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ShAwNeX
29-08-2006, 12:46 PM
Anybody know what's going on with the future of S2000? Is it gonna be replaced by the XGA?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/ef0ne2/d123fc15.jpg

Which one do you prefer?

http://www.mugen-power.com/street/s2000/img/wp/02_wp800.jpg

RyDC5S
29-08-2006, 01:20 PM
I've read somewhere Honda JP was to bring out the new Prelude AWD model in 08 (3.0L V6 with VTEC) with some enhancements from the Honda Legend.

I think S2K is not going to have a replacement. Would be fantastic though mind you.

ShAwNeX
29-08-2006, 01:27 PM
These are the things that I have read about the XGA.

Either V8 or V10 VTEC

2 door or 4 door

Roof

SH-AWD system

And it may replace the S2000 or NSX or maybe a new model that would fit in between the S2000 and NSX. It may also go head-to-head with the Nissan Skyline GT-R

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/519/Honda_NSX_GT_by_elusive.JPG

integraz
29-08-2006, 04:46 PM
mmmm a v8 engine with vtec

chicken8
29-08-2006, 05:02 PM
i thought the XGA was an april fools joke

the real replacement is the HSC?

ShAwNeX
29-08-2006, 05:24 PM
I thought it was the otherway round.

But if anything, you'd think that the HSC would be a replacement for the NSX only.
It even kind of looks like the NSX

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/hondahsc03.jpg http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/hondahsc03_04.jpg

ZeForce
29-08-2006, 05:58 PM
The XGA has a similar shape to the Nissan 350Z...

aaronng
29-08-2006, 06:54 PM
XGA was an april fool's joke. HSC was meant to be the NSX's replacement, but no idea now. 2008 TSX is supposed to be a 2 door coupe with SH-AWD. Engine, unknown. Either V6 or k23a turbo.

chicken8
29-08-2006, 10:22 PM
thank you aaron

im never sure until u say its true/false

i heard the HSC was meant to be a replacement for both the s2000 and the NSX as its priced in between the two

timofytit
29-08-2006, 11:24 PM
V8 VTEC YO! Hold on to my......

WhiteAP1
30-08-2006, 01:39 AM
Man that thing us ugly, I can see it being badged as an acura, yanks will love it. I doubt, what ever model the above picture may be, its not the s2000's replacement.

replicah
30-08-2006, 09:10 AM
damn that new nsx is HOT!!

and i hope they never put a V8 in anything s2000 related.. would be the end of my honda love

CONAN
30-08-2006, 10:32 AM
reminds me of that chrysler car

ludecrs
30-08-2006, 11:52 AM
FirePower Concept?

aaronng
30-08-2006, 12:15 PM
Looks like a Crossfire.

DreadAngel
30-08-2006, 05:27 PM
It does doesn't it?

S2000 won't have a replacement...

The HSC should be the successor to the NSX, if it does, I hope its reasonably priced with an even more kickass engine to give those Europeans a kick in the @$$

Mikeyas
30-08-2006, 06:33 PM
IM sorry all. but looks more like an rx8...
A v8 honda engine isnt a bad thing... think f1 engine....detuned... hopefully 15,000 rpm hahahaha

crazy_legs
30-08-2006, 10:10 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/0024.jpg

This is what the concept s2000 will be like.
The "XGA" was a concept car in 2005

aaronng
30-08-2006, 10:28 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/0024.jpg

This is what the concept s2000 will be like.
The "XGA" was a concept car in 2005
The pic of the car that they call the "XGA" is actually the Sports4. It has SH-AWD and was meant to be a coupe and does not replace the S2000. http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2005/sports4/

The concept pic above though was designed by the Art Center College of Design and the College for Creative Studies to be an S2000 concept. I think it's like the Toyota Sportivo that was designed by the art students. Looks too extreme to be the next S2000 though:

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/0026-1.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/0023-1.jpg

