hid kit problem?? [Archive]

Honda Enthusiast

24-09-2006, 02:10 AM

hi guys.i just had the hid kit installed last wk...and find that its not as bright as the original globes.....

i am seriously thinking of going back and just putting super white globes....

Bro, I think I know what you're talking about...

If you don't mind me asking, did you buy the proper HID kit that cost something like $600+ ? There are different types, a friend of mine bought a less expensive kit for around $350 or somerhing laterly and his lights are actually must less bright than my 6000k blue globes... I personally like globes better for the fact that they're firstly cheaper and secondly still maintain the "glow" look in your headlights whereas the HID's tend to be this very concentrated "glare" - some like it, but I personally do not...so yeah, you just really gotta check out what you're installing.

Good luck dude!

SKY

saxman

24-09-2006, 03:06 AM

the problem is that despite what the seller told you, you do not have a 4300k hid kit. What you have is much higher k, and do have less lumens output.

You know everything else I'm going to say

other potential issue is that drop in hid kits very often have an incorrect focal length for the housing they're going into(you're putting hids into a housing designed for a halogen bulb... THEY ARE NOT THE SAME). Often times, this causes light to not be aimed correctly, resulting in much less usable light output, even if the lumen output of the bulb is the same.

Park in front of a wall, pointing at it, and take a photo showing the light output of the headlights on the wall... will give a good idea if the focal length is horribly off or not.

yourfather

24-09-2006, 03:08 AM

amen to that saxman.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 11:50 AM

ok, ive decided to sell of this hid kit and replace it with s/white globes (for the hid look). which s/white globes would achieve this? thanks u guys

saxman

24-09-2006, 12:07 PM

if you think the light output is bad with a high k hid bulb, you're going to be horribly disappointed with a high k halogen bulb

curik

24-09-2006, 12:10 PM

hang on selling your hid kit. Last time I did an install on a mazda 3 and it was horrible. All turned out to be that I misaligned the bulb in the housing and it had a catastrophic effect. The light was dispersed and dimmer than the stock halogen. After fixing the position and checking everything, everything went perfectly. So make sure the mechanic didnt make this kind of mistake

corn_flakes

24-09-2006, 12:16 PM

i know that a high K doesn't mean more light output, just a diff wavelength/colour...

but even so i thought you would still get a brighter/more light output with HIDs than u would with halogens....

i just got myself a 8000K kit...waiting for delivery...

rhath127

24-09-2006, 01:02 PM

okie will check it later on.

EuroDude

24-09-2006, 01:31 PM

If you choose to keep the HID's, at least get some decent Philips HID bulbs under 5000k. The bulbs u have are probably cheap ones not made in germany. Osram and Philips are the top of the range since they share patents.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 01:38 PM

will any H1 globe work with the HID kit or are there special HID globes?

rhath127

24-09-2006, 01:41 PM

can someone point me to the right direction to purchase HID GLOBE s/white globe

EuroDude

24-09-2006, 01:50 PM

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=philips+HID+H1+bulb&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

Or have a look at some auto shops like AutoOne, Supercheap etc..

And give this a read - some good info: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42987&highlight=hid

saxman

24-09-2006, 02:07 PM

will any H1 globe work with the HID kit or are there special HID globes?
absolutely completely different. No similarities at all.

i know that a high K doesn't mean more light output, just a diff wavelength/colour...

but even so i thought you would still get a brighter/more light output with HIDs than u would with halogens....

i just got myself a 8000K kit...waiting for delivery...
the higher the kelvin rating, the lower the light output. With a 4300k, you'll absolutely get more light than with halogens... with 8k bulbs, the output is about the same lumens wise, but the color is completely worthless for night vision. Very very very poor output. It'll appear sorta bright just because the blue will offer some weird contrast, but you'll be very limited by what you can see at night. If you compared an identical set up using a 4300k bulb, you'd be absolutely amazed at the difference in light output.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 02:45 PM

i took a pic from the view of the headlights...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/rhath127/24092006067.jpg

rhath127

24-09-2006, 02:48 PM

thats the right side.....

the left side is interesting.....

