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civicVI
09-09-2006, 03:20 PM
anyone have use king spring on the EURO? just want to know how low will those on car and have anyone have pic of those spring on car!!!
cheers
mj3610
09-09-2006, 04:05 PM
have some mercy on the car dude...
Euroaccord13 has them - but he swapped to coilovers. He posted them up for sale a month or so ago.
SecaBoy
10-09-2006, 08:54 PM
i have them in my car... just a temporary solution till i get coilovers...
here is a before:
http://www.forghani.net/forum/files/ash_before_137.jpg
and after:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g222/schmavo/cruise%2010%20oct%2006/cruise255.jpg
the only king springs that you can get for a euro is the "lows"... that will only drop your car about 30mm...
its perfect height for what i wanted right now... it still looks 'stock', but if you know cars, then it looks low...
mj3610
10-09-2006, 09:03 PM
its perfect height for what i wanted right now... it still looks 'stock', but if you know cars, then it looks low...
if you know anything about cars u'd know lowering an accord is just silly, why would you wanna ruin that beautiful suspension?
no offense...
curik
10-09-2006, 09:22 PM
All that money you have spent for $40500 and you only want to spend $300 on lowering? It will be similar to eibach prokit drop. But you will be rattling your teeth when it goes over a rough road.
Honda Enthusiast
10-09-2006, 09:24 PM
All that money you have spent for $40500 and you only want to spend $300 on lowering?
not everyone can afford out right.... perhaps the car is on finance and he's trying to save a bit on dumpage.
curik
10-09-2006, 09:46 PM
not everyone can afford out right.... perhaps the car is on finance and he's trying to save a bit on dumpage.
I hope so, but for $1500 you get a very nice coilover with adjustable height and damping. You wont be ruining the stock shocks or the ride quality either. And when you want to sell it there will always be a buyer. You should save up and do it right so you wont regret it after.
mj3610
10-09-2006, 09:59 PM
how are u not ruining the suspension? its pushing it down, unless the shocks are adjustable too then i dont see how its not stuffing up your suspension...
SiReal
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
he stated coilovers. hence a complete replacement. good work secaboy (yep kings arent great but at least u answered the thread)
nick_7g
11-09-2006, 12:54 AM
You should save up and do it right so you wont regret it after.
Nail on the head
if you know anything about cars u'd know lowering an accord is just silly, why would you wanna ruin that beautiful suspension?
no offense...
What is wrong with lowering an accord? Did you know that Honda makes a sports suspension kit for this application that lowers the vehicle? So if Honda do it...
All that money you have spent for $40500 and you only want to spend $300 on lowering? It will be similar to eibach prokit drop. But you will be rattling your teeth when it goes over a rough road.
That is not the experience of people with the ProKit though is it? Did someone say that to you? Most people report that changing springs doesn't significantly change the ride (yes you will feel bumps more but it is liveable).
eg http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16435&highlight=prokit
The problem with springs only is more to do with the life of the shocks. Some people get away with a couple of years - some less. Then they change the shocks. Not the approach I wanted to take as you pay for the labour twice and could end up spending the same as coilovers - but it really isn't a big deal though is it?
aaronng
11-09-2006, 01:11 AM
if you know anything about cars u'd know lowering an accord is just silly, why would you wanna ruin that beautiful suspension?
no offense...
Lower it reasonably with good coilovers, you'll have better handling while not significantly reducing CV joint lifespan.
SecaBoy
11-09-2006, 05:08 PM
thanks SiReal... seems like you are the only person here that read my post properly... if you cant be bothered reading my post, just skip to the big bold letters at the end of this one...
for those that didnt read my post properly, lets try again...
just a temporary solution till i get coilovers...
TEMPORARY being the keyword!!! plan is to get coilovers in the next couple of months...
i picked up the springs for almost nothing at all and i installed them myself... so i dont see anything wrong with that...
yes, the ride is harsher than standard, but i came from a wrx.. and in my rex you could feel the bump when you went over an ant! so its not that bad for me...
mj3610: ummmm... ever heard of anything called personal taste? you may not like it, but i obviously like to have a lowered car... get over it...
curik: "honda enthusiast" got it right... its on finance... it's not that im tight when it comes to spending money... i've spent about 20k on mods on my first car and about 15k on mods on my second car... and i never saw that money again (not that i expected to! haha)... so the amount of money i spend on my cars isnt an issue... i just dont want to spend the money for coilovers straight up when i can get springs first for a couple of months...
so in conclusion:
THE KING SPRINGS ARE JUST A TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL I FIND THE RIGHT COILOVERS THAT SUIT MY NEEDS... UNTIL THEN THE SPRINGS ACHEIVE THE PURPOSE OF GETTING THAT LOWERED LOOK...
