b18cR dyno'ed

[fatboyz39]

- Stock b18c R with stock headers
- Hondata s200
- Top fuel exhaust system
- Home made intake
- Tuner DynoDave

Power Output 117kw ATW

What do u guys think?

[eG_YoDa]

is that in third gear or fourth gear?

[xtercii]

it probably pays to invest in a good intake and header. my jap spec b18cr with spoon exhaust and injen cai and nothing else pulled 117kw on dynodave's 2 weeks ago.

[bennjamin]

stock C7's put around 100-110kw to the wheels from past viewings ~
all those mods equate to another 15ish KW atw ? Hows the torque ? pix of dyno graph please :)

[eG_YoDa]

mine 96 jap spec type R pulled 117 in third with nothing but a drity k & n filter at ghraham west dyno done by brett

[xtercii]

well you can't really compare dyno figures when it's done at a different shop and a different state.

[eG_YoDa]

just throwing figures out there man, to hopefully get a better idea of things
doesn't mean i can't add my 2 cents if i'm in a differnet state
no need to shoot neone down

[wynode]

What do u guys think?

How long is a piece of string? I honestly don't see the point of this thread as there is no other info such as the dyno type, before vs after run, what has been done exactly to the car and so on.

[xtercii]

I don't waste my amos on net soldiers...

[eG_YoDa]

I don't waste my amos on net soldiers...

wtf is that spose to mean?
if you have nothing to contribute please don't post useless crap

[mr crex]

my stock TypeR ran 111kw at graham west.

the funny thing was, we tried these jap "performance" 5-core ignition leads that came with the car and it ran 109kw lol

[phantom_civic]

Good numbers.

[fatboyz39]

Guys, it was done on 4th gear

Dyn'ed at Insight motorsport Dyno Dynamics

All the mods were as listed....

Will get graphs wen its get the full tune.... there is more power in this motor:)

[barefootbonzai]

If them figures where untuned, i reckon it's a quite a decent number. Guess we wait and see what the tune does.

[xtercii]

wtf is that spose to mean?
if you have nothing to contribute please don't post useless crap

how the f uck are u contributing and giving ppl a better idea of things when u posting ur dyno figure from a different shop and a different place? I am only posting my figure cos I did my dyno at the same shop. don't tell me to stop posting stuff when u were first one to post up misleading, meaningless and irrelevant info.

[ginganggooly]

ahh... the ozhonda house of love.

fatboyz car yielded a very good result on that dyno IMO. The graph had a nice FAT mid range, and the car sounded very healthy. My guess is it'll make another 15kw at the wheels with the right header, intake and some tuning. Thats a pretty healthy motor.

xtercii's motor on the other hand is a freak :D
be interesting to see that motor with a little work done to it.

[sydteg21]

JDM freak, haha, i hope mine is the same.

[JohnnyVtec]

Nice Work M8!!!
Good Power run #'s it's always inspiring to see someone who's got that VTEC Passion! i'm going in on friday to base run my little red monsta. i reckon next week or the week after i'll have all my bolt on's installed and will hopefully have an interesting comparrison.

Cheers,:thumbsup:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

nice numbers from just a type r motor lol

[kayot1k]

heheh net soilders.

i think 110kwatw is plenty for teggy/civic. enough to keep up with the big boys

on the otherhand my mates brothers fully stock itr did 100kwatws 4th gear dynodynamics.
with a full exhaust and cai he will surely do alot more.

engines gets slower with age, no biggie

[DynoDave]

engines gets slower with age, no biggie
Thats funny I will tell the owner of the VtiR Integra we just did a head on and it made 121kw with a bottomend that has done over 255,000klms.
Regards Dyno Dave

[destrukshn]

Thats funny I will tell the owner of the VtiR Integra we just did a head on and it made 121kw with a bottomend that has done over 255,000klms.
Regards Dyno Dave
a very good effort, what mods did he have?

[DynoDave]

a very good effort, what mods did he have?
We are not finished tuning yet we needed to redsign the CAI and the headers are 2 year old design I did and will be changed before we retune,once its finished I will let the owner start another thread with his mods and what ever else he wants to add.
Regards Dyno Dave

[ProECU]

how the f uck are u contributing and giving ppl a better idea of things when u posting ur dyno figure from a different shop and a different place? I am only posting my figure cos I did my dyno at the same shop. don't tell me to stop posting stuff when u were first one to post up misleading, meaningless and irrelevant info.

you my friend, are ignorant, you're discarding free information, and no, its not meaningless & irrelevant.


why doesn't anyone here post the SAE correction coefficient when comparing dyno output?

[ginganggooly]

because correction figures would be meaningless to the vast majority of members, notable exceptions being yourself, dynodave and toda.

[destrukshn]

because correction figures would be meaningless to the vast majority of members, notable exceptions being yourself, dynodave and toda.
yes, but it would be good if they did post it, so they tuners here can comment. and mayeb give some recommendations
=)

[fatboyz39]

After the tune, overall the car feels alot quicker then before. NO more flatspots, vtec crossover point was smoothen out rather then the big 'vtec kick'.