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/rhath127/24092006069.jpg

-- theres a shadow of a line .....which i cant figure out....

would it be recommended to bring it to honda and get them to fix everything the way it shud

saxman

24-09-2006, 03:05 PM

holy crap, that's hideous

don't bother with honda, they'll just laugh at you about it anyway.

First thing you should do is remove the bulb, and then reinsert it. Certainly looks to not be seated correctly.

The shadow is likely from the return wire of the bulb... the bulb is probably upside down. The wire on the bulb must face down.

If pulling the bulbs out and reinserting doesn't work, then you, like a lot of other people, have an extremeley shitty hid kit. Not only does it work very very poorly like all of 'em, it's so shitty that it doesn't even fit in the light correctly. Certainly wouldn't be the first person to have such a thing happen.

btchia

24-09-2006, 03:06 PM

currently im using phillip "blue vision" 4000k, it wouldnt be as bright as those HID kit, i heard phillip"crystal vision" is does make some different, is any one try before?

saxman

24-09-2006, 03:07 PM

buying colored halogen bulbs only results in a major loss of light output. They achieve they're higher k output by adding a filter to the bulb, that changes the color by eliminating the light on the yellow side of the spectrum. Pretty much the best halogen bulbs on the market are the osram silverstars that DO NOT have the filter on them(unlike the Sylvania Silverstars that do have the filter).

If when you look at the bulb, it has a blue coating, throw it away.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:09 PM

would u recommend me changing hid kits? if this turns out to be a crappy hid kit ?

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:11 PM

also i tried to change back to the original globes - i couldnt figure out how to put back the original globe. as there are 2 wires ...but only need one to plug to the globe

saxman

24-09-2006, 03:12 PM

I'd recommend you retrofit the headlights with projectors designed for hid use. Anything you put in there with the lights as is is going to be crap... some just way worse than others.

With a projector retrofit, you'll get oem quality optics(if not better, depending on the projector you chose).

There is a HUGE difference in performance between the euro lux lights and the normal euro lights with an hid kit. Don't think by dropping in hids you're getting anything even remotely similar.

saxman

24-09-2006, 03:13 PM

also i tried to change back to the original globes - i couldnt figure out how to put back the original globe. as there are 2 wires ...but only need one to plug to the globe
most likely one wire grounds to the projector itself, and one goes to the headlight bulb. Look for somewhere near where the bulbs go in that would work to connect the wire to.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:23 PM

i have the box here...it says 4300K H3 conversion kit.....did the supplier con me? is there a difference between h1 and h3?

corn_flakes

24-09-2006, 03:31 PM

err....

euros use H1...!

EuroDude

24-09-2006, 03:34 PM

currently im using phillip "blue vision" 4000k, it wouldnt be as bright as those HID kit, i heard phillip"crystal vision" is does make some different, is any one try before?

yeh the blue visions are pretty much the closest thing to HID, along with another brand that makes a bulb similar. I was gonna get the crystal visions but the dude at the shop (who himself has used many different bulbs and leds etc) said the crystal visions are illegal :o he said they were too bright for halogens or something, not sure if thats true or not tho.. but he seemed to know what he was on about.

Blue visions are around $60, the crystals are $100 rrp.

bungsai

24-09-2006, 03:34 PM

looks like he gave you the wrong bulb size mate, no wonder it is not seated properly and the light is not dispersing correctly.

EuroDude

24-09-2006, 03:36 PM

i have the box here...it says 4300K H3 conversion kit.....did the supplier con me? is there a difference between h1 and h3?

lol dont tell me you intalled H3 bulbs, thats probably why the output looks warped :zip: exchange them for H1's, or revert back to halogens with some decent philips bulbs.

