curious how tight i should be tightening my valve cover bolts. [Archive]

fadz

06-10-2006, 09:56 PM

as title sayz can some one tell me
how tight it should be with the torque wrench
and also how much for a new gasket sealant at Honda? if anyon knows off the top of ther head
cheers.

ECU-MAN

06-10-2006, 11:16 PM

not very tight

someting like 12 to 15Nm

gaskets are about $40, each spark plug seal is about $20

honda bond from honda is about$120, just use PyrteK Ultra Grey Sensor Safe only $9 and does the same Job

destrukshn

06-10-2006, 11:54 PM

careful with honda bond though.
that shit sticks like no tomorrow.
in our work shop, we used to use honda bond to seal the bottom of saab sumps.. it was sooo good, it didn't want to come off and half the time bent focked the sump.
lol.

Slow96GSR

07-10-2006, 08:27 AM

DO NOT TRY TO TIGHTEN THE VALVE COVER BOLT WHILE THE HEAD IS HOT. The studs are hot, thus expanded, when it cools they can snap, also if you tighten then hot they are not as strong and can snap as you put the torque on them. The domed nuts, the nice pretty ones, in the middle for the spark plug cover get hand tightened only. All the others get 9.8nM/7.2Ft LBS at most.

BlitZ

07-10-2006, 08:30 AM

match sure u use the tony little wrenches..
i used a bigger one and snapped one bolt..

it was a bitch to buy cause Peter Warren kept on ordering the wrong parts.. ordered it 3 times and it was still wrong.. even came out and got my chasis number but somehow ordered a D series one..

panda[cRx]

07-10-2006, 01:55 PM

destrukshn

07-10-2006, 02:49 PM

']from what i hear, some dealerships don't use it for that reason.... so damn strong
fock it's funny using it to stick $2 coins on the ground and watch people try pick it up though.
lol.

muhhan

07-10-2006, 07:07 PM

After snapping 3 valve cover bolts, crapping my daks, and ordering up the last lot of bolts in Australia at the time I can definitely vouch for not doing them up tight at all. As a guide, I just got the socket and an extension and did them up with that without trying to go super dk tight. No wrench used.

destrukshn, that's why I try to kick the coins first to make sure that I'm not going to make a dick of myself! ;)

fadz

07-10-2006, 07:50 PM

thats the same way i did it, didnt have problems either ;)

destrukshn

08-10-2006, 02:38 AM

Slow96GSR

08-10-2006, 02:42 PM

I would just grab the hammer and a screw driver and take them up. Then the person is out the coin and the glue and I got 2 bucks for some food. Although here we do $5 bills and a fishing line!!

Dxs

08-10-2006, 03:06 PM

honda bond from honda is about$120

wtf
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Honda-Genuine-Hondabond-HT-pr-571.html
http://www.hondapartsworld.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4321

anyone wanna bring over a load from US
13USD..

i reckon i need this stuff for my sump that seems like it is never gonna seal

fadz

08-10-2006, 03:33 PM

wtf
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Honda-Genuine-Hondabond-HT-pr-571.html
http://www.hondapartsworld.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4321

anyone wanna bring over a load from US
13USD..

i reckon i need this stuff for my sump that seems like it is never gonna seal

lol its $60.:cool:

Dxs

08-10-2006, 04:14 PM

still
would be 30 bucks max from US.. which is still half the price of AU

fadz

08-10-2006, 04:21 PM

$30 US is about $45 australian, seriously *uk this honda bond crap just go get some silicon, costs about $15, what the hell you doin with the honda bond, making love with it or something.

destrukshn

08-10-2006, 04:22 PM

$30 US is about $45 australian, seriously *uk this honda bond crap just go get some silicon, costs about $15, what the hell you doin with the honda bond, making love with it or something.
if you did, you'd be dead
lol.

fadz

08-10-2006, 04:24 PM

if you did, you'd be dead
lol.
heheh:)

muhhan

08-10-2006, 05:26 PM

you go into rick d's on saturday?

Probably not, I got no idea who rick d is?

