DC2R.. How much does yours cost to run?

[misterpoh]

Just brought a ITR.

Full tank runs me 380kms (Occasional Rev head)

Grandma styles runs me 410kms.

How much does it cost to run your ITR? (Fuel)

No Mods.

[Slow96GSR]

No mods I got about 30 miles to the gallon after I rebuilt her the first time. Ran better then new. With mods I get 30 gallons to the mile!! Not really, it's down to 15/20 mpg on low boost and mapped for racing runs 10/12 mpg $3.19USD / Gallon, and race fuel is about the same. We get it cheap, we buy it by the drum and the station is a sponsor.

[misterpoh]

Geez, I better place my seats further back so my feet just touches the pedal.. With the increasing petrol prices around, I should have brought a Honda City or something (",)V Its costing a fortune to run a car in vtec.

[vtml]

I get the same as you and my car has quite a few mods.

[Lepperfish]

IF you can afford a type R does the petrol price really matter?
You bought a performance car, with great fuel enconomy anyway.

[misterpoh]

IF you can afford a type R does the petrol price really matter?
You bought a performance car, with great fuel enconomy anyway.

Of course i know that.. Petrol does matter to many ppl out there as money dont fall from the skies and grow on trees.

Every dollar saved is a dollar earned. I earned this car from saving properly.

Please keep this tread as constructive as possible.

My intention of this tread is to find out the health of my vehicle as it does drink more than the stock ITR.

So to answer your question. Petrol price does matter and also the consumption of my ITR compared to others, matters too.

[EK4R]

well i dont owen a ITR but i have a b18c7 and it drinks bout 350 tank . 35L tank in my civic. its just under 10L/tank for me. but i guess i have a lighter car?

[shebangs]

Wow, my 38L on my B18C gives me 450KG to an empty tank. 500KM easy if I drive like a grandma, 300KM on the equivalent of a track day. The 450KM I usually get is roughly 20% spirited driving.

[string]

I'm under the impression that an EK civic is heavier than a Type-R Integra.

[EK4R]

duno. could be.

[1900-hustler]

Wow, my 38L on my B18C gives me 450KG to an empty tank. 500KM easy if I drive like a grandma, 300KM on the equivalent of a track day. The 450KM I usually get is roughly 20% spirited driving.


yep i get about the same as this.. mines stock as it comes..

[Da1nONLY]

Whenever i fill up... i average about 43 litres....and this takes me 500-550Km which includes the occasional spirited driving.

[destrukshn]

Whenever i fill up... i average about 43 litres....and this takes me 500-550Km which includes the occasional spirited driving.
from that info.. i'd say, your not driving it like it's supposed to be driven.
lol.

[Felix]

Its costing a fortune to run a car in vtec.

umm this doesnt make much sense. VTEC doesn't really use much extra fuel as compared to a non vtec car....

[Jomsy]

I could push for 500kms/tank, but thats ultra granny driving, 600kms on a long trip(ie sydney to canberra) now its modded forget about it, 300 if im lucky, love that Vtec sound

[macoman69]

Pretty funny (I actually drove my car with a lot of vtec but on long winding roads and got some of the best fuel economy ive ever got before (450km)

Maybe VTEC improves your fuel economy lol

[Zilli]

the most ove every gott out of my stick r is 445, and that was on the way to canberra and back, driving around sydney, i get about 320 to 350, of course i forgotten how it feels because im unlicensed anyways

[Zilli]

umm this doesnt make much sense. VTEC doesn't really use much extra fuel as compared to a non vtec car....


dont you think so? its running on a longer duration cam, meaning its taking more air fuel mixture... that means more fuel use to me

[string]

dont you think so? its running on a longer duration cam, meaning its taking more air fuel mixture... that means more fuel use to me
It's all a relative measure. Just because you're on vtec doesn't mean that you're going to be using "more fuel" than if you weren't "on vtec". A non-VTEC engine producing similar torque at similar V.E. will be sucking in the same ammount of "air" therefore assuming correct tuning, will be sucking down the same ammount of fuel.

In the end, fuel consumption closly follows torque, and VTEC is honda's way of extending good V.E. up high in the rev range.

Also be careful thinking that longer duration == more air/fuel... Generalisations are bad mkay...

[misterpoh]

It's all a relative measure. Just because you're on vtec doesn't mean that you're going to be using "more fuel" than if you weren't "on vtec". A non-VTEC engine producing similar torque at similar V.E. will be sucking in the same ammount of "air" therefore assuming correct tuning, will be sucking down the same ammount of fuel.

In the end, fuel consumption closly follows torque, and VTEC is honda's way of extending good V.E. up high in the rev range.

Also be careful thinking that longer duration == more air/fuel... Generalisations are bad mkay...

We all learn something new everyday.. I guess my car is about average in the sense of mileage.. :)

[Felix]

dont you think so? its running on a longer duration cam, meaning its taking more air fuel mixture... that means more fuel use to me

NO.

I think "string" nailed this one.

[VTECACCORD]

who cares about petrol consumption, insurance is the killer.

Thats my biggest expense.

