DA9 sussi

[wkdteg]

hey guys
im tossing up between a new set of rims, or a new suspension set up.
so jsut wanted 2 know... wat settups r u guys runnin? how r u finding them? also, we know its hard 2 find good coilovers for our cars... so wat do u guys recomend?
the set up is more for street use than anything... i want good height, and comfort, but a lil bit of stiffness.
thanx in advance
cheers

[Cold Fusion]

i just got the stock shocks and some kinda springs (i forget what brand) which dump it on its ass heh, very good stiffness, you feel everythign :S but i love them :P

[PHASE2]

yer im riding on stock shocks at the moment with 40mm lowered pedders springs i like the feel of them but im getting them reset in a few weeks time for another inch lower lol im also upgrading my shocks to kyb soon aswell.

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

purple D2's

[SKREMN]

I got koni yellows
these are hight adjustable as well as dampening
they do the job quite well and if you dont like the stiff ride you can make it softer

[FR33K]

wheels or suspension...well that depends..
if your gonna go coil overs then it wont matter in which order u buy them
if your gonna get just springs/shocks then get wheels first so u know how much to lower the car...

[Redteg]

I went with wheels first but the resulting look spurred me on to get my suspension sorted.

I'm currently on a Koni/Kings setup with a Whiteline rear swaybar (thanks Andrew, had a brain fart!) and I am very happy with it. The Konis made a world of a difference.

If you are keen on coilovers you can always use a DC/EG setup with the replacement of a few parts.

[FR33K]

whiteline rear swaybar :P

[wkdteg]

I went with wheels first but the resulting look spurred me on to get my suspension sorted.

I'm currently on a Koni/Kings setup with a Whiteline rear strut brace and I am very happy with it. The Konis made a world of a difference.

If you are keen on coilovers you can always use a DC/EG setup with the replacement of a few parts.

yeah ive heard ppl say that the eg setups r straight forward, nothin needs 2 b changed? can any1 shed any light on this rumour?
the more i think about it, the more im convincing myslelf 2 get coilovers... maximum dumpage on my 15s would look kinda sweet :(
actionman... any details on the d2s? price? model etc...?
cheers

[Mr_will]

you can use dc2 (non r ) suspension if you have the front drop forks from a dc2

you can use dc2r suspension if you have front forks and rear lca's

the latter is a waste of money in my opinion. there are loads of great coilovers available for dc2, for which you only need front forks. only problem is most of them are a rip off

[PHASE2]

yes i would also like someone to shed some light on the fitting of eg civic coilovers cos a importer that i go to has some sitting down there, wouldnt mind picking them up lol

[Mr_will]

just go here, and read

http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30796&highlight=coilovers

[wkdteg]

according to the above thread

"Here's what you will need to use EG/DC shocks:

-EG/DC shocks
-EG/DC front forks"

now the thread pretty much talks about using the stock shocks of the eg/dc model. now in using coilovers made for those models, would all i need to get them on r the front forks?

im lookin at buying these
Tein Super Street damper ( height and softness and hardness adjustable )
DC2 $1480- including Type R LCA
EG (Australia) $1480- including Type R LCA
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30918

so according to the g2ic thread, all ill need is the eg or dc front forks for these teins to fit? would i need the rear LCAs aswell? or would my stock da 1s suit?

also i had my wheel alignment done yday, and its pretty much farked up the ass (the rear was lowered, but it was a pretty poor job). so would these work in correcting the front?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55019

sorry bout the long winded post
cheers

[Mr_will]

i said it earlier, and ill say it again...


if you are fitting dc2 NON R suspension, all you need is FRONT DROP FORKS.


if you are fitting dc2 R suspension, you need DROP FORKS AND LCA's :D

the fact that these kits include the type R lca suggest that they are designed for dc2r, but you need to ask. as i have also said previously, i think its a waste of money buying lca's because there are plenty of coilovers made for regular dc2s that will do the job, and leave you with one less thing to purchase and install.

imo super street are pretty pussy, in terms of spring rates

if youre about to install new sussy dont bother dealing with your alignment problems now (unless they are due to something being bent/broken). get an alignment done after the install

[gumbs]

I've got koni yellows, set at fully sick 4wd ride height so I can actually get up my driveway. And the only gripe I have with it is theres abit to much body roll and traction problems coming out of hard corners.