DreadAngel
30-08-2006, 10:31 PM
I like it though, full hecktic!!!

preludacris
31-08-2006, 01:07 AM
yeah

that first pic is fo real . the sports4. i heard rumours , that it could be the 6th generation prelude.

i dunno anything about the xga. but yeah that 4wd honda is a concept on the honda site! and yes the post above shows the link.

crazy_legs
31-08-2006, 08:32 AM
The second pic in aaronng is not the same as the others. you can see the slight differences. ie Windscreen, Bonnet, Nose etc

The other car is in the background

ShAwNeX
31-08-2006, 01:46 PM
Yeah I agree with you Aaronng

There's no way Honda is gonna manufacture that concept.

It's just for show.

But it would be nice though, if it were to be mass produced.

TECBOY
31-08-2006, 02:21 PM
yes im also against v8...
no need if u have the vtec power yo.
anyway i think the s2000 is getting replaced by some sort of WRX based look alike

aaronng
31-08-2006, 03:00 PM
The second pic in aaronng is not the same as the others. you can see the slight differences. ie Windscreen, Bonnet, Nose etc

The other car is in the background
Ahhh. I see! You're right. They are 2 different cars!

ROLLED
31-08-2006, 04:55 PM
yes im also against v8...
no need if u have the vtec power yo.
anyway i think the s2000 is getting replaced by some sort of WRX based look alike

so Honda is going to change it's 2 door, 2 seat, convertible, RWD car into a 4 door, 5 seat, 4WD, Sedan are they? I don't know about you but the WRX looks like a sedan to me and the s2000 looks like a roadster...please explain yourself.

ShAwNeX
31-08-2006, 05:41 PM
so Honda is going to change it's 2 door, 2 seat, convertible, RWD car into a 4 door, 5 seat, 4WD, Sedan are they? I don't know about you but the WRX looks like a sedan to me and the s2000 looks like a roadster...please explain yourself.


I agree with you ROLLED.

But on the other-hand, if you look at all of the new cars that Honda is bringing out (like the new Legend) and all of their concept cars, they all seem to have Honda's SH-AWD system. But other than that, I really don't think they will change the S2000 to a 4 door, 5 seater sedan, otherwise it's just not a S2000.



Originally Posted by TECBOY
yes im also against v8...
no need if u have the vtec power yo.
anyway i think the s2000 is getting replaced by some sort of WRX based look alike

ALSO I wanna know, what's wrong with a V8? I'm not disagreeing with you, because there's nothing wrong with building one of the most powerful naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines, but I just wanna know why, cause I've heard and this kind of comment many times?

aaronng
31-08-2006, 05:47 PM
I agree with you ROLLED.

But on the other-hand, if you look at all of the new cars that Honda is bringing out (like the new Legend) and all of their concept cars, they all seem to have Honda's SH-AWD system.
For 8 years, Honda only had the NSX and Beat as rear wheel drive vehicles. Every car made in those 8 years were FWD and hardtop. Then Honda revived the open top roadster with the unthinkable 120hp/L rwd S2000 roadster. So if they want to make the S2000's successor also a RWD open top 2 seater, they can. Nothing's stopping them. You only need SH-AWD if your vehicle is a FWD or has too much torque.

Pumped
31-08-2006, 06:00 PM
yes im also against v8...
no need if u have the vtec power yo.


i guess you cant torque from experience ;)

91'lude
31-08-2006, 08:18 PM
Wheels this month, reported the new NSX, will be lower priced. Front engine, 4WD, v10...

Malenic1981
31-08-2006, 08:46 PM
I think that there will be some sort of coupe to replace integra (maybe TSX/euro coupe) plus civic type R, plus all new S2000 model which could be a V6 so it can go head to head with bigger boyz and at the end new NSX with V10.

Zilli
31-08-2006, 09:34 PM
I thought it was the otherway round.