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:39 PM

what if i sell this.....and buy another hid kit?

corn_flakes

24-09-2006, 03:42 PM

go for it...

gonna be hard to find a buyer for H3 bulbs though...i'd go complain and get it exchanged from whom u bought it from...

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:47 PM

problem is i bought it from asia........so no go on returning it...

scr3w it....ill sell it on ebay....and buy a new one.....can u recommend 1 on ebay that will be nice and satisfactory.....

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:48 PM

is this nice?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280029246468&fromMakeTrack=true

rhath127

24-09-2006, 03:49 PM

or this.....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H4-H7-H11-9005-6-7-ALL-TYPE_W0QQitemZ330031949612QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10256 0QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

clowdz

24-09-2006, 03:57 PM

I do notice you have a nice cut off for the standard halogen projectors, even the H3 bulbs are causing all those shadow effects. Very Sharp. :thumbsup:

corn_flakes

24-09-2006, 03:58 PM

i got the one from the first link...

waiting for delivery...

i got the H1 8000K...hope it's bright enough...should have got the 6000k

rhath127

24-09-2006, 04:12 PM

coolies corn flake - seeing that i have the hid kit already cant i get the hid bulbs instead of a whole new kit? will that work?

corn_flakes

24-09-2006, 04:16 PM

yeh i think that should work...

not 100% sure though...

saxman

24-09-2006, 04:52 PM

I give up

rhath127

24-09-2006, 09:38 PM

lol u give up.......

i just removed the hid kit and went back to me original globes...phuck it for now...ill think about it next time

aka_NSX

24-09-2006, 09:54 PM

whoever is installing that HID they should know your car is H1 and the HID is H3 so they shouldn't install it from the beginning :eek: coz it wont seat properly .............

bungsai

25-09-2006, 12:07 AM

h3 fits into the accord euro fog lights no?, might as well put it there for 6000 lumens of hid goodness.

jamchen

25-09-2006, 12:28 AM

h3 fits into the accord euro fog lights no?, might as well put it there for 6000 lumens of hid goodness.

the foggies are H11 i believe../

Lowenhart

25-09-2006, 02:16 AM

There is a HUGE difference in performance between the euro lux lights and the normal euro lights with an hid kit. Don't think by dropping in hids you're getting anything even remotely similar.

Got any pics to show the huge difference?

saxman

25-09-2006, 06:59 AM

h3 fits into the accord euro fog lights no?, might as well put it there for 6000 lumens of hid goodness.
if by 6000, you mean more like 2500

EuroDude

25-09-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by saxman
There is a HUGE difference in performance between the euro lux lights and the normal euro lights with an hid kit. Don't think by dropping in hids you're getting anything even remotely similar.

Are you sure? my halogens have a very similar cut-off to HID's. Maybe the TSX ones are a bit different?

saxman

25-09-2006, 09:27 AM

Are you sure? my halogens have a very similar cut-off to HID's. Maybe the TSX ones are a bit different?
it's not just the cutoff

halogen projectors are designed for the light output of a halogen bulb. They focus the light accordingly. This is something I can't emphasize enough.

You may still get a plenty sharp cut off, but halogen projectors aren't designed to output as wide of a beam as hids are. There are a handful of projectors out there can serve double duty, but they produce very poor usable output when used as an hid projector.

EuroDude

25-09-2006, 10:16 AM

Then maybe the Euro lux's should use the normal halogen projectors, that way I wont get blinded everytime I see a euro lux lol :p

saxman

25-09-2006, 10:23 AM

that's more likely an aiming issue than anything

bungsai

25-09-2006, 06:53 PM

if by 6000, you mean more like 2500

cmon, there is a good 2-3000 lumens available per pair. Theoretically combine output may equal 6000 lumens. 3200 +/-250 lumens is what a single phillips 4100k kit is rated at.