We'll see how i go at the creek 2mrw. I was hitting 96MPH prior to the tune.

[phantom_civic]

Good luck with 2moro.

[SLOWEGG]

I thought dyno runs are usually in 3rd gear? and 4th for the 6speed cars..

[bennjamin]

I thought dyno runs are usually in 3rd gear? and 4th for the 6speed cars..

isnt it mostly in 4th gear for 5 speed cars , as the ratio is closest to 1:1 .

[eG_YoDa]

you my friend, are ignorant, you're discarding free information, and no, its not meaningless & irrelevant.


why doesn't anyone here post the SAE correction coefficient when comparing dyno output?

took the words rite out of my mouth evan
:thumbsup:

[fatboyz39]

Done 14.2 @ 96 MPh tonight. Need those damn headers.

[STOCK]

thats in the eg yeah? good stuff!

[barefootbonzai]

Done 14.2 @ 96 MPh tonight. Need those damn headers.

that's more like it. what was the 60" time?

[string]

The gear doesn't really matter, as long as you are in a high enough gear to avoid traction problems.

[fatboyz39]

60 Ft was 2.117

[Malenic1981]

I don't know how and why but it looks like all the east cost dynos are reading a lot more than west cost dynos, I'm not saying that the numbers are wrong or anything but I think that dyno is tuning tool and comparing dyno results (from different dynos) is not the way to go.

[slipn]

Hey man, what does your home made inlet system look like?

[fatboyz39]

sounds like any other induction noise :) its nothing special

[Weq]

117kw on that dyno is good power! well not when u compare it to mrjdm making 236kw on it, but good for NA :)

[fatboyz39]

UPDATE

Got the car retune tonight. Since last dyno run we got Custom built header , made by Dyno Dave and Plazmaman Intake.

After tune it made 127.6kw atw. Vtec was also moved back to 5000rpm. More mid range and top end = FUN.

Thanks to Dave for tuning it.

[locote]

Dam according to the dyno your using your making way more power than my Boosted B18c....
You must absolutly demolish the new HSV vehicles as i can just beat them..
Easy 12s mate i should have just stayed N/A lol

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Dam according to the dyno your using your making way more power than my Boosted B18c....
You must absolutly demolish the new HSV vehicles as i can just beat them..
Easy 12s mate i should have just stayed N/A lol

so your saying your boosted b18c is struggling to make 127kw??

if thats so then theres severely something wrong with your car?

[phantom_civic]

UPDATE

Got the car retune tonight. Since last dyno run we got Custom built header , made by Dyno Dave and Plazmaman Intake.

After tune it made 127.6kw atw. Vtec was also moved back to 5000rpm. More mid range and top end = FUN.

Thanks to Dave for tuning it.

Congrats.
Thats alot of power considering basic bolt ons.
Anything new plans for the beast to get 130Kws+?

[fatboyz39]

Congrats.
Thats alot of power considering basic bolt ons.
Anything new plans for the beast to get 130Kws+?

thanks. There's future plans for it. Don't think it'll make more power, were trying to fix up the midrange with some ITB's.

[Q_ball]

Y::.;1005957']so your saying your boosted b18c is struggling to make 127kw??

if thats so then theres severely something wrong with your car?

My initial thoughts too..
127kw for a turbo b18 is quite weak.

[locote]

Only made 120whp on the dyno it got tuned, before the turbo was put on but.
Sounds like a weak B18c hey.
Id be lucky to break 15s wit that sort of HP hey

[locote]

Theres is something wrong with my car..
Its got gay vtec!!! whish i had got a B18B instead id be able to run more boost and make way more power

[Benson]

car would be out at the strip soon.... Mid-range power curve was ok.... need a bigger throttle body to fix it up...Car feel awesome after the tune...:)

We gain a few kw's down low and some mid range, but the biggest winner was top end where we gain 10kw...not bad for jsut a set of new headers and intake...

[ginganggooly]

told ya the header would work ;)

good to see some solid results, i want to see a low 13 out of that car now...

[ALLMTR996]

UPDATE

Got the car retune tonight. Since last dyno run we got Custom built header , made by Dyno Dave and Plazmaman Intake.

After tune it made 127.6kw atw. Vtec was also moved back to 5000rpm. More mid range and top end = FUN.

Thanks to Dave for tuning it.
Just spoke with Dyno Dave he is very unhappy about the whole graph and output of the engine and said he will contact you guy's after you get back from Wakefield.He was talking about intake pipe being wrong or something :o
ALLMTR996

[xtercii]

Has Dave started making headers again or this is just a one-off thing?

[ALLMTR996]

Has Dave started making headers again or this is just a one-off thing?
He has been playing with design's over the last 3 months and these headers where his lastest design and there is another set on the jig now.
ALLMTR996

[barefootbonzai]

Sweet as guys. Can't wait till you get that thing up here ;)

[fatboyz39]

I was comparing our graph and yours barefoot, not much difference heehehehe.

[BlitZ]

I was comparing our graph and yours barefoot, not much difference heehehehe.

congrats
I hope to see 1:11 at wakie tommorrow..:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:... and a low-mid 13 sec pass

[fatboyz39]

told ya the header would work ;)

good to see some solid results, i want to see a low 13 out of that car now...

hhehe yeh man they work good, plus a nice sound to the exhuast note now.

