Pivot Raizin stabilizer installed!

[curik]

Hi I just installed a voltage stabilizer by pivot raizin. But I couldnt notice any difference at all. And with all the remaining ground wires, should I connect them up? Has anyone done this to a euro before?

[TypeG]

for a perfect built car like Euro, u may not feel the different (plus it need to works with ground kit I think) as I felt the diff on my Jazz but not on my Euro.


Hi I just installed a voltage stabilizer by pivot raizin. But I couldnt notice any difference at all. And with all the remaining ground wires, should I connect them up? Has anyone done this to a euro before?

[curik]

so you have installed a raizin on your euro? My stereo is weird, i have a static noise when the volume is 1 or above. I replaced the speakers and installed the plug in ipod aux.

[stephen8512]

ive got the pivot on my euro too but i cant feel sht.....if there is any difference, its very un-noticeable.....

[aaronng]

Hi I just installed a voltage stabilizer by pivot raizin. But I couldnt notice any difference at all. And with all the remaining ground wires, should I connect them up? Has anyone done this to a euro before?
One ground to the driver's side engine mount, one to the passenger's side gearbox, one ground to the chassis on the passenger side front where it replaces the stock ground. I also grounded the alternator and the sensor ground underneath the plastic cover. BTW, my ground kit cost $45. 4 gauge cable as well! Yours is 6 or 8 gauge.

There is no change in performance with the grounding kit.
After I grounded the alternator, I found that warm starting was easier.

[enkay]

since u cant feel any diffrence.. wat does this realy do? and is it useful?

[aaronng]

so you have installed a raizin on your euro? My stereo is weird, i have a static noise when the volume is 1 or above. I replaced the speakers and installed the plug in ipod aux.
Did you have static before or after the pivot raizin installation? If you added grounds, you have to remove the existing grounds first. If you have multiple grounds, you will get a ground loop that will carry current and cause static.

[curik]

cat with evil smile, do you have any issues with a slight static noise on the stereo? Mine has 5 grounding wires. I only use one cable to the passenger side front. BTW the static noise is before the pivot install.

[aaronng]

cat with evil smile, do you have any issues with a slight static noise on the stereo? Mine has 5 grounding wires. I only use one cable to the passenger side front.
Zero static issues. But I don't have an ipod adapter. I recommend you trace the Euro's headunit ground and ground that to the negative terminal. See if that fixes your static.

And remember, if you are grounding a component with an existing ground, always remove the old one.

Edit: BTW, who soldered your ground wires to your speakers? They might have done it badly and resulted in a cold solder.

[curik]

I got audioFX to install the fronts. How do I ground the negative terminal of the head unit?

So if I installed one to passenger side front, which stock ground cable should I remove?

[euro77]

I used to have one as well, it improves starting the engine when cold. Other than that, I don't think it does anything else. It might reduce static, but I didn't notice any difference with my audio (custom install).

As for grounding points, there's one on the passenger side (engine's grounding), one under the airbox, and I put the other one under the fuse box. This thread might help: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=231308#post231308

[aaronng]

I got audioFX to install the fronts. How do I ground the negative terminal of the head unit?

So if I installed one to passenger side front, which stock ground cable should I remove?
This one circled in yellow:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9315/catakeub9.jpg

[curik]

Ok I will remove that. I'm convinced that I have to ground the head unit to remove the static noise. The ipod aux has a charging function so maybe that causes a ground loop? Or should I install a ground loop isolator?

[aaronng]

Ok I will remove that. I'm convinced that I have to ground the head unit to remove the static noise. The ipod aux has a charging function so maybe that causes a ground loop? Or should I install a ground loop isolator?
Both will work, hopefully. I'd go for the cheaper method.
Do you have a pic of your existing negative terminal to chassis? I'd run a cable from the negative terminal to your capacitor and then from the capacitor to the ground point on the chassis. If it doesn't work, then get a ground loop isolator.

[curik]

could you please elaborate about that capacitor? Which negative terminal and which capacitor?

[aaronng]

could you please elaborate about that capacitor? Which negative terminal and which capacitor?
HUh? Man.... capacitor = Pivot stabilizer. Didn't you know what you just bought and installed?

Negative terminal is the battery post that I circled.

The ipod charger can introduce static noise. Try taking it off and see if it solves the static noise problem.