ECU-MAN

08-10-2006, 07:54 PM

seriously *uk this honda bond crap just go get some silicon, costs about $15, .

silicon will damage your O2 Sensor

Slow96GSR

08-10-2006, 08:05 PM

You all get the quantities you all need straightened out and I'll get a price to you and then I can ship some HB to you all.

destrukshn

08-10-2006, 08:13 PM

rick damelians, some one came in and asked for rocker cover bolts for a eg 1.6l vti
lol

fadz

09-10-2006, 09:20 AM

rick damelians, some one came in and asked for rocker cover bolts for a eg 1.6l vti
lol

that was me lol...al is good, fixed the prob;)

destrukshn

09-10-2006, 09:31 AM

ahh... so that was you!
lol.
i was the asian dude.
lol, where'd you get the bolts from?

fadz

09-10-2006, 10:07 AM

ahh... so that was you!
lol.
i was the asian dude.
lol, where'd you get the bolts from?

haha , wreckers man...
sealer got from um Auto1

Dxs

09-10-2006, 03:11 PM

fadz:
no wonder you have a little red square...

If you even bothered to look a the links i posted it is 13US.. so i estimated 30AUD delivered..

basically i have had problems with my sump sealing.. hondabond is spose to be some hardcore stuff.. if it only costs me 30 bucks and solves my problem then i will be a happy man

destrukshn

09-10-2006, 03:14 PM

why doesn't it seal?
tried buying a new gasket?

Dxs

09-10-2006, 03:16 PM

lets say..
probably 3 honda gaskets, 2 different sealants.. and 2 times back at a mech who ended up using some aircraft sealant.. and the thing still leaks.. only minor but still a leak..

now i have a new gasket and a replacement sump.. so i am gonna get some hondabond too

destrukshn

09-10-2006, 03:31 PM

dude..
that shit is nasty.. just a warning.
you'll have a fockin hard time and probably bend something trying to take it off.

Dxs

09-10-2006, 03:38 PM

i have done it a few times..
i am sure i will be fine :/

destrukshn

09-10-2006, 03:39 PM

your sump is probably focked, that's why it's leaking.
my advice, since you have a replacement sump, put that sump on, without honda bond, see if it leaks first, if it does, then your call if you wanna put honda bond or not.
lol

fadz

09-10-2006, 04:10 PM

lol telln me no wonder why i got the Reds, like i care about having the reds or Greens?
buddy go get urself some silicon sealer from Repco , its a Blue sealant, pretti good i used it wen i resealed my rocker cover, all good no Oil leaks :)
costed me about $20 forget the name, but on the silicon should see a picture for what you can seal it on etc valve cover...hope that helps.

fadz

09-10-2006, 04:11 PM

iv heard bad stories bout that hondabond lol...

destrukshn

09-10-2006, 04:14 PM

you don't have to use sealant on your rocker cover.
i'm not.
no leaks.

fadz

09-10-2006, 04:17 PM

you don't have to use sealant on your rocker cover.
i'm not.
no leaks.

just abit...when you put your new seal on
i put abit on all 4 corners, but yeh you dont have to..its optional really...

fadz

09-10-2006, 04:20 PM

man i stil gota get that broken screw outa one of my threads in the rocker cover, for the time its okay, because its been broken for about 2 years id say as i pulled it str8 off, and only realised it was broken when i took the rocker cover off
strange havnt had any oil leaks, pure luck eh.

Dxs

09-10-2006, 04:37 PM

fadz i have tried 3 different sealants.. all meant to work.. none did..

they work fine on the cam cover gasket though..

fatboyz39

09-10-2006, 04:57 PM

Dxs: Is your sump dented ? Im having similar problems with my sump. Change gasket and added sealent and still leaking. Im going to change sump and see if it stop, which it should cause my one is damaged.

Dxs

09-10-2006, 05:24 PM

there is a minor dent in it.. i am replacing with another 2nd hand one

but i would have thought the gasket should make up for any slight inperfections

i am now using no gasket and like a plasticine gasket
so it should seal no matter what
but it is still ****ed

as stated i am gonna use new gasket replacement sump and hondabond

here is a thread about my probs
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37870&highlight=distorted

(i am gonna be late for work)