it all again.I wonder if that guy Kanthan (in the link) ever got his parts.

[EuroDude]

Yeh its strange how they dont want to make a quick buck and sell us these items...

It seems that there is an issue with people buying various honda parts to "refurbish" a stolen honda, and the dealer spare parts departments are wary of this - which is probably why they ask for your VIN number and so on.

[avid]

If i was still in the business i would put my parts sales team on a commission/incentive scheme,that might get some of them moving.I dont think a lot of Dealer Principals realize how much better their parts departments could be if they "actively" pursued sales.They mostly just sell through the service or sales Dept and try and establish links with local body shops, then sit back and wait for them to come in for parts.When was the last time you saw a dealers spare parts dept have a sale or promotion?Dont tell me they operate on small margins,that wasnt the case when i was in Dealerships.I could buy most parts at nearly 25%-33% off retail.Mabye things are tighter now but i doubt they dont have some margin for discount.

[yfin]

Yes,thanks for the pic EuroDude,great shot in difficult location.
What a bummer if Aaronng is correct and the earlier models dont have the wire.I'm not giving up hope until someone gives me a definite answer though.
My console has that removeable corner section that holds the socket in the later models like EuroDude's,so its my guess that an '05 model somewhere in the world had the aux socket fitted,and just mabye Honda were too busy to remove that one little wire on the loom.

The 04 Euro has that removable corner section too that holds the socket

[avid]

Yfin have you ever had your console out?(hope i'm not getting too personal there. lol)

[yfin]

Yfin have you ever had your console out?(hope i'm not getting too personal there. lol)

Only removed the section around the gear shift.

I was looking at that socket area as I was working out where to place an MP3 player and where to run a SNHOND3 connection.

If you want wiring info - look at the Workshop manual.

[avid]

Well,ive just spent the last 1/2 hour trying to get the cover plate over the gearstick and the centre cup holder section out, along with the rest of the console in anticipation of my Comptech short shifter arriving today or tomorrow.What a bitch to remove!!! I've never seen so many strong clips holding in such a non critical part in all my life.Hey,but thats one of the things i like about Honda.A bit of overkill here and there.I've put a bit of vaseline on the clips in the vain hope that it might make it just that bit easier if and when i have to remove it all again sometime in the future.
What i can report is that on the 05 Euro Standard there is no extra wire in place for the aux socket in the console compartment box,present on the 06 models.Bummer.
Its no big deal now ive got all the bits off to parallel another wire,but it would have been nice to find it all the same.Now... if i can just find some of those old double adapter spade terminals buried in the shed somewhere....

[aaronng]

Well,ive just spent the last 1/2 hour trying to get the cover plate over the gearstick and the centre cup holder section out, along with the rest of the console in anticipation of my Comptech short shifter arriving today or tomorrow.What a bitch to remove!!! I've never seen so many strong clips holding in such a non critical part in all my life.Hey,but thats one of the things i like about Honda.A bit of overkill here and there.I've put a bit of vaseline on the clips in the vain hope that it might make it just that bit easier if and when i have to remove it all again sometime in the future.
What i can report is that on the 05 Euro Standard there is no extra wire in place for the aux socket in the console compartment box,present on the 06 models.Bummer.
Its no big deal now ive got all the bits off to parallel another wire,but it would have been nice to find it all the same.Now... if i can just find some of those old double adapter spade terminals buried in the shed somewhere....
I've been trying to get the trim around the handbrake off but it is on too tight. Well, you've confirmed the info for us. So + points for you!

[avid]

Yea i had the most trouble with that section as well.What i did was used a flat piece of metal about 20mm wide and and a few mill thick covered with some thickish tough rag (tea towell) pushed in under the top(front)corner and ever so carefully twisted the metal to lever up the most outside edge(closest to the corner).Dont twist the other way as the section closer to the handbrake is weaker.Just when i thought it was going to snap the housing it popped up with a bang.After that i did the rear clip on the same side,then back to the front right clip and after that it was all over,out she came. Me won, Euro nil..until next time.

[avid]

Wow,drove to work today with the console out.Didnt realize how much noise transmits through that grommet that the gearshift cables pass through.What a racket.The console does a great job obviously of insulating that area.Think i might be adding a little extra sound deadening foam to that area before i put it all back together,might help to reduce that noise you hear when you tend to leave your hand resting(pushing) on the gearstick.