X 2 = 6400 lumens...theoretically..

now to cover my ass, i am by no means stating that his cheap chinese knock off will output anything near what a good ol phillips kit can. Without being too anal retentive and going into the specifics of the light dispersal properties of the relevant housings, lets just say it will be bright ok?:thumbsup:

corn_flakes

25-09-2006, 08:53 PM

hey, can i just ask where you mounted your ballasts??

and did u use the stock clip or did u hook it up direct to the battery?

questions also go out to other euro owners with HIDs...:D

saxman

26-09-2006, 07:35 AM

cmon, there is a good 2-3000 lumens available per pair. Theoretically combine output may equal 6000 lumens. 3200 +/-250 lumens is what a single phillips 4100k kit is rated at.

X 2 = 6400 lumens...theoretically..

now to cover my ass, i am by no means stating that his cheap chinese knock off will output anything near what a good ol phillips kit can. Without being too anal retentive and going into the specifics of the light dispersal properties of the relevant housings, lets just say it will be bright ok?:thumbsup:

he's showing pictures of a much higher k kit. I realize the seller told him it was a 4300k kit, but they also said it would fit his car and gave him an H3 kit, so enough said. Those bulbs don't put out anywhere near that.

corn_flakes... a relay switched wiring harness should always be used when adding hids.

TypeG

27-09-2006, 10:09 AM

Lux projector is = base model projector

saxman

27-09-2006, 04:15 PM

Lux projector is = base model projector
no they're not...

they may be similar, but they're not the same.

destrukshn

27-09-2006, 04:17 PM

no they're not...

they may be similar, but they're not the same.
some people don't listen aye?
lol.

btw saxman, hopefully i shall talk to you tonight on MSN, i've got a few q's to ask.
=)

saxman

27-09-2006, 04:22 PM

sounds good... I'm probably going to be getting to bed early(for me at least) tonight, so you may want to start the convo via pm

corn_flakes

27-09-2006, 07:21 PM

i just installed my 8000K HID kit today...

it's a pain trying to find a place to mount the ballasts in the euro!

but i'm quite happy with them atm...quite bright!!

only questions i'm having atm...do most HID kits buzz whilst warming up? i hear an audible buzz when it's warming up, then it settles down to a very quiet buzz...

and what can anyone tell me about having HIDs on for very short periods of time?

(i just found out that when all your lights are off, and you flick the high beam, the low beams also go on.....so i'm a bit afraid with the HID kit in now)

clowdz

27-09-2006, 08:15 PM

You got any pics of your cutoff? And did the H1 HID Bulb fit into the stock hole? As some of the members have had issues with the H1 HID Bulb being larger than the stock Halogen H1 Hole for the headlight.

corn_flakes

27-09-2006, 08:37 PM

what's this so called cutoff that everyone talks about????? explain please...lol

and yeh it fit fine...except the way that the bulb fit means that the dark wire thing on the bulb sits on top, so u see 2 slightly dark lines...

here's a vid. that shows the HID kit warming up, the dark lines i was talking about, and if u crank up ur volume the buzzing sound when the kit warms up....

about 7-8mb...

http://members.optusnet.com.au/random804/MVI_4813.avi

aaronng

27-09-2006, 08:41 PM

Cutoff is the top line where you can see that there is significantly less light. Even the stock halogens have a cutoff on the euro.

clowdz

27-09-2006, 08:42 PM

Cut off is the shape of the beam projected. i.e. When you shine it against a wall do you see a sharp line where the light stops? or is diffused and have hot spots where there shouldn't be light. Ideally the beam should look something like this against a wall \____ \____ (The left angles should not be that high, but you get the idea) Also, having the wire on the top side is going to seriously reduce the amount of output you headlights can project. If you are able to flip it 180 Degrees so the Wire is pointing downwards you will get significantly more light.

corn_flakes

27-09-2006, 08:48 PM

vid uploaded...have a look

clowdz

27-09-2006, 08:58 PM

vid uploaded...have a look
From what I can see (as the light hasn't been projected directly onto a flat wall) the cut off looks fine with no noticable glare. The colour is a bit dark though, and I think you will some problems with seeing when it rains. I also see the shadow from the wire, is there no way at all you can flip it upside down, as you will get much light than you are at the moment if you can.