[curik]

i just removed the ipod aux , and the static is still there. removed ground loop, still no good. so the culprit is now either the front speakers or the honda headunit. I am using focal component 6.5 speakers

[aaronng]

Could be inherent noise in the headunit being more apparent now you have your better speakers. Try a ground filter.

[curik]

how is a ground filter installed?

[aaronng]

In line with the ground wire of your headunit's power supply. Pull out the CD holder section, and inside, there should be a ground wire (full black colour) running from the headunit.There's like 17 cables running off one connector, so you have to find the right cable.

[curik]

lol! the cables from the headunit are so complicated! I dont even know which one it is. BTW, I saw a couple of grounding cables running from the stock engine, so would it just be useless running a new ground then?

[yfin]

That was a nice read Claymore - great work. I am not going to attempt to disprove your essay!

Interesting to note few manufacturers of vehicles offer these stabilisers or grounding kits - it all appears to be an aftermarket phenomenon.

I did notice, however, that Mitsubishi offer a factory ground wiring kit for the Evo IX as an accessory (some $300 or so). Placebo?

http://www.ralliart.com.au/RalliartVehicles/EvolutionIX.aspx?item=3

http://www.ralliart.com.au/images/accessories13.jpg

[stephen8512]

good read, although u might wanna think about punctuation and proper use of commas and stuff.... :D
but all in all, great post. informative. a bit overkill on the topic but definately cleared the air on everything

[aaronng]

Nice Claymore. I didn't think the capacitor did much, so I just did my DIY ground. I did solve my warm starting problems by grounding the alternator. But, our lights still dim for 1 second when the A/C compressor kicks in. I've tested with all lights off except 1 map light, and it still dims! So my alternator can't handle the voltage drop when A/C turns on. Anyway, I'm about to change the battery, so I'll let you all know if a better battery solves the dimming problem.

[curik]

I really see the point. The euro has some grounding wires already so maybe this capacitor will only works on older cars where the stuff inside the engine isnt grounded properly.

[aaronng]

Nope don't you think if they could claim 5-10more kw from these devices they wouldn't slap one on in a heart beat IF THEY GAVE ANY PERFORMANCE GAIN???
Ground kits give zero performance gain. Any gain is imaginary. That's my opinion on it. But it does help non-performance issues like difficulty when warm starting. Why did I make my own ground kit? Not for performance. I did it because I was trying to solve my dimming lights issue (and inadvertantly solved the warm starting issue instead! LOL).

[curik]

Hey white dog, where is the antenna on the euro? I have a feeling something is wrong with my antenna as quite often the radio gets distorted even though I am on an open field. Possibly the antenna touches the body and creates a loop or something?

[euro77]

Hey white dog, where is the antenna on the euro? I have a feeling something is wrong with my antenna as quite often the radio gets distorted even though I am on an open field. Possibly the antenna touches the body and creates a loop or something?
the antenna is built in the rear glass

[aaronng]

Hey white dog, where is the antenna on the euro? I have a feeling something is wrong with my antenna as quite often the radio gets distorted even though I am on an open field. Possibly the antenna touches the body and creates a loop or something?
Not replying because you called me white dog.

[stephen8512]

Not replying because you called me white dog.


LOL
whitedog. shoulda called him yellow dog and he woulda been fine :D hahaha
curik, the antenna is embedded on the rear windshields of our euro's

[curik]

Not replying because you called me white dog.

Lol! How can a cat turned into a dog? I always think cats are cuter than dogs, especially a fluffy one. Anyway, my fm reception sometimes picks up distortion, and sometimes its gone? And there is someone here with an 06 MT who has a similar problem. Also my 3rd brake light rattles when I have too much bass! My car is very troublesome!

[aaronng]

Set your bass to +3? Or are you using +6?

[curik]

currently at +2. THe rattle happens when the 3rd stop lamp banging the rear windscreen

[aaronng]

Update: Changing to a higher rated battery of the same size does not solve the dimming lights issue. I noticed that the dimming is not as bad now. But it is still there. Guess it's the alternator.

[curik]

I dont have any dimming lights issue after using the pivot. are you talking about interior lights or the driving lights? No dimming for the interior lights as well as the HIDs

[euro77]

my headlight dims after I took out my grounding kit, never had this problem when it was installed :(