Would white-line rear sway bar and front strut brace fix this up? I'd rather not go for a rear strut brace if I can avoid it because My custom built sub box wouldn't accomodate one. I'm also planning on replacing all my bushes while I'm at it.

I can't do anything about the ride height until I move house next year, its currently about half an inch lower than my daily DA9 which I'm assuming is running stock kit.

[leech]

i've got a set of tein ss on my LS that i dont want anymore, pm me if your interested. I would have to organise some standard springs before i could sell them to you tho

[wkdteg]

looks like the koni yellows r a popular choice
i was havin a look on the american tein website, and theyve got a kit specificaly for the da9, with pillow ball upper mounts and suited for the EDFC! too bad we cant get em over here :(

Mr Will... sorry dude, when i was copyin from the link i didnt even look at the fact that the LCA were included... which is a bit odd when i think about it, coz he has a set for the DC2R.
so just 2 clarify, if i get the eg set, all i need is the drop forks?

[Steer^Gimic]

i recently installed tein SS on my LS with DC forks and ITR LCA's. all i can say is, im very glad i didnt go for spring and shock setup. i am more then happy with the result

edit; took me and a friend approx 1 hour to install all for including the arms and forks. and it was the first time iv installed suspension, so dont be afraid to grab that wrench!!

[wkdteg]

sounds good dude
just a couple qs... how would u describe the ride and quality of the ss as opposed 2 the stocks?
and which ss did u use?

[Steer^Gimic]

on the street i have them set at 2 clicks from soft at the front, and 4 clicks from soft in the rear. it is not harsh at ALL and is very user friendly. absorbs alot of harsh bumps and doesnt compromise ride quality. almost like standard with the boaty-ness. stiffer is a completely different story obviously..
they ss's i used where from a ITR

[aus91integra]

coil overs ftw..

[wkdteg]

on the street i have them set at 2 clicks from soft at the front, and 4 clicks from soft in the rear. it is not harsh at ALL and is very user friendly. absorbs alot of harsh bumps and doesnt compromise ride quality. almost like standard with the boaty-ness. stiffer is a completely different story obviously..
they ss's i used where from a ITR

sounds good
itr sussi... so i assume thats y u need the itr lcas.
wats the handling around corners like?

[crispy]

i can vouch for those teins on steer^gimics car, F**KING awesome man!! i took his car for a spin in the hills, and it feels like stock, except your like a bees dick aways from the ground and the car bahaves itself in corners. The way he has the shocks set up (damper wise) is really good as he pretty much eliminated most of the understeer. As compared to my car which has stock shocks and pedders springs, his is less bouncy, but no less a good ride. He got brand new itr lcas on his car to fit em, but it was most worth it. So get proper coilovers if your gonna fork out the cash, you will not be dissapointed *cries* now i need to save for coilovers!

[wkdteg]

i can vouch for those teins on steer^gimics car, F**KING awesome man!! i took his car for a spin in the hills, and it feels like stock, except your like a bees dick aways from the ground and the car bahaves itself in corners. The way he has the shocks set up (damper wise) is really good as he pretty much eliminated most of the understeer. As compared to my car which has stock shocks and pedders springs, his is less bouncy, but no less a good ride. He got brand new itr lcas on his car to fit em, but it was most worth it. So get proper coilovers if your gonna fork out the cash, you will not be dissapointed *cries* now i need to save for coilovers!

sounds good
i can tell theres a massive difference between my old da9 and my current 1. i like the stock feel of my old 1, where as this 1 is too harsh, and maxes out if ive got a passenger in the back seat. probably coz the dude b4 lowered the springs sum how, really put out my wheel alignment. which is pretty much y i decided 2 go for coilovers.

ive decided between these 2

http://www.ksportusa.com/products/coilovers.html
http://www.tein.co.jp/e/products/super_street.html

i like the ksport coz they have 1 specifically for the da9, but the teins give me the option of the edfc later on. they also make 1s for the da9, but only in the states.
any1 tried the ksport? ide like 2 hear wat use think
cheers