corn_flakes

27-09-2006, 09:31 PM

nope there isn't any way to flip it the other way...

just like how you can't flip your normal bulbs as well...

and why do u think the colour has something to do with difficulty seeing it in the rain? :S

aaronng

27-09-2006, 09:37 PM

Are the dark lines visible from inside the car?

corn_flakes

27-09-2006, 09:43 PM

Are the dark lines visible from inside the car?

yep...

a bit annoying when u notice it when u drive...

saxman

28-09-2006, 04:15 AM

and why do u think the colour has something to do with difficulty seeing it in the rain? :S
higher k bulbs produce more blue light(that's a lie, they actually just produce less of other colored light, but relative to everything else, you're just seeing blue light) than proper bulbs. This blue light produces much more glare when hitting the rain, severly limiting your visibility. Also, they simply produce less light, so you have less light going out and more glare coming back.

to answer your other questions, yes, the ballasts normally make noise while warming up, it's nothing to be concerned about. Having them on for short periods, however, is. It takes a lot more power to warm up the bulbs than run them constantly. Having them turn on quickly, then turn off doesn't allow them to warm up all the way, putting extra stress on the bulbs and ballasts, and will cause them to wear out prematurely. With a cheap hid kit that doesn't have much for longevity as is, the last thing you want to do is shorten its life. Also, having the wire upside down like that is reported to not only reduce output, but to put increased stress on the bulbs(causing the salts to not behave as designed). If the manufacture of the kit can't even get that part right, you should seriously consider how much effort could have possibly gone into making a reliable set up.

Omotesando

28-09-2006, 06:32 AM

I know a few people with a standard Euro with aftermarket HID kits on them.

I have a Luxury model with oem HID lights.

The difference? Honestly, not much at all. Beam pattern is surprisingly even.

Theoretically having proper HID projectors will be better than Halogen projectors for certain. But for H1 conversions, it just luckily seems to work out okay most the time. Most other lights wouldn't work though!

The thing is - as a Lux owner, sometimes I can't actually tell if the other car's HID is a retrofit or not, until I can see other parts of their car which gives it away - like their seats, sunroof, wheels, etc.

LSD GD3

28-09-2006, 11:29 AM

ok, ive decided to sell of this hid kit and replace it with s/white globes (for the hid look). which s/white globes would achieve this? thanks u guys

no need
just get other Hid Bulbs which is less then 7000K
i install my Euro with 6000k and is so much better then normal Bulbs

ask your supplier if they can swap to a Lower K light range

EuroDude

28-09-2006, 11:35 AM

sometimes I can't actually tell if the other car's HID is a retrofit or not

The lack of HID washers on the fornt bumper is an easy give away ;)

destrukshn

28-09-2006, 11:56 AM

The lack of HID washers on the fornt bumper is an easy give away ;)
what about in the dark?
lol.
you can't extactly pin point that out in the dark plus also from a distance.

aaronng

28-09-2006, 12:02 PM

The thing is - as a Lux owner, sometimes I can't actually tell if the other car's HID is a retrofit or not, until I can see other parts of their car which gives it away - like their seats, sunroof, wheels, etc.
Easy, Lux HIDs are a little yellowish, I suspect 5000k... while base model owners usually go for pure white at 6000k or even more blue!

saxman

28-09-2006, 12:17 PM

Easy, Lux HIDs are a little yellowish, I suspect 5000k... while base model owners usually go for pure white at 6000k or even more blue!
like nearly every other oem set up, 4300k

corn_flakes

28-09-2006, 01:41 PM

ok i just tried to flip my bulb the other way around, but it's not going to happen...

i think it's more the euro headlight than the HID kit that is preventing me from having the wire on the bulb on the bottom...

below is my ghetto drawing to explain why....

http://members.optusnet.com.au/random804/hidlight.bmp

as you can see the shape of the hole where you put your bulb into...the bulb width of the HID bulb JUST fits into that bottom part of the hole, so there's no way it will fit if you flip it....

other standard model euro owners with HIDs....do YOU have the wire on top as well??

aaronng

28-09-2006, 01:42 PM

like nearly every other oem set up, 4300k
Ahh.. :thumbsup:

Lowenhart

28-09-2006, 01:50 PM

destrukshn

28-09-2006, 01:51 PM

Enlarge the hole...
what for?
it fits and it works?