But if anything, you'd think that the HSC would be a replacement for the NSX only.
It even kind of looks like the NSX

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/hondahsc03.jpg http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/hondahsc03_04.jpg


that is such a beautiful vehicle

WhiteAP1
01-09-2006, 12:33 AM
The s2000 will simply drop off, and that will be the end of it. Honda may make a replacement to fill its void in its sports car range,but most likley it will be a totally different platfrom.

Have a look at the current or even preivious sales stats of the s2000. I think they had a spike recently,TWO in one month nation wide. Now if stats are telling Honda, that a race inspired, two seater convertible, isn't selling, why would they pour billions into developing another. Call me crazy but they might just change their game plan this time.

Also this has been covered before http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45434

aaronng
01-09-2006, 12:51 AM
The s2000 will simply drop off, and that will be the end of it. Honda may make a replacement to fill its void in its sports car range,but most likley it will be a totally different platfrom.

Have a look at the current or even preivious sales stats of the s2000. I think they had a spike recently,TWO in one month nation wide. Now if stats are telling Honda, that a race inspired, two seater convertible, isn't selling, why would they pour billions into developing another. Call me crazy but they might just change their game plan this time.

Also this has been covered before http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45434
It's probably because the S2000 is 7 years old now. Its competitors, the SLK230 and Z3 have already undergone a model change. The S2000 is still the same platform as back in 1999. Same like the MX-5, they were not selling well. So Mazda came out with the SP, and then the SE. Then they realised it is time for a refresh as no amount of minor upgrades would push the numbers up. Not even the SE's turbo.

WhiteAP1
01-09-2006, 02:02 AM
It's probably because the S2000 is 7 years old now. Its competitors, the SLK230 and Z3 have already undergone a model change. The S2000 is still the same platform as back in 1999. Same like the MX-5, they were not selling well. So Mazda came out with the SP, and then the SE. Then they realised it is time for a refresh as no amount of minor upgrades would push the numbers up. Not even the SE's turbo.


The MX5 is a little different. Its alot cheaper and alot more popular. Its had many changes spaning decades, and with time, has developed a place in the market. The same S2000 has been avaiable for 7 years. If u didnt like it in '00 chances are same will apply today. Atleast the MX5 gave the public some variety and a chance to perhaps like it. Also look at the progress of the Boxter. It use to get owned by the S2000 now its out of its league.

The S2000 has not only kept the same platform, its really stayed the same. I admit that later models refined inperfections and faults common with earlier models, but in regards to taking the car to the next step, we saw nothing of the sort. Apart from the US and later JDM 2.2 that was it. If it was deemed that Australia didnt recive the engine upgrade, then i guess Honda didnt think that "saving" the AU S2000 market was worth it. So even if there is an S2000 sucsessor (For which, i'll gladly bet my left nut that there wont) we wont see it here.

aaronng
01-09-2006, 02:22 AM
So even if there is an S2000 sucsessor (For which, i'll gladly bet my left nut that there wont) we wont see it here.
Sad to say this, but given Honda Australia's recent culling of the sportier models off the lineup, I'd have to agree. :(

s2o0o
01-09-2006, 02:06 PM
The XGA was a joke :( It had me worried. *shakes fist at S2KI*...

I prefer the AP2.

WhiteAP1
01-09-2006, 03:47 PM
I think ure refering to this

http://www.s2ki.com/Home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=252&Itemid=6


NOTE: THIS IS A LINK TO THE XGA HOAX. THE ABOVE IS AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE, IT IS NOT REAL IN ANY WAY.

hondaboy
11-09-2006, 11:57 AM
So, when will the XGA be on sale in Australia? Wouldn't mind upgrading.

WhiteAP1
11-09-2006, 12:28 PM
LOL, Ive got one on order, its comming next week, they even said they'd throw in some magic beans. I'll let u know. ;)

s2o0o
13-09-2006, 11:48 AM
So, when will the XGA be on sale in Australia? Wouldn't mind upgrading.

No Igs. No.