[misterpoh]

who cares about petrol consumption, insurance is the killer.

Thats my biggest expense.

Completely out of point !

[misterpoh]

Whenever i fill up... i average about 43 litres....and this takes me 500-550Km which includes the occasional spirited driving.

Geez, thats alot of mileage. How do you achieve those ks?

I usually shift at around 4,000rpm.

[VTECACCORD]

ut of point ?

Do u not consider rego/ insurance to be a running cost ? It costs your more per month than fuel does.

Other than that Type R doesn't really cost anymore to run than a civic or regular integra. unless you blow the motor.

[misterpoh]

ut of point ?

Do u not consider rego/ insurance to be a running cost ? It costs your more per month than fuel does.

Other than that Type R doesn't really cost anymore to run than a civic or regular integra. unless you blow the motor.


We are all in the discussion on petrol and you come out with insurance and what have u.

Nevertheless, you are right.. It does costs more money..

"Type R doesnt cost anymore to run than a civic?" Umm.. Will go and do some researching on that.. :)

Perhaps you maybe right.

Thanks for your feedback.

[1900-hustler]

ut of point ?

Do u not consider rego/ insurance to be a running cost ? It costs your more per month than fuel does.

Other than that Type R doesn't really cost anymore to run than a civic or regular integra. unless you blow the motor.


ur title asks how much does urs cost to run.. insurance ctp rego etc all are a cost to running ur car..not to mention the fact that u have to service the car things that u HAVE to do..

on top of that the things you would LIKE to do.. which includes washing teh car... buying the product.s. modifying etc etc. it all comes as a cost and comes under the 'running' of a car..

VTECACCORD has made a point.. jus because everyone is talkin about petrol cost doesnt mean the things that he has said is out of point.. as a threadstater u wernt specific in wat u wanted.. ie milage from a fuel tank.. vtecaccord has gone 1 step more and added insurance premiums etc etc..

FUEL CONSUMPTION is all dependent on how u drive. theres no point putting how much u get out of the 35L or so from a DC2R tank.. its better to put xL/100km as then u can compare to each other better.. as i said before i can get upto 500km/40L which is about 8L/100km , but usually i get 9-10L/100km.. haha (around 400-450km/tank)

petrol isnt the only cost in running a car.. unless u got ur parents payin for insurance etc.. some of us pay for everything to do wit the car.. n wen u really think about it . cars really suck the life outta the wallet..

but i love my car.. so i dont care hahaha

cheers
gary

[misterpoh]

Well said.. :thumbsup:

And yes, I am the tread starter. I started with talks on fuel.

Doesnt take much more than a fish to figure out where the tread is going.

But thanks for the feedback :thumbsup:


I will keep in mind to post with more details in future.. :cool:

[DSNTGR8]

tops i get 410 k's. Im usually around the 380-390 mark each week. Ive got a bad lead foot, lol

[Chronos]

10L per 100km
combination driving.

NRMA takes $1600 every year to protect her.

[ewendc2r]

Update - Just had my car fixed.

A universal 02 Sensor was fitted at a much reduced cost (Belive it was a Ford Falcon actually) and now I get 500kms with a few vtecs here and there and perhaps a spirited run.. I am positive if all highway driving I could pip 600-650 :)

STOKED :)

Also had all valve clearances re-adjusted (all were way out) and it made a big difference to noise, top end power and seems to have also made the engine more responsive.

[misterpoh]

Update - Just had my car fixed.

A universal 02 Sensor was fitted at a much reduced cost (Belive it was a Ford Falcon actually) and now I get 500kms with a few vtecs here and there and perhaps a spirited run.. I am positive if all highway driving I could pip 600-650 :)

STOKED :)

Also had all valve clearances re-adjusted (all were way out) and it made a big difference to noise, top end power and seems to have also made the engine more responsive.

how true is this? can someone please verify. :D
not that im doubting u ewendc2r.. Just that if its true, i will try it on my car :D

[Felix]

I dont know what you guys are talking about. I can easily get 600kms out of a tank on my DC2 VTIR... This is if i drive normal for the tank... And this is untill my petrol lights been on for awhile.

[PaZzMaN-R]

I dont know what you guys are talking about. I can easily get 600kms out of a tank on my DC2 VTIR... This is if i drive normal for the tank... And this is untill my petrol lights been on for awhile.

we talking about type r not vti-r sorry to burst ur bubble dude.

i get 10L/100km in stock form. its the stop start traffic which kills ur consumption unless you granny shifting at 3000rpm:)

[integrity]

lolz
my old teg does 210 to the tank which is 50 litres.
cause it was turbo!!!

[Da1nONLY]

Geez, thats alot of mileage. How do you achieve those ks?

I usually shift at around 4,000rpm.

yups!! i usually shift around 3800 - 4000rpm as well...

[Da1nONLY]

from that info.. i'd say, your not driving it like it's supposed to be driven.
lol.


:)...
oh you havent been in my car with me yet :p

lol

[bungsai]

550-600 on my 99 VTi-R...

Didnt realize there was such a difference with the R and the VTi-R...

what do you think causes this? The R is lighter, but has slightly shorter gear ratios? Has a better flowing exhaust?