[crispy]

one thing you gotta put into account is that eg/dc coil overs are going to be way lower at the back than your da coil overs. Now correct me if im wrong but from what ive heard is that the front will have heaps of height adjustability, but the back will only be mega low and then go even lower than that.. so id say go for the KSport cos for one, if they are specifically designed for a da, then you will have better adjustment control at both the front and back and i dont see why you need edfc, dont be lazy and just get out of your car and turn the dial, pretty simple

[wkdteg]

is that how it is with steer^gimics car (pics if possible)? or is it different coz he used itr coilovers? ive read the same thing, as the shock for an eg is much shorter than that of a da9, but never really thought bout it like that. thanx
also, a bit of a stupid question... wats the spring rates? like how does the measuring system work?

[aus91integra]

crispy is correct.. eg/dc/ek/itr coil overs at the rear at the maximum height so there is no adjustability in going higher.. just lower.. if ur gonna wind down the da9 coil overs anyway id say no point getting them better off get the eg/dc/ek/itr as they will have more travel... see if u can get some photos of jp's car too see how low it is.. (its just nice IMO)

[Steer^Gimic]

thanks guys, ill have to post up some pics today or tomorrow. think i got one on my phone somewhere. but yeh crispy is correct, in the front i have plenty of height adjustability, while in the rear, it sits quite low, and is almost at the highest setting.
in terms of k sport and tein, i would call fulcrum suspensions. all new import tein coilovers are now made in taiwan, but fulcrum are authorised australian manufactures for tein product. all parts, service, problems can stay local which might be some piece of mind. www.fulcrumsuspensions.com

[wkdteg]

thanx steer, i look forward 2 seeing the pick
ive already asked bt revolution if he can get me a set from the states, so ill just wait and c wat he says, if not, then ill go speak 2 fulcrum.

[leech]

so how do you set the dampening rate in the tein ss, cause mine isnt set right

[Steer^Gimic]

depends on roads you drive on and what kind of driving you do
for everyday driving i have the fronts set at 4 clicks from soft, and the rears set at 6 clicks from soft. back is stiffer so the ass 'follows' the front sharper, and doesnt get floaty on me. plus i have no interior so its much lighter in the rear.
on the track it will be set at nearly full stiff rear and probably half stiff in the front. depends

[wkdteg]

LoL
pics yet?

[Jon_51]

would da6 suspension be suitable for a da9?

[aus91integra]

yup.. just if u using the rears make sure u use the correct lca.. jdm is ball type and all others is fork type..

[wkdteg]

pics yet?

[Steer^Gimic]

sorry for the delay, please ignore the steelies and different shades of white in the panels, i got this car for $800, lol
here is how it sits now with Tein's
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8715/picture096xv7.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture096xv7.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6163/picture097qn1.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture097qn1.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7927/picture095bq8.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture095bq8.jpg)

[wkdteg]

LoL nothing wrong with steelies on a white teg... hehe thats wat my old car LS looked like
the hight is pretty good... its still possible to go lower yeah?

[Steer^Gimic]

yeh it is possible to go much lower actually. cross member scrubs on alot of things. some 16x7.5's are going on it tomorrow, so ill know whether to go lower or higher once they are on

[FR33K]

after all this talk i thought it was gonna be scrubbing on the floor !! you got heaps of roooooom ;) slamm it !

[aus91integra]

Jp Ftw...

[wkdteg]

LoL yeah its higher than i expected.
can ya post some pics up when u get some wheels on it. wanna c how itll look with 16s
cheers

[aus91integra]

with coil overs will go super low freek... ahahaha but u lose all drivability,.. but y damage ur new lip?? hahahahha :thumbsup: :cool:

[Steer^Gimic]

after all this talk i thought it was gonna be scrubbing on the floor !! you got heaps of roooooom ;) slamm it !
daily driver has to be conservative. na, tomorrow night the 16' go on, so ill 're-evaluate' the situation, lol, watch this space

[wkdteg]

watching with hawk eyes

[FR33K]

hmmmm looks vs driveability... hmmmmm

[doonbar]

hmmmm looks vs driveability... hmmmmm
can always have both....