Lowenhart

28-09-2006, 01:52 PM

So he can flip it

aaronng

28-09-2006, 02:07 PM

Enlarge the hole...
That's not the way to do things. First he has to find out why is he getting a shadow on the bottom when that back electrode is on the top!

corn_flakes

28-09-2006, 02:31 PM

lol i aint drilling no hole in my headlight...just to flip the bulb...:P

but yeh, i can only guess that shadow is from the black wire...

but i don't see why there would be a difference if the black wire was on the bottom??? someone care to explain? :)

clowdz

28-09-2006, 02:40 PM

Yes, because the beam gets Inverted when it passes through the projector lens. Refer to this image... http://www.mvlc.info/images/lighting_glossary_files/image008SM.jpg

So If your wire is on the top then it will look like it's on the bottom when it comes through the projector. If you look inside you headlight, you will see the cut off shield actually sits on the bottom of the headlight assembly. In you case, the electrode is sitting above the red point in that image, so when it gets projected the shadow will be at the bottom of the beam. Someone in this forum had this same problem, and the solution I believe was to get a small file so that electrode could sit at the bottom... Don't quote me though.

aaronng

28-09-2006, 02:44 PM

Hmm, I wonder why, with the halogen bulbs, that when the filament is at the top that the top is brighter and viceversa when the filament is at the bottom that the bottom is brighter?

clowdz

28-09-2006, 03:22 PM

Hmm, I wonder why, with the halogen bulbs, that when the filament is at the top that the top is brighter and viceversa when the filament is at the bottom that the bottom is brighter?

Sorry aaronng, what top is brighter? Headlight or Beam?

aaronng

28-09-2006, 03:33 PM

Sorry aaronng, what top is brighter? Headlight or Beam?
With halogen H1, they fit both ways in the headlight. I put the bulb with the filament facing the top, the beam on the wall is bright up the top. If I install with the filament facing down, the beam is very dim on the wall but when you look at it, it's bright.

saxman

28-09-2006, 04:44 PM

With halogen H1, they fit both ways in the headlight. I put the bulb with the filament facing the top, the beam on the wall is bright up the top. If I install with the filament facing down, the beam is very dim on the wall but when you look at it, it's bright.
because the filament isn't centered in the bulb(at least relative to the base), so when put in upside down, the focal position is wrong. This is part of why hid kits can cause such extra glare... a filament isn't used, so even when positioned in the same place, the source of the light isn't identical to the halogen filament, so output gets all screwed up from an incorrect focal position.

Omotesando

28-09-2006, 06:43 PM

The lack of HID washers on the fornt bumper is an easy give away ;)

LOL. I like this one :) But I don't think when the Stds or Lux have their HID lights are on, I can actually look at that part of their car since its way too bright! Need shades! :cool:

As for looking out at the HID colour temp differences between OEM or Aftermarket HID kits..... Its not easy either.

The standard LUX HIDs look quite white/yellow from close up, blue from a distance, and very blue from even further. Guess what, the aftermarket kits look exactly the same. Some of them are Bluer because they go for 6000 or 8000k kits. :D

But saying this is an 'easy' method to pick out the difference has two falls:

1) You're assuming they went for high K lights. Which is not necessarily the case.
2) Some people on oem HID setup, can also have changed their D2S bulbs to a higher colour temp, as shown on this thread.