Ferrarista
11-09-2006, 06:05 PM
I have Kmac springs on my car and its fine
Once i need to replace the shocks i'll get coil overs, till then im fine.
I'm abit of a speed limit junkie
Slugoid
11-09-2006, 06:23 PM
Nothing wrong with King Springs, nothing wrong with lowering a car, as long as you do it right ;) . I have King Springs and Koni adjustable shocks in my MX5 and the overall setup is quite good. Kings does have a higher rate compared to other springs (like Eibach and Whiteline) but still liveable on the road. Matched with Koni's, the car doesn't bounce or scrape everywhere even when it's lowered.
On the other hand, lowered springs and stock shocks is ok, but I wouldn't recommend it, having experienced it first hand on a Euro with Eibach and stock shocks. After a year or so you will notice a bit of sagging and does reduced the life of the shocks. As a result, your car will be bouncing all over the place and killing the stock bumpstops.
Most people will recommend coilovers, BUT I wouldn't say coilovers are the best solution in all cases. A lot of them have spring rates not really suitable for aussie roads, especially the Japanese ones. You may be ok with stuff like Tien SS, which is made for street use, but once you go higher towards the sports and racing coilovers (Tien Flex for example) it does start to compromise the ride quality.
Best solution? Do some research, find a spring rate that's good for aussie roads and match it with good adjustable shocks. Coilovers are good too, but check on the spring rate before you buy them.
tony1234
11-09-2006, 07:15 PM
anyone have use king spring on the EURO? just want to know how low will those on car and have anyone have pic of those spring on car!!!
cheers
I've got Eibachs on mine(with Bilstein shocks).Past exp.with kings,seem theyr'e not as
'progressive" as the Eibachs.Both drop thr car approx.35mm.
tony1234
11-09-2006, 07:17 PM
Nothing wrong with King Springs, nothing wrong with lowering a car, as long as you do it right ;) . I have King Springs and Koni adjustable shocks in my MX5 and the overall setup is quite good. Kings does have a higher rate compared to other springs (like Eibach and Whiteline) but still liveable on the road. Matched with Koni's, the car doesn't bounce or scrape everywhere even when it's lowered.
On the other hand, lowered springs and stock shocks is ok, but I wouldn't recommend it, having experienced it first hand on a Euro with Eibach and stock shocks. After a year or so you will notice a bit of sagging and does reduced the life of the shocks. As a result, your car will be bouncing all over the place and killing the stock bumpstops.
Most people will recommend coilovers, BUT I wouldn't say coilovers are the best solution in all cases. A lot of them have spring rates not really suitable for aussie roads, especially the Japanese ones. You may be ok with stuff like Tien SS, which is made for street use, but once you go higher towards the sports and racing coilovers (Tien Flex for example) it does start to compromise the ride quality.
Best solution? Do some research, find a spring rate that's good for aussie roads and match it with good adjustable shocks. Coilovers are good too, but check on the spring rate before you buy them.
Slugoid has pretty well covered your question.:cool:
TypeG
11-09-2006, 07:22 PM
just do it right at the first time
petsfact
11-09-2006, 11:27 PM
which product gives better/firmer handling than oem suspension but not taking away the comfort?
i sat in a euro with a set of D1000 [??] suspension it's so much nicer and not give you that "floating" weird feeling, sharp steering response but not too rough on tram line......
any idea?
tony1234
12-09-2006, 07:53 AM
which product gives better/firmer handling than oem suspension but not taking away the comfort?
i sat in a euro with a set of D1000 [??] suspension it's so much nicer and not give you that "floating" weird feeling, sharp steering response but not too rough on tram line......
any idea?
I've got
Eibachs with Bilstein shocks.I think it's the best setup for the street(since we have such crap roads in Sydney!!!)D1000??? must be a part no.Anyone else have an opinion on this?
SiReal
12-09-2006, 10:01 AM
Atjo has D2 coilovers, maybe u can PM him for some info. They cost $1400ish.
TypeG
12-09-2006, 11:55 AM
get Tein SS
it is as comfort as stock suspension
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