[Steer^Gimic]

can always have both....
i think i may have just had both. back can still go lower, front wont. but i like its stance, pics dont really do it justice.
hope you like the rims btw
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8831/picture099rp9.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture099rp9.jpg) http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5712/picture101mu9.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture101mu9.jpg)

BTW, anybody have a lip for me!!??

[NeRV]

^ Looks tough buddy, my friends after some suspension for his DA6

[FR33K]

front looks good.. the rear should go a bit lower to even it out.. but damn how wide are those tyres !

can you take a pic of the rear on the lowest setting ? im curious to see how low it would go :P

[aus91integra]

looks awesome... so much dish u can eat off it... hahahahha ..

[EKVTIR-T]

i think i may have just had both. back can still go lower, front wont. but i like its stance, pics dont really do it justice.
hope you like the rims btw
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8831/picture099rp9.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture099rp9.jpg) http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5712/picture101mu9.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture101mu9.jpg)

BTW, anybody have a lip for me!!??
:thumbsup:Loving the progress so far.LO'N'SXC's old rims by any chance?
Good luck gettin a late model da9 lip though,been after one forever...:(

[Steer^Gimic]

thanks for the kind words, not lo-n-sxc old wheels, werent his 15"??
na iv spent about 3 months getting these in a respectable condition!
regarding the lip, im gonna try one from a gen1

[FR33K]

gen 1 lip wont fit.. its too short..
get a CD5 accord lip :)

[Steer^Gimic]

i cant picture one, got a pic?

[aus91integra]

i'll swap bumpers with ur jp.. i got a s1 bumper

[FR33K]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44640

i posted one up here.. scroll down a bit

[wkdteg]

woah got dish?
dude how wide r those tires? u gettin any camber issues?
but the rims look nice... i reckon that back could use another cm or 2 lower
any difference in ride?

[Steer^Gimic]

they are 16x7.5" with 205/45's. yes i have camber issues, that should be fixed soon. handles much different, i have cancelled power steering, but with the 16's it handles and steers alot better. you can feel that the wider track is a big improvement. quicker turn-in

hey freek, i checked out that link, but you state that cd5 lip will fit 90-91 ONLY??
i have heard that the gen1 lip is too long for the 90-91 bar, so doesnt that mean it should only be a little big longer for the later bar??

[FR33K]

nah i didnt dude.. scroll down to post #3 and post #7 ;)

EDIT: here ill make it easier
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/FR33K/da9new2.jpg

[Steer^Gimic]

HAWT! think iv just made up my mind, thankyou freek

[Cold Fusion]

Guys i need help with coilovers! i want to get some but im not sure where and what ones to get, can anyone help?

thanks

[LO_N_SXC]

Guys i need help with coilovers! i want to get some but im not sure where and what ones to get, can anyone help?

thanks

Look into the traders section and do a search in sites like G2IC.com in regards to reviews and so on, that may give you some ideas on which brand and model of coilovers you should go for based of what other have tried and so on.

you can pretty much fit many set ups made for EKs and DC2s might just need to change front forks and maybe rear LCAS to make it all work, but all in all its not rocket science.

good luck bro!

[Cold Fusion]

i just went to the wreckers to see about front forks and they said 150 for both! is that exspencive? or just me :S how much do they usually cost? and are the front forks all i need to fit my dc2 coilovers into my da9?

thanks

[doonbar]

if they're just DC2 u should be right with just the front forks, if they came of a DC2R then u need rear LCA's..correct me if im wrong :)

[Mr_will]

if they're just DC2 u should be right with just the front forks, if they came of a DC2R then u need rear LCA's..correct me if im wrong :)


100% correct:thumbsup:

[wkdteg]

i guess 150 seems like a reasonable price to pay.
Cold Fusion - which coilovers did u get?