My point is - if the oem HID and retrofit HID is so different.... then why is it that I actually have to think and then look out for the signs, before i can conclude whether its aftermarket or factory?

Funny thing is - most BMW 320 or 325s with retrofit HIDs are really easy to spot. It just looks completely different to factory. But for the Euro Accord, its actually quite hard to spot it.

corn_flakes

28-09-2006, 06:51 PM

^ that's why i feel safe of not getting defected...

most people assume that all euros come with HIDs

but imagine a civic driving around with HIDs...u'll definately know it's aftermarket...

EuroDude

28-09-2006, 10:21 PM

Do service stations who do rego checks have the power to defect HID's that dont have auto-levelers and washers? Or at least deny the completion of your pink slip?

corn_flakes

29-09-2006, 12:02 AM

Do service stations who do rego checks have the power to defect HID's that dont have auto-levelers and washers? Or at least deny the completion of your pink slip?

they prolly won't give a sh!t...

and our cars are still brand new...won't need pinkies for another 3 years is it? correct me if i'm wrong...

aaronng

29-09-2006, 12:20 AM

they prolly won't give a sh!t...

and our cars are still brand new...won't need pinkies for another 3 years is it? correct me if i'm wrong...
Yup. When you do your servicing before your rego is due, get the dealer to do the pink slip for you.

Omotesando

29-09-2006, 01:04 AM

That's not the way to do things. First he has to find out why is he getting a shadow on the bottom when that back electrode is on the top!

Yeah apparently, that's how the optics work?
I think someone kind of mentioned it already.
An analogy is your eyeballs. When you pick up an image and it goes through your eye optics, its converted upside down. The brain then reinterprets that the correct side up (scary actually!). Also, the right brain controls the opposite, left side of your body. And what's really weird is.. despite that, the right brain actually still controls the right eye. :D

The other thing that's mentioned and might be confusing:

1) On the HID lightbulbs (retrofit or oem), having the ceramic coated 'electrode' at the top gives a shadow on the ground. This electrode is actually a dark body... so due to how optics are inverted, this shadow is logical. Therefore the electrode on HID bulb must face down.
In fact I got confused too before and didn't notice the differences, before this discussion, but:

2) On the Halogen H1 lightbulb, the filament coil being on top is actually correct, because the filament burns and gives the light. It is the same as having the clean side of the HID bulb facing upwards, then having this 'top' light reflected down onto the pavement.

The other thing to consider is - the H1 halogen bulb's 'light emitting dimension' is actually similar in dimension to HID bulbs. The Halogen's filament coil is aligned with the car's length (not perpendicular to, also not off centre to the side such as on other size halogen bulbs). The HID's burning Arc of Light is also aligned with car. So even though the projector designs and focal lengths might be different, I guess in real life its not entirely out of whack...

clowdz

03-10-2006, 03:13 PM

Anyone know if it's possible to get spares of the headlight bulb covers? The big plastic thing that screws in to keep dust etc out..

aaronng

03-10-2006, 03:29 PM

Anyone know if it's possible to get spares of the headlight bulb covers? The big plastic thing that screws in to keep dust etc out..
Get them from the dealer.

clowdz

03-10-2006, 04:24 PM

Get them from the dealer.

I rang them just now, they said they cannot be purchased seperately and can only be bought with the entire headlight assembly. Hope this isn't true.. :(

aaronng

03-10-2006, 04:34 PM

I rang them just now, they said they cannot be purchased seperately and can only be bought with the entire headlight assembly. Hope this isn't true.. :(
Try online shops that sell TSX parts. They should have it separate.

clowdz

03-10-2006, 04:52 PM

Have had a quick look on some websites and it would appear most do not sell the cover as a part. Can anyone point me to a site that may sell this part?