[avid]

Well,my console and gearshift are all back together now with the new Comptech short shifter and the wiring i've run to set up my aux power socket when it arrives from Honda.
My impressions about the short shifter are mixed. It certainly makes the throws a lot shorter,but imo the change from 1st to 2nd requires significantly more effort than before,however all the other shifts are firm and nicely positive and are easier than the 1-2 shift.I'm hoping that as the gearbox runs in a bit more the 1-2 shift will become easier.
I also noted that the gearknob on my '05 doesnt have a lock nut on the bottom.What it does have is a very tight plasic bush that requires a fair bit of effort to unscrew initially,but i noticed that it was a lot easier to screw back on and also allowed me to screw the knob back on further.This is a mixed blessing in that as you shorten the stick it makes the throws seem even shorter, but it requires even more effort to change gears,BUT, now that ive screwed it down so far, when i unscrew it a little to lengthen the stick the knob is too loose and twists.Unfortunately the knob design doesnt seem to allow the fitment of a locknut.Need to investigate this further.
I also added a square of sound deadening foam around the gearshift cables and grommet thru firewall area.Its made a big difference in terms of the noise i used to hear coming thru from the gearbox.Im very pleased with this little addition just by itself.Well worth doing when you have the console/ashtray/CD box out.

[aaronng]

Hi avid, good to hear you got everything together. I have to give you vital info about the shortshifter.


My impressions about the short shifter are mixed. It certainly makes the throws a lot shorter,but imo the change from 1st to 2nd requires significantly more effort than before,however all the other shifts are firm and nicely positive and are easier than the 1-2 shift.I'm hoping that as the gearbox runs in a bit more the 1-2 shift will become easier.
With the short shifter, the time in neutral during the 1-2 shifts is DRASTICALLY reduced. So what changed? Previously with the stock shifter, say you shift from 1st to 2nd and it goes from 4000rpm to 2000rpm. With the long throw of the stock shifter, when you are pushing it into 2nd, the input shaft RPM would have dropped a bit to around 3000rpm. With your short shifter, the shift distance is reduced, but you are still moving your hand with the same speed. So the time it takes to get from 1-2 is shortened. When you are going into 2nd, the input shaft would be at around 3500-4000rpm (depending on your shifting style), so the synchros would have to reduce the input shaft rpm to match the transmission rpm.

As times goes by, the 1-2 shifts won't become smoother as when synchros wear, shift quality becomes notchy. The 2nd gear synchro is the one that takes the most wear. So when you shift 1st to 2nd, let it have a little more time in neutral before you pull it into 2nd.



I also noted that the gearknob on my '05 doesnt have a lock nut on the bottom.What it does have is a very tight plasic bush that requires a fair bit of effort to unscrew initially,but i noticed that it was a lot easier to screw back on and also allowed me to screw the knob back on further.This is a mixed blessing in that as you shorten the stick it makes the throws seem even shorter, but it requires even more effort to change gears,BUT, now that ive screwed it down so far, when i unscrew it a little to lengthen the stick the knob is too loose and twists.Unfortunately the knob design doesnt seem to allow the fitment of a locknut.Need to investigate this further.
Do you have a pic of your gearknob? Is it the standard Euro one or did you replace it?

[avid]

Thanks for that advice Aaronng,i will give the slower shifts a try.Mabye i'm just getting used to it,or its my imagination,but it seeemed easier to change gears today.
I will try and get a pic of the 05 gear knob posted up(mine is the standard knob that comes with the car from new).

[aaronng]

Ahh, the standard knob. My standard knob had a plastic clip instead of a lock nut. That white clip which is ziptied to the shift boot also helps keep the knob centered. It could also be a self tapping thread where the plastic in the knob is tapped as you tighten it down.

[maestro]

so just to clear this up, this auxilary port is the same as the lighter port? does this mean you can charge your phone and stuff with it? and also, mine came with the port where it has the USB end to it, does this mean i can play music through an MP3 player? or do i have to get xcarlink for any of that? (im assuming that i need to purchase something to plug my ipod into...)

[d_evilz]

Where is the fuse located for this?
going insane since i cant find it.