[Cold Fusion]

i got purple D2's coming straight from America! yay cant wait :P

and thanks guys, i guess ill "fork" out and get the forks (god im funny)

cheers

[Mr_will]

i got purple D2's coming straight from America! yay cant wait :P

and thanks guys, i guess ill "fork" out and get the forks (god im funny)

cheers

can you link us to specs?
where'd you get them, and how much?

[Cold Fusion]

no worries, i got them form no limit motorsport. URL is
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/D2-H13

the guy was really helpful with helping me (i asked a few questions heh) and all up it cost (at the exchange rate) US $969 inc delivery. but then i had to pay 55 bucks to send the money there. so around 1300 AUS

theres a guy on OH who sells them for 1350 and someone in Perth for 1380...but oh well heh

[doonbar]

keep us up to date with how they go! how long till they arrive?

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

did you factor in customs duty? as i had to pay customs for mine from NZ. But as the sender stated the cost was under $1000 i only had to pay the least ammount.

[aus91integra]

any reason why you didnt get the ones for teh DA
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/D2-H12

[Cold Fusion]

any reason why you didnt get the ones for teh DA
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/D2-H12

coz there for da6 not da9...and i hope i don't get charged anymore...otherwise it would of been cheaper/easier/faster to get them form Perth :eek: i sent the money last Thurs. they received the money on sat (our time) and they said they shipped it off around Monday. and around 4-10 days they said. so im aiming be4 fri next week (hopefully just when i get my car back)

[doonbar]

isnt the DA6 just the jap version? didnt think there was any difference besides the engine...?

[aus91integra]

rear LCA is different..

[Mr_will]

isnt the DA6 just the jap version? didnt think there was any difference besides the engine...?

the rear lower control arm is different, so youd be making life as tough as if you bought dc2r stuff

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

the rear lower control arm is different, so youd be making life as tough as if you bought dc2r stuff

With the D2's you get a connection for the rear to choose if you have either the eye type or fork type.

The d2 kit for the G2 DAs fit all rears.

[Cold Fusion]

car got knocked back to Friday when i pick it up, no big deal, means a few more days of patiently waiting heh.

coilovers still haven't come yet, hoping soon!

[Cold Fusion]

coilovers came in the mail today :D im so happy

[doonbar]

when they goin in??? ur gonna have to do a review one day ;)

[Cold Fusion]

hehe trust me im gonna get be4, during and after pics :) and ill TRY do a DIY artical haha

if all goes well, i get my car back Friday. so then hopefully install all my shit on Sunday (ready for chrissie :D) but we'll see, all depends now on the paint place and RJ haha

[wkdteg]

merry christmas dude :thumbsup:
cant wait 2 c em on

[aus91integra]

i put mine back in last night.. no big deal... 2-3hrs
14mm and 17mm sockets/spanners
**fronts**
-unbolt 2 bolts on fork (one for lca and the other on end of shock)
-unbolt shock from top

reverse to install




**rears**
-unbolt sway bar
-unbolt other 3 bolts on LCA
-unbolt shock from top

then do it in reverse to put it back in..

pm if you have trouble coldfusion.. ::thumbsup::

[IZY-10]

i know its an old thread but how did you go coldfusion? do they handle well?

[wkdteg]

curious too

[Cold Fusion]

ah, they are AWESOME, im as low as i was previously wiht my springs but the control and feel of it is so much better, i used to not be able to use CD's coz i jumped around too much, but now i can heh,

they are so smooth and im still able to corner as hard if not even harder, these are well recommended :)

[wkdteg]

sounds good man
wat spring setup did u have b4?
u got any pics?

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

did you factor in customs duty? as i had to pay customs for mine from NZ. But as the sender stated the cost was under $1000 i only had to pay the least ammount.

the total for mine was $1150AU + $100AU (customs duty and GST).

[IZY-10]

whos up for a da cruise in melbourne?

[wkdteg]

whos up for a da cruise in melbourne?

LoL start an EOI thread dude
but im down for a cruise

[180sx]

DA9 cruise in melbourne ? when when when ? ! ?!?!?

[FR33K]

the total for mine was $1150AU + $100AU (customs duty and GST).

hey dude.. got a link of where u purchased them from ?