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/home.jsp

corn_flakes

03-10-2006, 09:24 PM

Anyone know if it's possible to get spares of the headlight bulb covers? The big plastic thing that screws in to keep dust etc out..

god i hope so coz i drilled through mine to install the HIDs...

find a wrecker??

or if worse comes to worse, i'll sink to the lowest level and replace mine with those from a dealer...LOL

destrukshn

03-10-2006, 09:25 PM

lol, corn flakes, i forgot to get back to you.
lol.
yeah can't buy em separelty.. but there is always a way around it.
=)
just give me a holla when you actually need it.

clowdz

03-10-2006, 11:20 PM

lol, corn flakes, i forgot to get back to you.
lol.
yeah can't buy em separelty.. but there is always a way around it.
=)
just give me a holla when you actually need it.

Hahaha.. what's that suppose to mean :eek:
I need a pair for the HID Mod.

corn_flakes

05-10-2006, 08:41 PM

lol, corn flakes, i forgot to get back to you.
lol.
yeah can't buy em separelty.. but there is always a way around it.
=)
just give me a holla when you actually need it.

cheers man! ;)

prolly won't need it anytime soon though, HIDs are holding up fine...:cool:

corn_flakes

28-10-2006, 09:23 PM

took out the HIDs...i just used fat electrical tape to cover the holes i drilled...taped on both sides...

kam

28-10-2006, 10:47 PM

in regards to normal headlight bulbs, not HID's, say, super bright blue ones, which brand do you guys use? philips ?

corn_flakes

28-10-2006, 11:16 PM

super bright blue globes are gayness....light output is CRAP

take_no_prisoners

23-06-2007, 10:57 PM

RE: headlight bulb covers (The big plastic thing that screws in to keep dust out).

Are these DIY removable or do you need a special tool? I'm struggling to see how they come off...

take_no_prisoners

24-06-2007, 10:23 PM

*bump* anybody?

LSD GD3

24-06-2007, 10:37 PM

RE: headlight bulb covers (The big plastic thing that screws in to keep dust out).

Are these DIY removable or do you need a special tool? I'm struggling to see how they come off...

don't know what you mean
don't know what you want to DIY

it just twis off

ACTI0NMAN-1

24-06-2007, 10:48 PM

isnt the problems with hids seeable light. Somthing about you being able to see more with a yellower light than a white light.

take_no_prisoners

24-06-2007, 10:59 PM

don't know what you mean
don't know what you want to DIY

it just twis off

Yeah thanks, managed to get it off. I'm trying to change my lightbulbs but am having a little trouble following the manual :o

NeoNode

25-06-2007, 08:24 AM

isnt the problems with hids seeable light. Somthing about you being able to see more with a yellower light than a white light.
That's when you start to go above the 4300k+ range.
And you probably see more in rain or fog with a yellower light.

^__^ SM ^__^

25-06-2007, 08:24 PM

That's when you start to go above the 4300k+ range.
And you probably see more in rain or fog with a yellower light.

i agree.. i have 6000k HIDs and they light up street signs really well.. but that's about it.. visibility of road wise, nearly same as my stock halogens... really disappointing compared to the real HIDs out there.. could be the color or is it the halogen projectors... not sure.

NeoNode

25-06-2007, 09:10 PM

i agree.. i have 6000k HIDs and they light up street signs really well.. but that's about it.. visibility of road wise, nearly same as my stock halogens... really disappointing compared to the real HIDs out there.. could be the color or is it the halogen projectors... not sure.
Well I can think of a few issues regarding this.
Headlight alignment
Projectors used
Colour Temperature

All will affect the outcome on how light is projected onto the road.

^__^ SM ^__^

25-06-2007, 10:36 PM

Well I can think of a few issues regarding this.
Headlight alignment
Projectors used
Colour Temperature

All will affect the outcome on how light is projected onto the road.

I've decided to go back to stock halogens.. maybe get the high output ones... not the painted blue ones... just hope it won't melt the projectors because of high output = more heat.

If anyone wants to buy a 6months old 6000K HID H1 kit, please PM me. hardly used at all as I don't do a lot of night driving (still uni student with parents so can't come home late ;))