Thats our goal atm to get into the 13's and work our way down.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[panda[cRx]]

Theres is something wrong with my car..
Its got gay vtec!!! whish i had got a B18B instead id be able to run more boost and make way more power

lol you can still run high boost with vtec, from your other posts and some other things you've said it sounds like you need a new tuner :wave:

anyway great stuff fatboyz

[.::F[L]Y::.]

;1007396']lol you can still run high boost with vtec, from your other posts and some other things you've said it sounds like you need a new tuner :wave:

anyway great stuff fatboyz

boost+vtec is the way to go....:thumbsup: :)

[ALLMTR996]

Y::.;1011939']boost+vtec is the way to go....:thumbsup: :)

Thats funny I read where you where slower than your brother around Wakefield :p
ALLMTR996

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Thats funny I read where you where slower than your brother around Wakefield :p
ALLMTR996

minor technical problems :o

dw il be back to NA for my next car....spoke to Dynodave abt it briefly hehehe :p

[ALLMTR996]

Y::.;1012707']minor technical problems :o

dw il be back to NA for my next car....spoke to Dynodave abt it briefly hehehe :p
Yes he said he is looking forward to your next setup but was very impressed with your current one.
ALLMTR996

[fatboyz39]

we ran at the strip tonight.

Best run we got was a 13.6@101MPH 2.086 ft.

[destrukshn]

nice time.
lol.

[Benson]

was a good night even tho fatboyz drove my car n i drove his....

Pretty pleased with the result.... pretty good for an unopened motor :)

[EG5]

:thumbsup: nice one, congrats

[fatboyz39]

yes the swift got 15.0 hahhaha im up with the b16a.

[jdmTYPE R]

yes the swift got 15.0 hahhaha im up with the b16a.

no where near fatboy

[locote]

Thats a awsome time man, power to weight ratio of the EGs with B18s is awsome:)
How did u get you 60ft so low???

[xtercii]

very nice, was the track dry tonite? thought it would be wet as a lot of the areas were raining...

[ALLMTR996]

we ran at the strip tonight.

Best run we got was a 13.6@101MPH 2.086 ft.
Well done guys it looks like that last trip to the dyno and those headers was worth it:thumbsup:
ALLMTR996
PS Fatboy, Dyno Dave had a 4 throttle manifold in his hands tonight when he got home said something about a Gti setup is that for you

[barefootbonzai]

Thats a awsome time man, power to weight ratio of the EGs with B18s is awsome:)
How did u get you 60ft so low???

Good driving and semi's.

And well done boys, see you next week ;) :thumbsup:

[Benson]

Thats a awsome time man, power to weight ratio of the EGs with B18s is awsome:)
How did u get you 60ft so low???

JUst found a sweet spot for my launches. I was averaging 2.1 all night.

[fatboyz39]

Well done guys it looks like that last trip to the dyno and those headers was worth it:thumbsup:
ALLMTR996
PS Fatboy, Dyno Dave had a 4 throttle manifold in his hands tonight when he got home said something about a Gti setup is that for you

Ahhh yes yes the quads ;);););)

Well worth the headers and dyno:thumbsup:

[ginganggooly]

Congratulations!

I still want to see low 13's though... I hear you've a stock TB on that b18- considered trialling something larger?

Might be worth a shot...

[grumpy rooster]

Ahhh...so you guys (Benson and fatboyz39) would be the guys we were talking to last night.

I was with the Hi-Comp Civic.

[fatboyz39]

Congratulations!

I still want to see low 13's though... I hear you've a stock TB on that b18- considered trialling something larger?

Might be worth a shot...

We'll work our way down bro heheheehe. Yes Dave contacted me about bigger t/b. Will be experimenting on saturaday.

[fatboyz39]

Ahhh...so you guys (Benson and fatboyz39) would be the guys we were talking to last night.

I was with the Hi-Comp Civic.

Yes that was us, Mate congrats to you and your team, all the hard work paid off. Doing a 12's pass with your 2nd outing is good. Can't wait to see you in the 11's or 10's :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[ALLMTR996]

Ahhh...so you guys (Benson and fatboyz39) would be the guys we were talking to last night.

I was with the Hi-Comp Civic.
So what did the Hi Comp civic run? dont worry just found the other thread on the car.
ALLMTR996

[grumpy rooster]

Yes that was us, Mate congrats to you and your team, all the hard work paid off. Doing a 12's pass with your 2nd outing is good. Can't wait to see you in the 11's or 10's :thumbsup::thumbsup:

When you guys ran the 13.6 you could tell it was going to be quick from the time you left the line. Congrats. Thats a great time.

[Benson]

i was having fun with the swift.... lol... bloody didnt get 14's:(

[votek]

what still a stock ITR pull.. say about 115 kms on the dial..

[sivic]

dude, no one can answer that.
by far the most open ended question in a long time. the k's mean nothing if we don't know how it's been treated up to now. how are the tyres........ blah blah etc etc.

only way to know is to actually run it