Vtir has lower compression, but it is heavier?

[Astro]

can someone confirm how big the petrol tank is in the dc2r..

is it 45L? or 50L?

Thanks

[Felix]

we talking about type r not vti-r sorry to burst ur bubble dude.



umm dah!

fock i'm sorry for posting the economy of my VTIR. GET OVER IT!

[Professional]

45L in


can someone confirm how big the petrol tank is in the dc2r..

is it 45L? or 50L?

Thanks

[Professional]

45L in the dc2r


can someone confirm how big the petrol tank is in the dc2r..

is it 45L? or 50L?

Thanks

[Da1nONLY]

45L in the dc2r

I'm sure it s a 50L as ive filled up 46L once....

[Felix]

I thourght VTIR and Type R DC2 has 45l.

[VTECACCORD]

if u filled up to 46l u most likely got ripped off by the petrol station

[Da1nONLY]

if u filled up to 46l u most likely got ripped off by the petrol station


damn it!!
blardi bass hill shell!!

[misterpoh]

Seriously, petrol these days are absolute killers. A few dollars here and there, in a year, thats a few hundred. Oh well.. ITR for Sale.. Anyone ??? :P

[bungsai]

I'm sure it s a 50L as ive filled up 46L once....

not sure about if it is 45 or 50...but keep in mind the piping and stuff, there is probably a litre or so in there...just a thought?

[string]

Well I don't own one but I'm going to put my money on 50L... It's tough to put 46L into a 45L tank :D
(Plus numerous sites and forums agree)

Also, it seems that all other Integra's share the same capacity (discount dc5's, they aren't real integras... mcpherson..pfft)

[ewendc2r]

Felix -- It is a Universal 4 Wire 02 Sensor - 100% Sure and it was CHEAP compared to Honda parts thats for sure. They had to make an adapter for the plug about $20 but they said it was a Ford Falcon one (Different shape inside, but same job etc)

[yourfather]

I pay 900 for insurance
it's a 50l tank
get about 400km per tank, only take it down to 1/4 full - then I refill - so, im only filling up about 35 litres
drove from Murray Bridge SA to Vermont South VIC without having to refuel. Although it was very empty, still made it about 670km's. Spent the whole time sitting behind a massive b double.

[stoodamire]

Mine does about 350 with a lot of spirited driving...

it sux going on a freeway idling @ 4k

[yourfather]

you don't really "idle" at 4k

[Coponeinthenuts]

Drivin with a lead foot I get bout 350km for a full tank b4 the light comes on, if i drive basically in neutral the whole time i make between 450-500km off a full tank

[string]

Drivin with a lead foot I get bout 350km for a full tank b4 the light comes on, if i drive basically in neutral the whole time i make between 450-500km off a full tank
Wow, you sit in neutral and still get reasonable economy.
I suggest you catch the bus; else keep it in gear.

[1900-hustler]

i thought puttin the car back into neutral u will end up using more fuel then leavin it in gear.. ? lol.. unless ur goin down a never ending hill from A to B..

[Coponeinthenuts]

hey remember it's not how fast your going that uses fuel, it's how hard your engine is workin.

If your in neutral your reving to bout 1,000 usually,
wen you push the nuts out of it it's revin to the redline of 8,400 now more revs mean more fuel used faster, and oposite less revs equals less fuel being used.

So after that little speech string:

Wow, you sit in neutral and still get reasonable economy.
I suggest you catch the bus; else keep it in gear.

use your head and find out how a car engine works

[Malenic1981]

I get 410-420 on a tank and that is just before the fuel light goes on, that is my normal driving which includes some granny and some spirited driving. If I go full on spirited driving (cruises ect) I get around 360-370, with full on granny driving I can get 500.

By the way it's DC2R with air intake, 4-1 headers and 2.5" custom catback, car has just under 50000km done so yeah.

[wlan-11g]

hey remember it's not how fast your going that uses fuel, it's how hard your engine is workin.

If your in neutral your reving to bout 1,000 usually,
wen you push the nuts out of it it's revin to the redline of 8,400 now more revs mean more fuel used faster, and oposite less revs equals less fuel being used.

So after that little speech string:


use your head and find out how a car engine works

I think what he was refering to was the fact that unless its constantly downhill, you'd get better economy if you leave it in gear and lightly on the gas rather than going from neutral back into gear to get back up to speed (accelerating / decelerating).

[string]

Close above.. Down-hill you'd benefit even more. Low vacuum (less than idle) has very low injector pulse width, far less than at idle. You get the added bonus of not having to brake as much too, plus being in control.

Don't tell me to "find out how a car works"; I'm quite sure I have a pretty good idea. You look especially stupid explaining fuel consumption only refering to rpm.

[ewendc2r]

bahahaha .. idiot.

nice string :P

[Mr_will]

So after that little speech string:


use your head and find out how a car engine works


you are the one who needs to find out how a car works. being in gear, even at, say, 4000rpm, going downhill with no throttle pressure will use less fuel than being at idle, somewhere around 750rpm due to the reason string has explained - vacuum pressure